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Old 2003-11-23, 16:21   Link #21
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That Queen Millenia, looks totally like Galaxy Express 999 and Starzingers...
BTW, Starzinger ever licensed?
I'm not familiar with Starzingers, but Queen Millennia looks like Galaxy Express 999 because both were created by Leiji Matsumoto. This is why the blonde from Queen Millennia (Yaoi) looks like the blonde from GE999 (Maetel).

BTW, Queen Millennia was shown on american TV in the 80's, when some genius combined 2 different series of Matsumoto Creations (Space Pirate Captain Harlock and Queen Millennia) to show it on american TV as Captain Harlock and the Queen of a Thousand Years.


8 episodes of Queen Millennia (or The Millennial Queen) were fansubbed on tape by Garasu no Bara Productions (http://www.destinyofroses.org/glass/Projects.html). You can see poor quality .rm video files of it if you have a streamload account asking at Queen Millennia Distribution Page (http://go.to/queenmillennia)
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Old 2003-11-23, 16:21   Link #22
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Hey, Tonde Buurin looks like a winner! :P

Heck, a lot of those look interesting just from the pic.

Mama is a 4th Grader? WTF!
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Old 2003-11-23, 18:18   Link #23
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Now all we have to do is wait for a fansub group to do these shows. Sadly I think it is very unilikely that they will ever get subbed.

Why is is that everyone wants to be the latest naruto subber? Wouldn't it be better to be know as the group that subbed the awesome old school series?
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Old 2003-11-23, 18:45   Link #24
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Hey, Tonde Buurin looks like a winner! :P

Heck, a lot of those look interesting just from the pic.
Heh, saw that series dubbed on a Polan channel...
Really funny, to bad I didn't understand Polan...
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Old 2003-11-23, 18:54   Link #25
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Now all we have to do is wait for a fansub group to do these shows. Sadly I think it is very unilikely that they will ever get subbed.

Why is is that everyone wants to be the latest naruto subber? Wouldn't it be better to be know as the group that subbed the awesome old school series?
Naruto gets 50000 downloads.... sadly, people care more about being most downloaded than actually doing it right.
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Old 2003-11-23, 21:21   Link #26
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There's that, and the availability of getting the raw. Getting a naruto raw is ridiculously easy as opposed to finding an obscure 10 year old anime :P. Perhaps if someone had the raws a group may consider it, but otherwise it's too much of a hassle.
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Old 2003-11-23, 22:01   Link #27
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There's that, and the availability of getting the raw. Getting a naruto raw is ridiculously easy as opposed to finding an obscure 10 year old anime :P. Perhaps if someone had the raws a group may consider it, but otherwise it's too much of a hassle.
Raw availability isn't really a issue unless there was only VHS release for the show. LD/DVD rips are readily available on P2P networks although they take more time to obtain.

Vanity is actually the problem here. Many fansub groups are not actually promoting anime now. They are doing it for fame. Thus the naruto subbing.
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Old 2003-11-23, 23:14   Link #28
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Raw availability isn't really a issue unless there was only VHS release for the show. LD/DVD rips are readily available on P2P networks although they take more time to obtain.

Vanity is actually the problem here. Many fansub groups are not actually promoting anime now. They are doing it for fame. Thus the naruto subbing.
It was the same way with Love Hina. It's sad. I hope nobody else starts subbing OVA3, because 1 is enough, 2 is a crowd, 3 is too many, 4 would be overkill. :P
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Old 2003-11-23, 23:24   Link #29
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Raw availability isn't really a issue unless there was only VHS release for the show. LD/DVD rips are readily available on P2P networks although they take more time to obtain.

Vanity is actually the problem here. Many fansub groups are not actually promoting anime now. They are doing it for fame. Thus the naruto subbing.

Well... subbers usually prefer series that have easily obtainable raws and...

Availability of raw = stingyness of person with medium x availability of medium x age of medium x interest in medium by capturers (for tv shows)....

Examples
Naruto: a) lots of people capture it b) its openly shared c) its brand new d) vanity + popularity in japan = mass subbing

Atashinchi: a) not many capture it b) not very widely shared, lots of trading required c) brand new, but not widely captured d) takes a lot of work to get raw... = nobody subs it
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Old 2003-11-23, 23:35   Link #30
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I just like to state that L-E has plans to release subbed eps of the original Galaxy Express 999 TV series after Galaxy Railways is done (assuming it ends at a reasonable episode.)

