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Old 2012-03-02, 12:10   Link #3301
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HOLY SH*T

Just cleared through Tenshi no Hane wo Fumanai de, Sun route. Everything's fine then, I even contemplate on my life a bit after clearing that (very beautiful story). Until...


I got into the moon route.

Holy hell what is this, is this really the same game!?

Though Shumon Yuu did have a history of "things appearing not as they were", I never felt like this before (or perhaps I did in ItsuSora, but it's such a long time ago I forgot), that feeling of when you're so full of happiness but suddenly smashed right through the bottom of hell...

The initial shock was so much, but as I continue, I can vaguely sense the moral of this story as I play through more of the Moon route(I picked Ikoi).. Now to try and actually reach the endings...
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Old 2012-03-02, 13:03   Link #3302
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Just an FYI that I moved the Kamidori conversation to its own thread, as I figure there'll be enough interest with the patch being out.
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Old 2012-03-02, 14:25   Link #3303
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Even though I will probably stay far, far away from it due to my earlier mentioned preferance, how is the drama in the individual routes or rather how fast will it be resolved? I know from a spoiler review that the drama seems on the heavier or darker side + the CGs had a few images to underline it (more or less). Just being curious.
Depends on the route, really. But they mostly center around an ongoing conflict which gets resolved at the end of the route by Yuuji using rather extraordinary means to save the girls either from themselves or from danger brought upon them by others. But yeah, it goes beyond the territory of High-School love drama.

Anyway, started reading Hatsuyuki Sakura. Not sure what to expect but Sakura is adorable. And the protag seems to be an alcoholic.
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Old 2012-03-03, 01:27   Link #3304
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Getchu announced the result of PC game award yesterday.
http://www.getchu.com/pc/2011_g_ranking/
White Album 2 won almost every section including best game overall.

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Old 2012-03-03, 03:08   Link #3305
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Phew, finished Yuuka's route in Sakura Strasse. As a slight surprise her route wasn't as horrible as I thought because at least the relationship drama about non-blood related siblings progressed the ususal way. The good: Her ending was done nicely thanks to Marie. The bad: Too frequently-occuring drama, her character was portrayed too extreme (At first as the "violent" tsundere-onee-sama and post-confession as a vulnerable person who tried to escape from her own drama).

Be it as it may, Marie was probably the best character in the Visual Novel even though her route suffered horribly from all the seemingly non-stopping drama. She did a lovely job as a supporting type in the other routes and was cute and adorable throughout there.
Furthermore, the subtitle of "A love story in Sakura Strasse" fits only for the ending + the short post-drama scenes before the "the end" appears in general. Pallet's naming sense was a bit strange regarding Lulli. I know at least that Marie is a german witch, but Lulli , her "familar", as in the name itself doesn't really sound german . Nontheless, kudos for bringing german elements in it
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Old 2012-03-03, 05:43   Link #3306
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Uh...OK...

With all that tension I went through, Ikoi ending felt a little lacking. A lot of things felt like a cop out, or simply hand waved. I suppose I'd still have to go through the other routes to have the whole picture. ふえ~
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Old 2012-03-05, 20:24   Link #3307
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OK, I just finished the entirety of Tenshi no Hane wo Fumanaide.

As expected, more routes become available as I complete one, and since these routes are in the Moon route, you could say that the Sun route really is just a "prologue" of things to come.

To say the least, it was mind boggling. There are lots of meanings; hidden and even more hidden; in most of the route. But at the last true route, everything overwhelmingly came together at once.

Shumon Yuu is indeed somewhat of a folklore specialist (aside from being a cunning linguist who's very very good at Japanese wordplay). He once made a story based on Norse myth in ItsuSora (and I suppose Japanese folklore in the AsaIro, I'd have to check that out soon). And for this game, he based a lot of story elements on the tales in Christianity. Not Christianity itself, but stories around it. God, Angels, Demons, Humans, Sins, Witchcraft, Miracle,etc etc. In the end, though indeed it came out as a very good story, it also left me contemplating about a lot of thing. And indeed that is one of the moral of this story: to think and act for yourself.

