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Old 2004-02-22, 00:54   Link #101
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I hope there's a second season in the works, it's such a beautifully done show. Although it can be quite melancholy at times. I loved it a lot.

As for Angelica. I would have to say she died, atleast that's what I got from her seeing all those stars shooting across the sky at the same time. When we cut back to the other girls they didn't see anything like that, so I just assumed it was something Angelica was seeing right before death.
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Old 2004-02-22, 05:17   Link #102
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Okay, whoever said that Ange wasn't going to die, she looked pretty dead to me. She did not respond when Marco called her.

I thought the ending (if it is the ending) was fairly mediocre. It was kinda cute to see the girls actually having fun for once and hanging out with each other, and Marco to stop scape-goating Angelica and actually comfort her before she died. But I guess I was expecting it to end with a bang...
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Old 2004-02-22, 05:21   Link #103
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Thats as bang as it gets I'm afraid :P the series created a very strong mood all the way through, and I think the ending was very fitting. If she died. Which I believe she did
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Old 2004-02-22, 06:02   Link #104
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But I guess I was expecting it to end with a bang...
The series wasn't about Action or Guns or even Bio-technology. It was all about feelings of young girls and the love for their instructors. So I think they did a pretty good end to the anime. In addition, it's an opened end which means you can imagine what you want. Every thing is possible and will not necessary be develop in a GsG 2 series.
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Old 2004-02-22, 06:59   Link #105
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I don't quite understand/remember why they have to make Triela into a getai, is she mortally wounded in the rescue or something?
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Old 2004-02-22, 08:30   Link #106
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I'll like a movie for Gsg and maybe an ova. Well the animeation for the series is already OVA quality If they come with a second season they would have to come up with a new idea other then the girls feelings for the brothers. Maybe the final months before the expire. But if they do make a second season we'll all want it to be a just as, and if not better then the first season!
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Old 2004-02-22, 09:22   Link #107
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I don't quite understand/remember why they have to make Triela into a getai, is she mortally wounded in the rescue or something?
Section 2 rescued her from child porn ring in Armsterdam. Read the manga volume 1, she said it bluntly.
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Old 2004-02-22, 09:35   Link #108
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Section 2 rescued her from child porn ring in Armsterdam. Read the manga volume 1, she said it bluntly.
still she has her uterus !
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Old 2004-02-22, 10:34   Link #109
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still she has her uterus !
what's that got todo with it?
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Old 2004-02-22, 11:02   Link #110
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Section 2 rescued her from child porn ring in Armsterdam. Read the manga volume 1, she said it bluntly.
what's that to do with turning her into a getai? was she badly hurt or something? The other girls don't have much choice because their poor physical condition, they'll die or have great trauma or bed-ridden for the entire life if not changed into getai. But what about Triela? what was her condition when she was rescued? I guess she didn't have much mental trauma since her memory was not wiped, that's why I wonder if she was mortally wounded.
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Old 2004-02-22, 12:40   Link #111
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what's that to do with turning her into a getai? was she badly hurt or something? The other girls don't have much choice because their poor physical condition, they'll die or have great trauma or bed-ridden for the entire life if not changed into getai. But what about Triela? what was her condition when she was rescued? I guess she didn't have much mental trauma since her memory was not wiped, that's why I wonder if she was mortally wounded.
She never said what happened to her before she join Section 2 or forgotten (ie: brainwashed) all about it. She has no family or any home prior to the Armsterdam, I can safely speculate that she is sold into the child sex industry there. I am sure she is more than willing to join another life in Section 2.

The fact she almost or did end up in padeophile film is bad enough for severe mental trauma trigger. What makes you think that she did not have much mental trauma being gangpressed into a child porno flick?
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Old 2004-02-22, 12:56   Link #112
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hum it's insane. I think.
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Old 2004-02-22, 13:41   Link #113
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actually the very last clip is nothing....just a random clip..

that clip i think was also in the very beginning..
So much for trying to put some thought into what the show was trying to say. Could you explain a little more why you think the very last scene in ep13 was completely meaningless and random? Do you really believe that they had 30 seconds to waste, and didn't know what else to fill it up with?
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Old 2004-02-22, 14:10   Link #114
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Section 2 rescued her from child porn ring in Armsterdam. Read the manga volume 1, she said it bluntly.

*cough cough* O.O okay can't even imagine that.
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Old 2004-02-22, 14:11   Link #115
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yes, the very last scene is the very first as well.
My 2 cents : maybe they wanted to say it's just a loop. Even if things happened to the girls, their situation is just the same right now.

The timeline is really complicated in that series. So, it's hard to know the events in the right chronological order. Maybe Angelica fell asleep before Henrietta went bersek in ep. 1? Maybe they wanted to explain why angelica was getting mad. I don't remember seeing Ange in ep. 1 & 2. Do you?
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Old 2004-02-22, 14:12   Link #116
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So much for trying to put some thought into what the show was trying to say. Could you explain a little more why you think the very last scene in ep13 was completely meaningless and random? Do you really believe that they had 30 seconds to waste, and didn't know what else to fill it up with?

in my opinion....i think an opening clip would fit into a ending clip you know? just to show that the story was closing. kinda hard to explain what im thinking
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Old 2004-02-22, 14:13   Link #117
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yes, the very last scene is the very first as well.
My 2 cents : maybe they wanted to say it's just a loop. Even if things happened to the girls, their situation is just the same right now.

The timeline is really complicated in that series. So, it's hard to know the events in the right chronological order. Maybe Angelica fell asleep before Henrietta went bersek in ep. 1? Maybe they wanted to explain why angelica was getting mad. I don't remember seeing Ange in ep. 1 & 2. Do you?


nono...if she "died" before the first episode...than why didn't henrietta know who she was in the wheelchair? which was after the beserk


EDIT: wait...was that Claes?

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Old 2004-02-22, 15:57   Link #118
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I supposed now, after reading the responses, it only seems logical that she died. It's only way it could bring the show to a close at all. The only thing is that I would have liked to see the dog do more than just bark for her. He did bring it all the way back to the hospital. Oh, and a stronger reaction from Marco would have been nice, but since he never showed much emotion anyway, it was alright.

I personally would really like to see something else come from the show. Maybe even a second series. Who knows. I kinda feel the way I did after Cowboy Bebop, although it wasn't the main character who died in GsG.
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Old 2004-02-22, 16:22   Link #119
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I think Angelica did die at the end. They kept on showing the light reflection in her eyes dimming as they flashed back and forth between the scenes. Right at the end when she closed her eyes, it was just about gone. I interpreted that as a sign that she died. *sob* I thought the ending was appropriate for the series; it went well with the mood that was presented overall. I don't really think an OVA/movie/second series is necessary for GsG. In an odd way, I thought it was complete just as it is.

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Old 2004-02-22, 17:19   Link #120
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nono...if she "died" before the first episode...than why didn't henrietta know who she was in the wheelchair? which was after the beserk


EDIT: wait...was that Claes?
No, you are victim of one of the flashback. As I said, the time line is confusing every one here.

When José and Henrietta meet Angelica (it's indeed Angelica) (ep.2 - 9min20sec), this scene is when Henrietta was still in her training days. You can guess that by the marine uniform she is wearing which is the same than when she was using her gun for the first time.

So, it's not at the same period.
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