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Old 2008-12-07, 06:39   Link #1841
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I... I'm lost for words at the Listening for Lv2 that I did today.

First the announcer asks the question, something in the lines of "Where is Mr X going next month?" "1. Town A, 2. Town B, etc"

OK, so I paid attention to the conversation, "Blah, blah, blah..." Before I even figured out what was being said and which part was related to the question, the conversation was over. I was like, OMG...

As for the third part, Comprehension and Grammar, starting from Lv2, you really need to master your time management skills, because you only have 70 minutes. Good thing I did a mock the day before and realized it took me nearly 15 minutes just to comprehend the first passage without even answering the questions, and there are 58 questions.

My strategy was to start off with the Grammar section first, it wasn't easy, but I hope it pays off as I now have time to go back and re-check any mistakes I've made.

Then I worked my way backwards, starting with the comprehension texts that only have one question, since they're quick to read, and each of these questions give you a whopping 5 points.

Right, I'll just have to hope for the best when the result comes in March.


Hmm, I thought the listening test was the most easy test of them all, but that one graph question was hard, maybe I didn't pay attention hard enough lol. The Comprehension and Grammar was VERY hard, omg I was sweating bullets. I didn't manage my time correctly, I should have done the grammar portion of the test, then reading. Whatever..
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Old 2008-12-07, 07:13   Link #1842
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Is it kosher to ask for translations in this thread?

edit: well Ill just ask. Trying to describe my son's GUR symptoms to my mother in law. Whats the Japanese terms for 'heartburn' and 'stomach acid' in romanji? Please don't transliterate 'heartburn' as I imagine that would sound scary.
heartburn 胸やけ mune-yake
stomach acid 胃酸 i-san
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Old 2008-12-07, 07:42   Link #1843
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Tomorrow's gonna be a relaxed day. Four hours by train, four hours JLPT, four hours back.
I'm not so confident anymore though, didn't learn anything in the past few weeks. I just can hope that all my reading will make up for it somehow. And hopefully I won't be too unsure about the result once it's over; I imagine that having no idea of whether or not I passed for about three months wouldn't be very cool...
Well, I survived the Ikkyuu. Dead tired now, though.

The listening and grammar sections were all right. Reading comprehension was borderline: I understood the passages, but I had a hard time figuring out how some of the answers to the questions were different from each other. There must be some subtle nuances that I still don't quite get.

As for kanji/vocabulary: ouch. If I fail the exam, it will be because I bombed this section. If you just give me a word, I don't have too much trouble picking apart the meaning / pronunciation, but when you take one word, extrapolate the pronunciation of one character, apply it to something else? I got nothin'. Guess I should get to work on studying words for the re-take in July, regardless of whether I manage to squeak by with a 70...
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Old 2008-12-07, 09:29   Link #1844
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Hmm, I thought the listening test was the most easy test of them all, but that one graph question was hard, maybe I didn't pay attention hard enough lol. The Comprehension and Grammar was VERY hard, omg I was sweating bullets. I didn't manage my time correctly, I should have done the grammar portion of the test, then reading. Whatever..
well, i am the worst here then. Both Listening and Grammar were hard, especially the Grammar.. oh man, my time management sux! Unable to finish the paper...

Guess that I definitely need a miracle just to pass this paper. Anyway, good for those residing in areas that have the July papers next yr.... Arrgghhh and why only certain regions have them!?! This is so unfair.! :X
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Old 2008-12-07, 10:24   Link #1845
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Good luck to those who still have time before taking it (mostly only those left in the US now eh). I'm going to "study" this morning by going to Japan Town for a little shopping. :P

Maybe I've mentioned it before but despite having studied level 2 material this past year, I don't have the confidence for it, so I signed up for 3. Feel free to call me a wimp, but I'm not a very good test-taker regardless. After a lot of review, next year level 2 for sure...
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Old 2008-12-07, 18:29   Link #1846
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Well, I survived the Ikkyuu. Dead tired now, though.

