World of WarCraft or FFXI

[Archuka]

I had the same dilemma last summer: WoW or FFXI... In the end I chose FFXI and I don't regret it at all. As for the fucked up economy... appearantly it's some server to server issue.

Actually, inflation is horrible on all servers.

Final Fantasy has maybe some older graphics but I didn't care. The people you're playing with are great there's no such thing as regional servers. You play together with Japanese, European and American people, which I really like about it.

FFXI has a lot better graphics than WoW. FFXI characters have about 10x as many polygons as WoW characters and WoW's special effects and animations are also really lame compared to what you see in FFXI. There are no spectacular looking spells or attacks that drop your jaw when you see them for the first time. A fireball is just a...well a tiny fireball that doesn't even explode properly and all melee abilities look like any other swing.

Originally Posted by Kiron22

WoW is the best MMO out there but it is'nt perfect, like the way they abandoned the Warcraft look for a Anime look so it would appeal in asia, and the battle system is a bit lacking also the Duengons are a bore fest until your 50+.

Anime look? Looks a lot more like a Western cartoon to me.

You're right about the battle system, though (in PVE). If you're killing a raid boss you'll probably just keep mashing the same 2-3 buttons over and over without having to actually pay attention to what the other raid members are doing. In FFXI you had skill chains and magic bursts to make things interesting. In WoW....well when I deal damage on my warrior I just hit MS every 6 seconds and if I have rage, Whirlwind every 10 seconds. Sometimes some other abilities are useful, but I'm basically not interacting with my raid at all unless something goes wrong.

Also, some perhaps think it's a bad thing that you can't level up solo in FFXI, but in WoW if you can't get into a really nice guild you'll have to settle for random groups when you want to do instances, and since half of the players are either brainless kids or just grinded their chars to L60 without actually learning their class, not to mention group tactics, you won't have any fun.

[ayyo]

Yes, where do you get the idea WoW is 'anime'? If anything, its cartoony, not anime. The look is exactly the same as Warcraft 3, which was the point.

If WoW was anime, all the human males would be bishounen, orcs, trolls, tauren and undead would even be more uglier, gnomes would be chibis, dwarves would be super rugged, and everyone would have bigger eyes.

Plus there is no reason for them to go out of there way to 'appeal' in Asia when they have a legion of existing fanboys.

[Benoit]

all the human males would be bishounen

What the hell are you on?

[peegai]

Originally Posted by Benoit

What the hell are you on?

If you really want to know, those hentai hot-chicks he's having wetdreams about.

"Oh, Hazuki! Oh! Oh!"

[Itachikun]

A friend showed me this site, and i just cracked up.

WoW meets Porn

http://www.youtube.com/w/WOW-meets-P...20meets%20porn
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Bubbler pipe

[Ero-Sannin]

loooool, funny video :P, best wow video ever seen.

[Sokolov]

I'd agree with the assessment that FFXI is more "hardcore." It doesn't look it, but it's not the easiest MMORPG around.

[Abbott]

I'm not a huge fan of PvE oriented online games, but there was a time a few years ago when myself and some friends were considering getting FFXI. From what I'd heard back then, the community was pretty reasonable, and the game itself was good enough. Fortunately, before we ever got around to getting the game, Guild Wars showed up, and I've been playing that since. I'm a big fan of PvP, and Guild Wars gives me that.

If I had to choose now between FFXI and WoW now, then I'd have to pick FFXI. From what I've seen and read about the WoW community, it's not the best in the world. The PvP is also meant to be pretty rubbish. So I'd rather just play a game that I believe has better PvE and community, which would be FFXI.

[Village Idiot]

Anyone here play EVE: Online?

After playing through both varous MMORPG's to death, I can honestly say that EVE's the best MMORPG out there.

The universe is gigantic, with over 5000 systems out there to explore, and an enormous skill list to master...if it's even possible, since it's been calculated free expansion packs aside, it'll currently take someone about 10 years to master every single skill in EVE.

The skill system is great too, you basically set which skill you want to train, and it'll automatically do so, even if you're logged out. (this is of course balanced with skills taking longer and longer every level to train, with attributes/rank of skill determining the amount of time needed to train a skill. Currently, it'll take me about 3 weeks to get Lv5 Cruiser learned).

The economy is entirely player based, and nearly everything, from equipment, ammo, and ships are all player/corporation manufactured and put on the market, which varies from system to system.

