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Old 2007-10-30, 20:36   Link #341
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I hate to think what the London Underground and dare I say it, the British Police, would do if students or foreigners tried taking over a train for a party...
Well, since Railways are very important in Britain, I'd assume they'd probably arrest the crazed kids.
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Old 2007-10-31, 00:51   Link #342
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Estimate cost for a one-two week to Japan?

Hello everyone, I was curious as to the ones who were experienced on taking trips to Japan. I plan on going in spring of 2008 with a friend of mine. Neither of us are really fluent in Japanese.

To the ones who went, how much did it cost for your trip in total? I have around $4,000 USD and plan on going on a spending spree when I go. I just wanted to know, about the average cost of a hotel/food/etc and what people spent their money on?

Thanks in advance!
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Old 2007-10-31, 01:01   Link #343
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hmm, I don't know. Make sure the plane is safe. OR I'll have to show you the "Airplane safety lecture form George Carlin You should be ok, for money, around 5000$ I'd guess.
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Old 2007-10-31, 01:18   Link #344
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Spring, in general, is an expensive time to visit Japan.

Your cost will vary greatly depending on when you go, where you stay, and how nicely you treat yourself while you're there. With a bit more detail, advice can be given on how to best spend or save money.

You can certainly go on what you have saved now. You could go on less. But could you do what you wanted to while you're there? We can't tell you that without knowing what you want to do.
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Old 2007-10-31, 01:47   Link #345
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and plan on going on a spending spree when I go.



does the 4000 include plane ticket and housing? better check those prices first with a travel agent if so.
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Old 2007-10-31, 02:18   Link #346
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I was saving up to go in the summer time. I was planning to have around $2,000 at the time. And I was told that wasn't even close to the amount that would be needed. The main thing that screwed my trip over the value of the American dollar continuing to decrease every single day. By spring time it might just be really bad. I was told that I would need around $13,000 dollars for about a two weeks trip to Japan. Especially if I want to go on a spending spree. I also heard that my $2,000 would get me like a hotel room for like a night or two. And that's it. Maybe you'll have better luck.
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Old 2007-10-31, 02:22   Link #347
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Well, since Railways are very important in Britain, I'd assume they'd probably arrest the crazed kids.
And they're not in Japan...? This is news to me. I only take the train around 12 times a week here and that's just getting to and from school (not counting any other train-trips), so I guess you have a point...



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Your cost will vary greatly depending on when you go, where you stay, and how nicely you treat yourself while you're there. With a bit more detail, advice can be given on how to best spend or save money.
As long as you don't want to stay in 5-star hotels and eat at 5-star restaurants each day, you won't have to worry about blowing $1,000 a day. For the cheapest trip, don't spend too much on goodies (I have a hard time with this) and opt to spend nights outside the cities. Go during the off-season, as well. Take the bus/train instead of taxis. Eat at places outside the city.

There's tons of things you can do to save money, really. One thing you'll definitely want to do to save money is to do some *research* on where you want to go.
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Old 2007-10-31, 03:17   Link #348
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My trip to Japan in 2005 costed 4300€ for the plane (+ domestic flight Osaka-Tokyo), hotels, shikansen etc. With food, electronics and souvenirs it was >5000€.

For a normal hotel you'll pay around 10.000 to 30.000 yen per night.
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Old 2007-10-31, 04:21   Link #349
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To the ones who went, how much did it cost for your trip in total? I have around $4,000 USD and plan on going on a spending spree when I go. I just wanted to know, about the average cost of a hotel/food/etc and what people spent their money on?
My 11-day trip earlier this year cost a grand total of around S$3,000 (approx. US$2,060), but I did it in February, which is slightly before the usual tourist season. That total includes plane tickets, accomodation and a 7-day rail JR pass, so yes, I think US$4,000 would seem enough.

But then again, I was travelling backpacker style and hardly bought any souvenirs (a handful of Ghibli merchandise was all I got), so like what the others have said, it really depends on what you intend to do.
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Old 2007-10-31, 05:14   Link #350
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I honestly just want to go sight seeing, I don't really mind not staying in a fancy hotel or anything. Just a place to sleep and get by. Truthfully? I probably will blow a majority of the money I bring on Eroge games (Because buying them imported is like cutting off my own arm.)

I was hoping for a good guestimate on things like place to stay/eat. I have a small frame and eat about a meal or two a day (Weird metabolism) so yeah. If 2,000 ish can cover airplane fees, a cheap inexpensive place to stay at for two weeks and a couple of bites a day. I should be fine, but I have months to save before the actual trip.

I have a friend who is also coming, so is it unusual to just rent one room? If it saves on the cost. Thanks for the replies, gives me a general idea on the cost of an average trip.

If you had to give a somewhat chart for it.. so it would be

Bare minimum

3000$ USD?

5000$ USD to cover the spending spree

5000$+ For a comfort level?
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Old 2007-10-31, 05:35   Link #351
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Well, since Railways are very important in Britain, I'd assume they'd probably arrest the crazed kids.
Yeah that's pretty much it. Do it over here the police will arrest you. So they don't get arrested over in Japan? Fine those bastards and lock em for a few weeks imho.


I live in a tolerant country, but we don't like stupid shit.