The listening and grammar sections were all right. Reading comprehension was borderline: I understood the passages, but I had a hard time figuring out how some of the answers to the questions were different from each other. There must be some subtle nuances that I still don't quite get.

As for kanji/vocabulary: ouch. If I fail the exam, it will be because I bombed this section. If you just give me a word, I don't have too much trouble picking apart the meaning / pronunciation, but when you take one word, extrapolate the pronunciation of one character, apply it to something else? I got nothin'. Guess I should get to work on studying words for the re-take in July, regardless of whether I manage to squeak by with a 70...
Heh, I survived it as well. The Kanji plus vocabulary part was by far the hardest one for me but that was to be expected. Listening comprehension was ok, even though I didn't do as good as I thought I would. At times I just couldn't really concentrate anymore. And that break was a joke....
[ちょっと休憩しましょう!」
*5 seconds of elevator music*
「では、次の質問!」


If I pass it'll be because of part 3, especially reading comprehension I found to be rather easy. I know what you mean when you're talking about subtle nuances - but they definitely were in the text if you read closely enough.
Alright then, gotta go get up in 4 hours, about time I get to bed. See ya!^^
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Old 2008-12-07, 22:24   Link #1847
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At times I just couldn't really concentrate anymore. And that break was a joke....
[ちょっと休憩しましょう!」
*5 seconds of elevator music*
「では、次の質問!」
That was hilarious XD And I also couldn't concentrate as well during listening comprehension.. They were speaking sooo slowly, I started dozing off in the middle of each one!

Vocab portion wildly swayed between very easy and very difficult (very easy if I knew the vocab; very difficult if I didn't - there was hardly any context to draw meaning from!!) while the grammar portion was a piece of cake - I finished that portion at least a half hour early. I'm very confident I passed, but I'm hoping for a high score as well.
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Old 2008-12-08, 05:10   Link #1848
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Damn, i made a huge mistake by looking at those chinese sites which have posted the online answers for the JLPT paper... and i guess i only pass the vocab section. OMG! *faintz*

*in the state of depression and denial now*
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Old 2008-12-08, 16:17   Link #1849
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If there's one thing I've learned from watching the JLPT antics over the last couple of years ... its that cramming and cheat sites don't work. You simply have to be more comfortable with the language than the test level you've about to take is testing for.
Of course, that's one reason I keep putting off my own descent into JLPT madness.
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Old 2008-12-09, 20:08   Link #1850
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I know a few words( idk if someone already said, I am sort of new here and refuse to read all of this from start too much )
Hmmm, idk if im spelling this right,
Shini (She-Neh) Die
Well, I dont want to type aaaallllllll the words I know
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Old 2008-12-10, 07:05   Link #1851
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I know a few words( idk if someone already said, I am sort of new here and refuse to read all of this from start too much )
Hmmm, idk if im spelling this right,
Shini (She-Neh) Die
Well, I dont want to type aaaallllllll the words I know
Well, it's not the imperative, but if you say it the right way it comes across as a request...

That said, it's not the kind of vocabulary you'll find much opportunity to use in day-to-day conversation, unless you intend on making people look at you funny.
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Old 2008-12-11, 05:02   Link #1852
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That said, it's not the kind of vocabulary you'll find much opportunity to use in day-to-day conversation, unless you intend on making people look at you funny.
Yes, I agree.