The PvP system is like in WoW, where certain systems have little to no CONCORD (police) that'll stop you from killing someone. Going into these systems is intense, because of all the player pirates flying around that'll either blow up your ship, or stick you up and demand ransom (because if your ship is destroyed, you lose everything on it, and have to buy a new ship). This is countered with players able to put bounties on these players which is displayed on every station for player bounty hunters to kill and claim the prize. This also ends up with player run guilds whom make it their goal to hunt down pirates and even decide to place several systems under their protection.

The universe is also dynamic, and territory between the major powers changes every day. Players can group together to form Corporations, whom can build and outfit Starbases and equip/upgrade everything (Starbases appear on the map and can be destroyed by other players).

The community is fantastic, polite and helpful. I've gotten more help from other players in the first 9 hours of playing than in 9 months of playing SWG/WoW/FFXI. But EVE has a huge learning curve and is slower than other MMORPGs, so it isn't for everyone.

And get this; There is only one server, thus every single person plays in one huge universe.

[mxg]

Originally Posted by Village Idiot

And get this; There is only one server, thus every single person plays in one huge universe.

I am waiting until I see that that ONE server goes boom !

Well anyway I finally strayed away from FFXI and I am not in the proccess of makeing my WoW account so it better be marginly better than FFXI as everyone said.

[Benoit]

That sounds VERY interesting, Village Idiot. Exactly what I'd want out of an MMORPG. I'll definitely check it out. Thanks for posting about this.

[wake]

Yea EVE online does sound good, I think i'll go look it up. But everyone plays in the same server? That must be a huge server with many monsters. Certain games i've played where the servers are too crowded, the only way you can level up is if you can kill steal everyone else in the area.

But on topic, I would go with WoW because i've never tried it before. I didn't have that much fun on FFXI because I never had enough time to put in that game. Seriously anyone who's got pretty far in FFXI put a decent amount of time in. Even at low levels I sat around hours waiting for parties, i'm guessing it was the time zone difference I played in, but it's crazy trying to solo.

I would be playing WoW right now if my laptop could run it, but I heard a lot of good things about WoW and not too many cons except some classes are cheap.

[Village Idiot]

Originally Posted by wake

Yea EVE online does sound good, I think i'll go look it up. But everyone plays in the same server? That must be a huge server with many monsters. Certain games i've played where the servers are too crowded, the only way you can level up is if you can kill steal everyone else in the area.

But on topic, I would go with WoW because i've never tried it before. I didn't have that much fun on FFXI because I never had enough time to put in that game. Seriously anyone who's got pretty far in FFXI put a decent amount of time in. Even at low levels I sat around hours waiting for parties, i'm guessing it was the time zone difference I played in, but it's crazy trying to solo.

I would be playing WoW right now if my laptop could run it, but I heard a lot of good things about WoW and not too many cons except some classes are cheap.

Thing is, you don't actually gain levels in EVE.

All there is skill after skill in multiple catagories (ie: Science, Industry, Manufacturing, Social, Gunnery, Navigation, Drones, Command, etc), and all you do is select which skill to train and it'll auto do it for you, even when you're logged out.

EVE's universe is so huge that it's never crowded; if there's too many people in a system, just head to another.

There's multiple ways of getting loot; killing rats in asteroid belts and picking up cargo, manufacturing them yourself/corporation, going into massive 'complexes' with 20+ people (no limit) and fighting fleets of NPCs, or the funnest way; hunting and killing other players and picking up what can be salvaged from the remains of their ship

[rooboy]

Originally Posted by Kiron22

WoW is the best MMO out there but it is'nt perfect, like the way they abandoned the Warcraft look for a Anime look so it would appeal in asia, and the battle system is a bit lacking also the Duengons are a bore fest until your 50+.

I know this is a anime forum, but Anime is just getting in the way of what games are supposed too look like seriously would you rather WoW too look like

Spoiler:

or

In making WoW anime, its lost the feel of a wartorn world.

Umm, I'm not sure what those pictures have to do with anything, they're from Warhammer, not Warcraft. Though, as a long time lizardman player, I'm kind of offended that you couldn't post a picture of them. The one where the Slann is floating around behind the Saurus is great! World of Warcraft looks exactly like all of the Warcraft games have looked to me, I especially like how they've carried forward the little touches like clicking on someone a whole lot causes them to give you annoyed phrases.

Originally Posted by Entropy

that's what a Warhammer MMO is for

That would be very cool.

[KaiserBasara]

Guild Wars is kind of anime looking because of the gothic lolitas (necromancers), and the monk girls are kung fu girls.

But you know, anime probably didn't invent that.

[Wakoeme]

play Asheron's Call ^.^