Regarding character development, I'd say that most of the characters have been explored quite decently. Everyone had their moments, and I managed to actually care about the main 7 characters (I even left my Crusader Kings II to finish this game lol). If I have to name one my favorite though, I'd say Hanene is the one.

Also, I guess I pretty much confirmed that Yuu has a thing about hax characters. Pretty much everyone is hax in their own way, and they were implemented in the story in such a way that they didn't really seem out of place.

And now while my switch is still on, I'll try to finish AsaIro as well.
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Old 2012-03-05, 21:22   Link #3308
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Huh?

Dies Irae getting a sudden popularity boost on VNDB? That's strange....would have thought the gore and Masada-style characters and plot would turn off most of the general audience...
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Old 2012-03-06, 04:12   Link #3309
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Finished Rin's route in Amesarasa and it was quite lovely in general. I will probably leave it like this with only her second ending done as it seems to be the good one . I liked it how Haruichi's "supernatural" aspect was connected to Rin's (whole) existance, though it was a bit strange :3.
Mitsuha's route was okay. The way to her two different endings were somewhat similar (except that one route left out a h-scene due to the prior events).
In general: Most of the everyday-dialogues seem to be quite simplistic (in terms of amount of words used).
I think I'll try Yuki's next
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Old 2012-03-07, 21:44   Link #3310
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After finishing every story in Hatsuyuki Sakura i can say one thing

Pure Rage!!!!!

One of my first WTH moments came at the end of the (fixed in the first playthough) regular Sakura route.
Spoiler for spoiler:


My actual rage comes from the true route: Graduation
I really liked it from the beginning till the climax . It had a nice mixup of comedy, lot's of deredere moments and drama at the end. But both endings of that route left me with a really bitter taste.

In fact i didn't really like all of the endings.
Spoiler for spoiler:


However the story was overall ok. Sometimes they felt a little dragged and every story became sometimes a little overdramatic for me at the end.
The plot about ghosts could have been used better for the plot and it was pretty much only served to add drama to the end of the routes.

I liked the stories in this order.

Sakura> Aya > Shirokuma> Nozomu > Azuma
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The music was in my opinion quite good. Not just the opening and ending songs, but the BGM's were nicely varied and when it was quite fitting for the mood/atmosphere when it was used. Especially the tracks "Freak of Nature: start" and "Ghost parade"

As for the seiyuu's, it was a mixed bag for me. Some did really great, while most of them were pretty bad in my opinion.
Especially Shimizu Ai and Fuuri Samoto did a really good job with Sakura and Aya.
I didn't really like kadowaki Mai's role as Nozomu, because i am probably not used to her voicing characters that way. The other female seiyuu's besides Yoshida Airi (voicing Megumi and other side characters and a ghost)were mostly ok but i disliked most male seiyuu's in this one. One problem for me (because i really like to listen VN's as well) was that every seiyuu were also voicing random students or other people. Even the more important side characters in certain routes were voiced in pretty much the same way (hardly any attempt of trying to change thier voice) as they did with the regular characters.

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Old 2012-03-07, 23:31   Link #3311
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Spoiler for Regarding Hatsuyuki Sakura's endings spoilers (with comparison to past SagaPlanets games):
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Old 2012-03-07, 23:47   Link #3312
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Spoiler for Hatsuyuki Sakura w/ comparison to other Saga Planet games:


I need to find a lighter VN after this one.

Edit: maybe i should try Lover Able and it's fandisc dousei

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Old 2012-03-08, 00:14   Link #3313
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Btw, I fiddled around and found out that Tenshi no Hane's male protagonist was voiced by Suzuta Miyako, who did Kudo from LB...
I mean sure, the protagonist is a trap, but he can be prettyvery manly at times (his scream/shout in particular), to think that the voice behind him used to go all wafuu......


OK, so I tried going back to Kitto sumiwataru asairo yori mo, though I have forgotten most of the story, so I did a quick reread through the earlier parts.

