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Old 2013-06-01, 19:34   Link #1161
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Well, actually sakura peaked at the end of March this year. The two prime times in most people's eyes to view nature are sakura and the fall color (koyo) season, but generally speaking, any time in Spring or Autumn is going to be the best time if you want to see nature (unless you're a snow buff). It seems to me that by April Tokyo and Kyoto are pretty well covered in greenery, so even after the sakura are gone if you're just looking for verdant April is still a pretty good choice.
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Old 2013-06-01, 21:26   Link #1162
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Well, actually sakura peaked at the end of March this year. The two prime times in most people's eyes to view nature are sakura and the fall color (koyo) season, but generally speaking, any time in Spring or Autumn is going to be the best time if you want to see nature (unless you're a snow buff). It seems to me that by April Tokyo and Kyoto are pretty well covered in greenery, so even after the sakura are gone if you're just looking for verdant April is still a pretty good choice.
Global warming! *shakes fist* Thanks, good to know. I wouldn't want to try to make it for sakura, only to miss it and end up with nothing.
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Old 2013-06-01, 21:37   Link #1163
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It happened to a lot of people this year, sad to say. Truth is, timing a trip around sakura or koyo is always risky - they can be early or late (though not often the latter recently). As a backup, there are mountain areas around both Tokyo and Kyoto that can be visited in a day trip, and as you climb in altitude the peak sakura dates get later and the koyo dates get earlier.

The best thing is really to come in the spring or fall (not Golden Week, though) because if nothing else, that's when you're likely to have the best weather for spending time outdoors.
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Old 2013-06-02, 13:07   Link #1164
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One more question: is September as bad for typhoons as some searching seems to indicate? (I had thoughts of visiting the Tokyo Game Show before deciding that was probably not worth it due to language barrier.)
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Old 2013-06-02, 19:25   Link #1165
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August and September are peak times for typhoons, yes, but they're a random element when planning travel. Some seasons have many, some almost none. They hit, two days or so are obscenely terrible, then it's clear as a bell and quiet. The odds of one hitting on any given day are slim, but during those months it's always possible.
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Old 2013-06-02, 20:15   Link #1166
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People in the know: hanami is of course very nice, but what about the rest of nature in early April (Tokyo, Kyoto areas)? I imagine some of the more common places to see (parks, temples, etc.) might look quite nice (or better?) with more greenery later in the year. Do you have to trade one for the other?
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Well, actually sakura peaked at the end of March this year. The two prime times in most people's eyes to view nature are sakura and the fall color (koyo) season, but generally speaking, any time in Spring or Autumn is going to be the best time if you want to see nature (unless you're a snow buff). It seems to me that by April Tokyo and Kyoto are pretty well covered in greenery, so even after the sakura are gone if you're just looking for verdant April is still a pretty good choice.
Tokyo has indeed a lot of parks, Kyoto not so much, unless you count in the surrounding hills.

For Sakura viewing there is indeed a narrow window of two weeks around the end of March and/or beginning of April. The Meteorological Agency is able to predict it accurately a month earlier, so planning a trip for that is usually hard.

For reference, these two photos (Fukuaka/Kumamoto) were taken the last days of the sakura viewing perdiod...



While these three (Matsue, Okayama, Hiroshima) were taken a week after it passed...



On the other hand, the autumn colors are much more impressive and last longer (October/November), most parks and gardens, as well as large shrines, are also designed for them not Sakura.

Again for reference here is how Shiba Park looked in early December...



... and Yoyogi, same period, and 3-4 weeks after the autumn colors have theoretically died out:





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One more question: is September as bad for typhoons as some searching seems to indicate? (I had thoughts of visiting the Tokyo Game Show before deciding that was probably not worth it due to language barrier.)
June to September is very warm and humid. Typhoons are not a big deal unless you are very unlucky and encounter one, and even then it will waste only one at worse two days.

Now on to the language barrier, unless you want to visit the expo for professional reasons, you wouldn't talk to the exhibitors much (if at all) anyway; plus a lot know at least a little english, if you get confused or need assistance.
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Old 2013-06-02, 22:10   Link #1167
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Ill be going for Koyo at the end of November (23-Dec1st). I am hoping to hit the peak. I even had trouble getting a room more than 7 months in advance in Kyoto.
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Old 2013-06-03, 07:43   Link #1168
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Actually Kyoto has many wonderful places to see Sakura - Philosopher's Path was probably the most beautiful I saw anywhere in Japan, and I was lucky enough to be here for the full season in 2011 (three weeks after the quake).

As for predictions, yeah, the meteorological agency is always issuing and updating them, but it's wrong to see a month out they're necessarily accurate. We had a very warm spell in mid-March this year and they peaked about a full week before they were predicted to only a month out.
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Old 2013-06-03, 08:26   Link #1169
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I suppose if people want to be sure to see Sakura their best bet is to get a 2 month vacation from March to April (if only)

I was lucky to see some in Tokyo in March back in 2007 (I believe) in Ueno Park (there was nothing in Kyoto at the time I went)

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Anyways it was either the tail end or tail beginning of them but I don't remember
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Old 2013-06-03, 08:51   Link #1170
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Nice pics. Koyo is thankfully a little easier to get the timing right - it lasts longer, anyway.
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Old 2013-06-03, 12:49   Link #1171
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Actually Kyoto has many wonderful places to see Sakura - Philosopher's Path was probably the most beautiful I saw anywhere in Japan, and I was lucky enough to be here for the full season in 2011 (three weeks after the quake).
Indeed, it should be really impressive, nevertheless, the castles of Kyushu, Chugoku and Shikoku are way better to experience, less crowded and more authentic then then destinations popular with foreigners.