There is a small dislike towards tourists when they buy per example mushrooms without knowing how to properly take it in. Which can lead to all sort off bullcrap and then the country where that tourist is from gets mad at us? How about teaching your citizens some logic. >.> <.<
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Old 2007-10-31, 12:59   Link #352
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And they're not in Japan...? This is news to me. I only take the train around 12 times a week here and that's just getting to and from school (not counting any other train-trips), so I guess you have a point...


D'oh!! I looked up "Japanese Railway History" And it appears as though, it is very important in Japan, too. Which is good. Plus, I think the railway trains were shown (quickly) in an episode of Lucky Star!
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Old 2007-10-31, 13:08   Link #353
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D'oh!! I looked up "Japanese Railway History" And it appears as though, it is very important in Japan, too. Which is good. Plus, I think the railway trains were shown (quickly) in an episode of Lucky Star!
They used the trains a few times on Lucky Star...
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Old 2007-10-31, 13:21   Link #354
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Basically, you don't *need* a car in Japan. The train/bus/ferry system and bike pretty much blankets the country. Around Tokyo, it is absolutely essential for moving the population. And the "great" thing is you can actually get relatively drunk and almost certainly get home safely unlike car-dependent parts of America.
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Old 2007-10-31, 20:15   Link #355
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Basically, you don't *need* a car in Japan. The train/bus/ferry system and bike pretty much blankets the country. Around Tokyo, it is absolutely essential for moving the population. And the "great" thing is you can actually get relatively drunk and almost certainly get home safely unlike car-dependent parts of America.
Well, this is true for most Japanese that lives in the cities.
However, there are plenty of people living in the inaka (countryside) areas that does *need* cars to live. Believe it or not, there are still areas where it's several hours walk to the nearest train station, and the bus comes only twice a day.
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Old 2007-11-01, 03:20   Link #356
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I honestly just want to go sight seeing, I don't really mind not staying in a fancy hotel or anything. Just a place to sleep and get by.

I was hoping for a good guestimate on things like place to stay/eat. I have a small frame and eat about a meal or two a day (Weird metabolism) so yeah. If 2,000 ish can cover airplane fees, a cheap inexpensive place to stay at for two weeks and a couple of bites a day. I should be fine, but I have months to save before the actual trip.
These are my slightly outdated guesstimates:

1. One single room in budget ryokan: from JPY 6,000 to 9,000 per night. (These are the ones with shared baths. I recommend you try -- don't be shy! It's part of the holiday experience.)

2. One budget meal: from JPY 350 to 1,500 (the cheapest places to eat in Tokyo, surprisingly enough, are in the major train stations -- go where the local salarymen eat.)

3. One adult 7-day JR Pass: JPY 28,300 (It's only really worth it if you're planning to ride the Shinkansen from Tokyo to Osaka and back.)

4. One day of mass rapid public transport [in Tokyo]: around JPY 1,500 (I found public transportation to be quite expensive actually. Maybe I did something wrong.)

On average, I was getting by on around JPY 7,000 (~US$61) a day, not including accomodation. This does not include shopping -- I reckon I spent around JPY 16,000 (~US$140) on souvenirs and stuff. Most importantly, I wasn't out partying till the wee hours of the night -- now that would really cost you.

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Truthfully? I probably will blow a majority of the money I bring on Eroge games (Because buying them imported is like cutting off my own arm.)
I have no idea how much that would cost. I only droped by to Akihabara to check out all the "good" stuff, but I didn't check the prices.
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Old 2007-11-01, 03:23   Link #357
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So guys, what about the value of the American dollar decreasing? If I want to go in summer, is this going to be a huge problem?
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Old 2007-11-01, 04:12   Link #358
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The dollar goes up and down against the yen a little bit <shrug> but though the Canadian dollar vs the US dollar is the worst its been in 40-something years (!!! 94 cents to the dollar, omfg!!!)
.... the yen versus the dollar is relatively static.

Usually you get around 120yen per dollar plus or minus about 10%. --- today it was 115 yen/dollar. I've seen it as low as 107 and as high as 125. Not a lot of difference, eh? Through some fantastic manipulations and shady card dealing the japanese yen doesn't vary much against the dollar ..... so far. You're probably taking little risk in planning ahead.

If foreign investors start selling dollars, dumping bonds, or otherwise bailing on the US play money structures ... things may get toasty.

Like other posters note, if you're the type who travels to "hobnob with the locals" like me (no 5-star hotel thank you give me the family-run ryoko and tips on their favorite noodle shops and local stores) -- you can get away as cheap or cheaper than traveling in the US ($50-$150/day).

Use this site for keeping tabs on currency exchange, it updates once a minute or so: http://www.xe.com/
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Old 2007-11-01, 04:19   Link #359
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3. One adult 7-day JR Pass: JPY 28,300 (It's only really worth it if you're planning to ride the Shinkansen from Tokyo to Osaka and back.)
What can you take with a JR Pass? The Shinkansen? Local trains?
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What can you take with a JR Pass? The Shinkansen? Local trains?
Pretty much all JR group operated trains, with the distinct exception of the Nozomi.

Need to remember it won't let you on local privately operated lines though, which you may need to use to get to some more out of the way places. When I was there I spent some time south of Mishima, which required travel on the Sunzu Line. Had to pay for each journey there as the company isn't related JR East. Wasn't expensive at all compared to the UK prices though, so I didn't mind. For me the JR pass paid for itself on the Shinkansen, as TinyRedLeaf suggested. I don't think I moved around enough to make it really good value, but it was worth it for the simplicity/speed alone (no queue for tickets, etc.).
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