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Old 2004-06-23, 02:19   Link #21
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What did you guys expect from something that airs on an obscure UHF channel every Saturdays at 24:30-25:00 (Sundays 12:30AM~1:00AM)?
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Old 2004-06-23, 06:51   Link #22
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Omg. I atually didnt notice that episode 13 was the last episode. When i heard that from my friend i was sooooo sad 0_o. There is still this sour feeling in me as i am typing. Why is such i nice anime ending. I hope Sanji rushes to midori's house and sees her.
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Old 2004-06-23, 21:00   Link #23
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I'm rooting for Ayase. And can't believe ep 13 is the end. What is the point of introducing Seiji's sister again? I think I must have missed something.
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Old 2004-06-23, 21:08   Link #24
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Um, Rin was introduced to tell Seiji's back story (at least, that's the only use for her in the anime). How can you possibly forget the nipple episode?
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Old 2004-06-23, 21:15   Link #25
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Um, Rin was introduced to tell Seiji's back story (at least, that's the only use for her in the anime). How can you possibly forget the nipple episode?
LOL... ok forgot about Seiji childhood I skim through it. Now every lil kid that didn't watch this series will be d/ling it all nite just to see what you just typed Snoopy-san. *sigh*
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Old 2004-06-23, 23:13   Link #26
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wow, SO MANY MIDORI HATERS.

guess you guys like to root for the underdog or something who knows.

but Midori's better
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Old 2004-06-23, 23:40   Link #27
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So. You'd fall in love with a girl that refuses to let you look at or think about anything perverted, interferes in your daily life, claims to know what's best for you even though she's never actually met you before, is uncontrolably happy, has a tantrum whenever she's not happy, and to top it off has forcefully attached herself to your body? You're a freak and Midori's a whore who can't do anything on her own.
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Old 2004-06-24, 00:36   Link #28
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So. You'd fall in love with a girl that refuses to let you look at or think about anything perverted,
Like Ayase is any different. The way she freaks out just looking at all of the porn that Seiji sometimes see suggests that she's not any different. At least I've seen Midori once looking at the porn together with Miyahara (who's not aware of her presence) and Seiji in a rather embarassed but curious look.

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interferes in your daily life,
Well duh! She's in his right hand. They practically has to share the body and as a result, interference is inevitable.

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claims to know what's best for you even though she's never actually met you before, is uncontrolably happy, has a tantrum whenever she's not happy,
Yes, just like Ayase keeps telling Seiji that he's late to come to the class, he's lazy and should be more dilligent, etc. Not to mention Ayase's out of this world imaginary world where she imagines things that are not real? Looking as if she has a PMS where the truth is she actually likes Seiji? Acting like a hypocrite while looking around for all sorts of lame trick in the book on how to attract a guy instead of admitting it straight out right from the start? Hmm, doesn't sound that different from Midori after all except for the hypocrite part.

Note: most people have tantrum whenever he/she is not happy, including you judging from this board.

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You're a freak and Midori's a whore who can't do anything on her own.
Snoopy, your attitude in this board ain't exactly great either. So your calling someone else as a freak and a fictional character as a whore borderline as schizoid and hypocritical.
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Old 2004-06-24, 01:08   Link #29
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I'm not sure exactly what you've been seeing, man. But Ayase stopped acting like a bitch to Seiji in the very beginning and doesn't ever try to run his life for him (although she is bossy by nature, it's a tolerable bossy. Especially in the anime/manga world where characters drag their love interests around to places they don't want to go to alone without even asking first). She may have the Narusegawa syndrome of hitting him every once in a while, but she doesn't beat up on him for the fun of it. Also, it's Midori's fault that she's on his hand in the first place, thus the sharing a body is her fault. Her own self-indulgance because she's too weak a person to look him in the eyes unless she's forced to. (btw, I know what chapter you're talking about with Midori looking at the porn with Miyahara and Seiji (volume 6, the confession chapter, right?), but Ayase does the same thing earlier on. Plus she takes notes. And it's a video, not some mere photo book.)