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As for predictions, yeah, the meteorological agency is always issuing and updating them, but it's wrong to see a month out they're necessarily accurate. We had a very warm spell in mid-March this year and they peaked about a full week before they were predicted to only a month out.
Nevertheless, it's the best bet for planning.

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I suppose if people want to be sure to see Sakura their best bet is to get a 2 month vacation from March to April (if only)
That's what my brother had to do, and even that was not enough
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Old 2013-06-03, 16:59   Link #1172
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Yeah, I don't think I can swing two months. Thanks for the info and pics, everyone. It may be even harder to choose a time now but at least I have a better idea!
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Old 2013-06-04, 07:02   Link #1173
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Hey I'm going to Osaka and Kyoto about 2 weeks later, if you don't mind, would you recommend me the place to go to?
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Old 2013-06-04, 07:57   Link #1174
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Osaka -> try random bars in badmouthed neighborhoods (applies to Kobe too, generally wherever there is a lot of Yakuza), owners and clients are very friendly, unlike touristic joints in Roppongi and Shinjuku manifactured to please Chinese, American and German businessmen... otherwise Osaka sucks, it's just another big city without history, like NYC, LA, etc.

Kyoto -> Fushimi Inari Taisha >>> Ginkakuji > Kinkakuji > Nijojo >>> Heian Shrine (old imperial palace reconstruction turned into a shrine) > walk along Higashi and Arashi mountain temples > Toei studio (if you fancy old chambara films)

Nearby... Nara (cool with n00bs), Hiroshima/Miyajima (popular with Anglo-saxons and English teachers that want to fake some knowledge of Japanese culture and history), try out a sleep-over at either Koya or Hiei monastery complexes, if lucky you will be saved from American Buddhist creeps, and have a local monk that will narrate syncretic legends... historically though Himeji (if restoration is complete, otherwise try Hikone for another original flatland castle) and Bitchu Matsuyama hilltop castle at Takahashi village (if you are up to walking a lot) are much more important, as well as the grand shrines of Ise (devoted to Amaterasu and her chickens) and Izumo (devoted to Okuni-something) (both 3-6 hours away)... if you can speak basic Japanese and can stand slower transportation (still faster then the fastest in Europe and light speed for the Americans), definitely visit Shikoku in summer!
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Old 2013-06-04, 08:38   Link #1175
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otherwise Osaka sucks, it's just another big city without history, like NYC, LA, etc.
Complete and utter BS.
We have more history than NYC and LA and Chicago COMBINED.

City without history? OSAKA? Are you *!)$ing kidding me. The Naniwa legacy goes back centuries upon centuries.

You must be one of them Osaka-hating easterners, go back to yer fancy clothes and choke on em!
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Old 2013-06-04, 08:52   Link #1176
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Hey I'm going to Osaka and Kyoto about 2 weeks later, if you don't mind, would you recommend me the place to go to?
Can you be a little bit more specific about your interests? That's like saying "I like food. What do you recommend I eat?"

I like Osaka and Kyoto, though they could hardly be more different. The fact that they're only 14 minutes apart on the Shinkansen makes that fact especially delightful. Kobe is an interesting place too, often overlooked.
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Complete and utter BS.
We have more history than NYC and LA and Chicago COMBINED.

City without history? OSAKA? Are you *!)$ing kidding me. The Naniwa legacy goes back centuries upon centuries.

You must be one of them Osaka-hating easterners, go back to yer fancy clothes and choke on em!
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Chill out! if anything, I am a Kyushu lover... and I was exaggerating there about Osaka's history, of course any place in the world has a richer history then Chicago, NYC and LA, and I very much enjoy Osaka, a lot more then Kyoto in fact... BUT not for sight-seeing

PS: I also don't wear fancy clothes
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Old 2013-06-04, 09:13   Link #1178
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Chill out! if anything, I am a Kyushu lover... and I was exaggerating there about Osaka's history, of course any place in the world has a richer history then Chicago, NYC and LA, and I very much enjoy Osaka, a lot more then Kyoto in fact... BUT not for sight-seeing

PS: I also don't wear fancy clothes
WE HAZ FOOD GOOD FOOD.
And they don't cost arm, leg, and a kidney like dem fancy snobby Kyotonians!

Well, and a freakin' castle of former ruler of Japan in smack middle of the city.
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Old 2013-06-04, 09:46   Link #1179
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I thought Osaka is the centre of Yakuza activities.

Which means I can find pink salons manned by loli JS and JK! Hell yeah!
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Old 2013-06-04, 10:07   Link #1180
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as well as the grand shrines of Ise (devoted to Amaterasu and her chickens) and Izumo (devoted to Okuni-something) (both 3-6 hours away)... if you can speak basic Japanese and can stand slower transportation (still faster then the fastest in Europe and light speed for the Americans), definitely visit Shikoku in summer!
Speaking of Izumo....that place should be a must go for anyone interested in Shinto.

Much much better than Ise
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