It's not a term you want to use in normal conversations, unless you're having a conversation with someone close, like a good friend. Also, it's a vulgar term. You don't want to go down the street in Japan and start shouting "shineh" out loud. Other than getting funny looks and getting laughed at, someone or some people might think you're saying that to them and get angry.
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Old 2008-12-11, 05:09   Link #1853
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It's not a term you want to use in normal conversations, unless you're having a conversation with someone close, like a good friend. Also, it's a vulgar term. You don't want to go down the street in Japan and start shouting "shineh" out loud. Other than getting funny looks and getting laughed at, someone or some people might think you're saying that to them and get angry.
hee hee hee, it's so easy to spot out who's been watching waaaay too much anime and hasn't hung around japanese natives much.
Simply put, just reverse the situation and imagine a bunch of foreigners shouting out power ranger commands, or cheesy superhero sentences:
"I will defeat you in the name of freedom!"
"Justice will be served!"
"Eat this, punk!"
"Evil will never win!"
(and so on, lol)

So for that reason, I keep the cheesy anime comments to jp karaoke songs and other gaijin who may be interested in the same anime (eg: naruto)
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Old 2008-12-11, 05:29   Link #1854
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hee hee hee, it's so easy to spot out who's been watching waaaay too much anime and hasn't hung around japanese natives much.
Indeed. From my personal experiences, people who randomly shout out vulgar Japanese terms and/or slang terms are usually just very odd showoffs. Now of course, this is not the universal reason for this behavior, but it's what I have observed throughout the years. A guy I know used to go around shouting terms like "sukebeh(pervert)" and the like all the time, like at the local community college. >>
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Old 2008-12-11, 09:36   Link #1855
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Indeed. From my personal experiences, people who randomly shout out vulgar Japanese terms and/or slang terms are usually just very odd showoffs. Now of course, this is not the universal reason for this behavior, but it's what I have observed throughout the years. A guy I know used to go around shouting terms like "sukebeh(pervert)" and the like all the time, like at the local community college. >>
It's not really that uncommon for people who are still at a relatively low level of a given language to be proficient in... certain areas of vocabulary. My ninensei boys, for example, sometimes struggle with how to answer the question "How are you?", yet they know all the words for various parts of the anatomy that they have a keen interest in, as well as a plethora of phrases that could get them beaten up in America.

Given that, I think it basically comes down to where one's priorities lie. If it's being able to hold a conversation, then one makes an effort to learn what it takes to engage someone else in small talk or serious discussion. If it's finding porn on the internet, you get a fair percentage of my male students. And, of course, if it's spouting the phrases you know from your favorite anime, you'll find a decent amount of people on any given anime forum. Hell — even I was like that, years upon years ago.
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Old 2008-12-14, 07:07   Link #1856
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And, of course, if it's spouting the phrases you know from your favorite anime, you'll find a decent amount of people on any given anime forum. Hell even I was like that, years upon years ago.
Well, I suppose it's just the fascination of learning something cool and/or interesting in another language. Plus, some people are more open/vocal than others.
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Old 2009-01-05, 17:42   Link #1857
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Is there a Japanese version of qwerty and what is it?
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Old 2009-01-05, 17:57   Link #1858
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Uhm, I'm planning to learn all of the 2000 compulsory Kanji before any serious learning. Is it a good idea? (just learn how to write and the meaning of those, not the pronunciation). I got like 300 in 4 days thx to Heisig's methods.

Or should I stop now and concentrate more in grammar and stuffs?
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Old 2009-01-05, 18:22   Link #1859
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Uhm, I'm planning to learn all of the 2000 compulsory Kanji before any serious learning. Is it a good idea? (just learn how to write and the meaning of those, not the pronunciation). I got like 300 in 4 days thx to Heisig's methods.

Or should I stop now and concentrate more in grammar and stuffs?
Recognition alone will help you figure out meaning to a healthy extent, but there are other aspects of of kanji that are just as important as knowing what they mean. Pronunciation (especially when it comes to the various and sundry kun readings) can be fairly closely tied to grammar, especially when it comes to learning the nuances of usage.

That said, if you don't consider memorizing two thousand kanji "serious learning", maybe you'll be fine regardless.
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Old 2009-01-05, 18:53   Link #1860
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Uhm, I mean rearranging the way my brain works and making it to so naturally (Japanese grammar) requires much more effort. Man, I;ve even tried to spell a word in kana in stead of romaji lately (everything in kana), and it's slowwwww
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