And yes, Ayase may be going about it incorrectly, but she IS trying. Midori just sat there watching him from across the street, -somehow- falling in love (I'm still not clear on how, and I think any impact it would have had on me is completely nullified by the incredible tardiness of the news), and never even talking to him. In fact, Ayase's tried to confess multiple times, but everything just backfires on her. That's why people start to feel sorry for her and want her to succeed. While Midori is blessed by God, getting her way at every single corner, taking advantage of the situation and actually messing up things for the other girls that are interested in Seiji. It makes me hate her. It really makes me hate the entire story, actually. Had I known it would have been like this from the start I never would have started translating it (I expected a 3 or 4 volume short cute little romance story... please note, that I was reading it in the weeklies from the beginning of volume 2 and started the manga translation the same week volume 1 came out).

And I'm not tantruming, I'm being a jerk. There's a not so subtle difference. I don't expect anyone to change their minds because I call them dipshits, I just enjoy doing it. You must not run away from the truth. Now, if I was having a tantrum, I'd be like... idunno, quoting him trying to make him apologize for his opinion or something.

One last thing. I never claim to be anything other than an asshole (or you know... some variation of asshole, like the jerk I mentioned above ). I just happen to not act like one when I -understand- things. Ie, if I could see some reason to root for Midori, some reason to think that someone could POSSIBLY fall in love with a parasite growing on their arm causing them no end of problems, then I wouldn't mention a thing about it. I've said it before, but if I woke up and there was a chick on my arm I'd kill it without a second thought. "Good morning, freakish face growing out of my right hand. This is mister wall, I hope you two like each other 'cause the two of you'll be kissing until I can't tell you have lips anymore."
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Old 2004-06-24, 01:21   Link #30
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Ayase or Midori...

Ayase or Midori...

Ah crap. Well, here's to hoping that we'll get a light version of the GreenGreen Erolutions ending. Only longer this time.
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Old 2004-06-24, 05:37   Link #31
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Yes, just like Ayase keeps telling Seiji that he's late to come to the class, he's lazy and should be more dilligent, etc. Not to mention Ayase's out of this world imaginary world where she imagines things that are not real? Looking as if she has a PMS where the truth is she actually likes Seiji? Acting like a hypocrite while looking around for all sorts of lame trick in the book on how to attract a guy instead of admitting it straight out right from the start? Hmm, doesn't sound that different from Midori after all except for the hypocrite part.
Hypocrite part???? So, midori forced herself on to Seiji is ok but when another girl try to do somewhat the same thing, she would stop them? The kiss scene...Seiji show that he liked Ayase in disguise and Midori tried to stop him from kissing Ayase. Wtf...did dude ever say "Midori I love you and I won't cheat on you or something" Umm.. no he did not. Actually she tried to force him to say it. Oh yeah, Midori should have went straight out and say she liked Seiji instead of praying to w/e to be his right hand. That way if Seiji rejected her she still going to bug him until he like her since they are stuck together. Yea, that sure beat out the trying to follow a book to get a guy.

Midori= Desperate and need medical attention
Ayase= Desperate but tolerable.

Another reason why Ayase is better.....she could have kissed Seiji but end up knocking him out. Why? She want it to be special. While Midori"Please Seiji-kun say you love me even though it might not be true" What so special and great about that, asking a guy to say it. Blah blah...i'm out of this discussion
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Old 2004-06-24, 06:13   Link #32
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... Midori's a whore who can't do anything on her own.
Midori seems quite capable, even though she's his right hand - able to clean the house, knit, cook etc. If she were 'lifesize' she would be that much more.

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So. You'd fall in love with a girl that refuses to let you look at or think about anything perverted, interferes in your daily life, claims to know what's best for you [even though she's never actually met you before], is uncontrolably happy, has a tantrum whenever she's not happy, [and to top it off has forcefully attached herself to your body?]
*Italicised text my own addition.

Apart from the italicised text, that pretty much describes most people's significant other.
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Old 2004-06-24, 11:12   Link #33
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Midori seems quite capable, even though she's his right hand - able to clean the house, knit, cook etc. If she were 'lifesize' she would be that much more.