We've already begun work on it and I own the DVDs

-Tofu

But we're not gonna tack on any more projects until we finish some of the current ones :P
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Old 2003-11-23, 23:36   Link #31
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Atashinchi: a) not many capture it b) not very widely shared, lots of trading required c) brand new, but not widely captured d) takes a lot of work to get raw... = nobody subs it
It does require extra effort to acquire raw but I thought that's why we need fansubbers because they are willing to do extra to promote anime.

But maybe that's just my utopian thought.

IMO, japanese people spent more time on non-trading p2p network now. Recently I was helping a group obtaining some old LD rips of a 10 years old show and I had pretty good results on winny which requires absolute zero trading (well, you can't trade with winny anyways).
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Old 2003-11-23, 23:39   Link #32
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I just like to state that L-E has plans to release subbed eps of the original Galaxy Express 999 TV series after Galaxy Railways is done (assuming it ends at a reasonable episode.)

We've already begun work on it and I own the DVDs

-Tofu

But we're not gonna tack on any more projects until we finish some of the current ones :P
That's really cool. I always wanted to watch GE999 but didn't get the chance to when I was a kid. I'm grateful that the folks at L-E are willing to sub some old school anime that will never see the light in US. Thanks again for your efforts!
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Old 2003-11-24, 00:05   Link #33
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I know there is a great group working on Dream Hunter Rem actually.


Personally, I liked what I saw of Tonde Buurin. Its a pretty interesting show. A real twist on a mahou shoujo I wish someone would pick it up. Unfortently, Im too tapped out on resources to get it myself.
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Old 2003-11-24, 00:26   Link #34
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I have subs of Tonde Buurin :X

-Tofu
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Old 2003-11-24, 00:40   Link #35
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I used to have some RM rips of Tonde Buurin fansubs (I cant find them now if I do have them). Damn, I kinda miss them.

Something I would like to see fansubbed is Warau Salesman. I would see to fansubbing it myself if I could find the rest of the raws. I got LDs 2-3 as random purchases but have never managed to find anymore Damn, I just get a kick out of watching the raw eps alone. Oh, and also the Alice in Wonderland anime.
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Old 2003-11-24, 01:04   Link #36
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It does require extra effort to acquire raw but I thought that's why we need fansubbers because they are willing to do extra to promote anime.

But maybe that's just my utopian thought.
Not everything is easily available, it took an arm and a leg to get all of the kogepan raws.

On topic: shows i want to see subbed:
1.shin megami tensei devil children (hope i got that name right) (Devil shin chi, the original series with fairy fore op/ed)

2. sazae-san, SOMEONE DO IT DAMNIT!!!

3. atashinchi (someone needs to continue this)

ill add more later...
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Old 2003-11-24, 01:39   Link #37
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Originally Posted by Tofusensei
I just like to state that L-E has plans to release subbed eps of the original Galaxy Express 999 TV series after Galaxy Railways is done (assuming it ends at a reasonable episode.)

We've already begun work on it and I own the DVDs

-Tofu

But we're not gonna tack on any more projects until we finish some of the current ones :P
w00t. XD L-E is my favorite fansubbing group~ ^-^ I can't wait. L-E does so many great series.

I would like to see any old-school stuff fansubbed.~ I've always been a fan of older anime for some reason. xD I'm really tired of like 5 million groups all focusing on one series though. It's kind of ridiculous.. .:shrugs:. If I ever got into fansubbing, I'd sub some of the less popular stuff. I seem to always like a lot of the less popular stuff too. ^^; I actually tend to avoid anime that have so many groups doing them.
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Old 2003-11-24, 01:41   Link #38
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Hm.. I remember watching an episode or two of Tonde Buurin a long time ago. I think the episodes were raw though. ^^; Bad quality RM files. lol. Yeah. It looked like a fun series though. I'd like to see it subbed.
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Old 2003-11-24, 09:26   Link #39
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Well, I'd particularly like to push Ashita no Joe, Ashita no Joe 2, and A Dog of Flanders(TV series, not the movie). Everything else I can think of has already been said.
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Old 2003-11-24, 09:51   Link #40
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Why the hell no one suggest Mysterious Cities of Gold? It's a good anime, and it was a mass sucess on Europe back in the late 80's...

Any group interrerested in subbing this, contact me, since I have the script translated up to episode 5
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