Sure enough, there is a heavy Japanese myth influence throughout, with one which imo is particularly interesting (and often mentioned) being "kotodama" and the "demon" who had it. Also, I don't really see the concept of "character routes" here and sure enough, I asked a friend who finished this long ago and he said that this is a "Hiyo-ge" (Hiyo is the main heroine). There are a few choices, but the impact didn't seem too important (yet, at least).
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Old 2012-03-08, 01:01   Link #3314
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I need to find a lighter VN after this one.

Edit: maybe i should try Lover Able and it's fandisc dousei
Heh - I'd venture to say that it's a perfectly good antidote in this case. Fun, light-hearted, and full of over-the-top romance. It's a little less story-driven than Mashiro-iro Symphony (really all about the characters), but is about on that level in terms of the sugary-sweetness. So yeah -- sounds like a good recommendation to me!
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Old 2012-03-08, 01:29   Link #3315
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Hyl, as someone who finished that Sagaplanets game, in your opinion was it overall good? I did not want to give Saga Planets another shot as their last offering (gold stars) had none of the things I liked about Natsuyume Nagisa. When I saw they had a new game, I was of course pessimistic, but I could change my mind about buying it if it made a good impression
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Old 2012-03-08, 04:04   Link #3316
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It depends on what you want. Like i have posted earlier, i haven't played Natsuyume Nagisa, so i can't compare Hatsuyuki Sakura with it. Overall i liked Hatsuyuki Sakura alot. I enjoyed it more than the last few VN's that i have read in the last few months.
The art and characters were nice, it had lot of good mix of elements from comedy, drama,suspense, slice of life and cute romantic moments. The atmosphere and the music that accomponies it are also very good in my opinion.
The routes are at the beginning quite lighthearted but get darker (some more than others) at the end. But what i didn't like about the routes was the somewhat forced drama at the end of each one.
The endings themselves are not that bad if you can accept
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If you are not sure, you can download the trial first. I think it goes up to the prologue and it should give you either a good or bad impression of the game.

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Old 2012-03-08, 05:08   Link #3317
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@Hatsuyuki Sakura in general:
Spoiler for various:


As for the sound track: I loved freak of nature: start personally.
@hyl: Lover Able is a great choice for light-hearted and sweet romance. The girls have many "HNGHHH!!!" moments and the humour was quite good for my (poor) taste
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Old 2012-03-08, 05:12   Link #3318
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Has anyone here played 失われた未来を求めて (In Search of Lost Future)?

I played it for five minutes before realizing I was grossly under prepared to try it with my current Japanese. I quite enjoyed the art work and the introduction to Airi caught my attention pretty quickly!

Just wanting to hear some thoughts if people thought it was a good VN?
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Old 2012-03-08, 05:32   Link #3319
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Has anyone here played 失われた未来を求めて (In Search of Lost Future)?

I played it for five minutes before realizing I was grossly under prepared to try it with my current Japanese. I quite enjoyed the art work and the introduction to Airi caught my attention pretty quickly!

Just wanting to hear some thoughts if people thought it was a good VN?
The VN liked to be confusing at some points (at least with subpar jp. knowledge like I have). The VN has the mean concept of letting you play first through the bad ending of each girl before you get the option to choose the alternate/good ending. In that way, the bad ending(s) focus more on the actual background storyline of the VN. It also has a forced playing order in terms of which route to complete first.

Was it good? If you like the characters, it was decent enough. It has quite a few time travel moments, which also servers as one of the sub-themes I think. But, that part is mainly portayed in the latter half of each route more or less "subtle".
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Old 2012-03-08, 05:34   Link #3320
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Used up office bandwidth to see trial, eh it doesn't ring anything for me. Music's good, atmosphere reminds me of something like Hoshizoria (or Natsuyume) but after finishing with a light CTRL-dozer speed, there wasn't anything that stood out as must-read-to-finish-so-buy-it-now.

So I decided to read the spoilers. Well, on that score hyl, regarding the "not -redacted- between heroine and protagonist thing"? It happened in natsuyume, in a way, so it's not really that new. And I personally didn't mind that element (some '07 VNs had that device a LOT in their endings), but I think I'll hold off because of what I've read from the trial.

I guess yuzusoft's really is the only thing next on my go-to list...
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