*Italicised text my own addition.

Apart from the italicised text, that pretty much describes most people's significant other.
well ayase seems to have almost the same capabilities as Midori
she was sewing a scarf,and she also made a bento for Sawamura right?
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Old 2004-06-24, 11:30   Link #34
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Hypocrite part???? So, midori forced herself on to Seiji is ok
Forced herself on Seiji? Are we reading the same manga here? How can she forces herself on him when she doesn't even know how she got stuck in his hand to begin with. Yes, she wants to be with him but how on Earth will she knows that her wish will end up in a rather messed up condition? Don't you ever wish for something which then turns out to be granted but in a rather horrifying situation?

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but when another girl try to do somewhat the same thing, she would stop them?
Have you ever fall in love with another person? If yes, then I dare you not to feel jealous when the object of your affection goes for any random person when he/she completely ignores you.

Besides, have you forgotten Ayase's attempt to ruin Lucy's lovey dovey attempt with Sawamura? Huh, funny how suddenly people forget about that part.

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Oh yeah, Midori should have went straight out and say she liked Seiji instead of praying to w/e to be his right hand.
She did tell him that she likes him when she first found herself grafted onto his right hand. And yes, she did want to be with him but she has no way of knowing that she'll be in his right hand. Would you wish to be on someone else's hand just because you want to be with them? no sane person will want that. And I don't think the author wants the reader to think that Midori is insane.

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Another reason why Ayase is better.....she could have kissed Seiji but end up knocking him out. Why? She want it to be special.
That's actually the part that I can't stand about Ayase. She has too much pride in herself that I have to wonder if she really likes Seiji or if she just sees him as some kind of a prize. If you love someone, then you have to admit that some kind of sacrifice is needed on your part. Sometimes you have to let go your pride and just go for it. But Ayase's pride keeps getting in the way until the last chapter when it's all too late. Life will never be perfect. Situations will never be perfect. You just have to make the best of every situation that is available to you. That is something that Ayase fails to understand.
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Old 2004-06-24, 14:27   Link #35
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Forced herself on Seiji? Are we reading the same manga here? How can she forces herself on him when she doesn't even know how she got stuck in his hand to begin with. Yes, she wants to be with him but how on Earth will she knows that her wish will end up in a rather messed up condition? Don't you ever wish for something which then turns out to be granted but in a rather horrifying situation?
Ok..I was wrong on the forcing to be on his right hand. Must admit that. How come you didn't comment on forcing Seiji to say I love you Midori?
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Have you ever fall in love with another person? If yes, then I dare you not to feel jealous when the object of your affection goes for any random person when he/she completely ignores you.
Ok.. you got me there on the love and jealousy. So it's ok for Midori to be in love and jealous but for Ayase it's not ok to be shy and in love.
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Besides, have you forgotten Ayase's attempt to ruin Lucy's lovey dovey attempt with Sawamura? Huh, funny how suddenly people forget about that part.
Let me use one of yours answer and add something new for fun. When someone is in love they would do almost anything. For some ppl ANYTHING.

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She did tell him that she likes him when she first found herself grafted onto his right hand. And yes, she did want to be with him but she has no way of knowing that she'll be in his right hand. Would you wish to be on someone else's hand just because you want to be with them? no sane person will want that. And I don't think the author wants the reader to think that Midori is insane.
Sure tell the guy you like him. After you got STUCK on his HAND. Not like there is anything he or you could do at first. That is really straight forward. Anyone would say the same thing, if they found out they are on the right hand of someone they had a crush on.
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That's actually the part that I can't stand about Ayase. She has too much pride in herself that I have to wonder if she really likes Seiji or if she just sees him as some kind of a prize. If you love someone, then you have to admit that some kind of sacrifice is needed on your part. Sometimes you have to let go your pride and just go for it. But Ayase's pride keeps getting in the way until the last chapter when it's all too late. Life will never be perfect. Situations will never be perfect. You just have to make the best of every situation that is available to you. That is something that Ayase fails to understand.
I'm going to use snoopy-san wise word.
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I'm not sure exactly what you've been seeing, man. But Ayase stopped acting like a bitch to Seiji in the very beginning and doesn't ever try to run his life for him (although she is bossy by nature, it's a tolerable bossy. Especially in the anime/manga world where characters drag their love interests around to places they don't want to go to alone without even asking first). She may have the Narusegawa syndrome of hitting him every once in a while, but she doesn't beat up on him for the fun of it.
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Yea, that is why most suppose to be "goodie" student avoid Seiji in class but after Ayase found out he is a decent guy. Guess what, she move next to him. If she had too much pride then she wouldn't do that since she talk shit about him before that. So it would be quite embrassing to start being friendly with someone you talk shit about. And what would those goodie students say behind her back. Btw, since you read my example about the kissing. Did you notice the view that Ayase had at that moment? And you want Ayase to make the best of it by going for it. She have self control even though it was her chance to kiss Seiji. Oh yeah, Seiji was looking at Midori as he walk by and look at Midori..just put her head down and let him walk away. Sitting at the same train station and didn't even try to get to know dude. Damn she is making the best out of some of those situation. Face it, ppl don't make the best out of everything. Rememeber umm what was that... "life will never be perfect." So don't expect ppl to make the best out of everything.

In the end, both are the same. Midori is weak. Ayase is a lil bit more since she actually know Seiji. Both girls are annoying just that Midori is much more. "I love you Seiji. I love you seji.....I love you seiji" Energizer Bunny..annoying.
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Old 2004-06-24, 15:27   Link #36
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No... she did force herself, be it voluntary or not. Her soul is where her happiness can be found. In other words, she's there because SHE wants to be there, not because it's some mutual thing they agreed on and signed or something.
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the problem about Midori is that she has a split personality, and in human form just too shy (Ayase is also shy but at least she's able to confess to Seiji), and in right hand form just too noisy, annoying, and irresponsible (I mean she saw how her mother and friends suffered but she still just want to stay as Seiji's right hand and hide the secret from everyone)

I mean, do you want a girlfriend who keeps wearing a shirt saying "I LOVE *insert your name here*" on the front or basically want to paint "I LOVE *insert your name here*" everywhere she goes and put "I LOVE *insert your name here*" on the bread you eat and try to force you to wear shirts saying "I LOVE *insert girl's name here*" etc. etc. ?

well, I'd say human Midori is okay, although a bit shy I guess she's okay to be a girlfriend at least, while a girlfriend like right hand Midori will drive people crazy. Ayase, on the other hand, is better than both forms of Midori
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Old 2004-06-24, 19:31   Link #38
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ayase for teh win! :P
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Old 2004-06-24, 22:00   Link #39
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Buy lots and lots of porn!!!

Hahahaha then madness ensues....
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the problem about Midori is that she has a split personality, and in human form just too shy (Ayase is also shy but at least she's able to confess to Seiji), and in right hand form just too noisy, annoying, and irresponsible (I mean she saw how her mother and friends suffered but she still just want to stay as Seiji's right hand and hide the secret from everyone)

I mean, do you want a girlfriend who keeps wearing a shirt saying "I LOVE *insert your name here*" on the front or basically want to paint "I LOVE *insert your name here*" everywhere she goes and put "I LOVE *insert your name here*" on the bread you eat and try to force you to wear shirts saying "I LOVE *insert girl's name here*" etc. etc. ?

well, I'd say human Midori is okay, although a bit shy I guess she's okay to be a girlfriend at least, while a girlfriend like right hand Midori will drive people crazy. Ayase, on the other hand, is better than both forms of Midori
Yeah Midori is rather selfish I think, but I don't think she has split personality. I think I would act differently than I would now if I end up being a right hand of some guy I like. I mean chances are I would act all insane. Why not after all? Nothing is real.

I find that shirt annoying too, thank God she does not always where that.

Ayase is cool, but she is annoying at times too, her fantasies are disturbing.
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