AnimeSuki Forums

Register Forum Rules FAQ Members List Social Groups Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   AnimeSuki Forum > Anime Discussion > Older Series > Retired > School Rumble

Notices

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old 2006-12-02, 09:00   Link #1041
executioner465
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
thx sry for the trouble.....
executioner465 is offline  
Old 2006-12-02, 12:35   Link #1042
wontaek
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Planet Earth
Age: 45
I think we need to think the question in the other direction.

1. For Eri's sake, do you think Harima is a good guy for her or would she be more likely to be better off we some other random character? My suspicion is that she might find her life more enjoyable and productive we an average guy instead of Harima, whose is unique in many ways. Harima makes Eri embarass herself, not neccessary in good way, and prone to making her very angry, again not really a good thing. What he offers is a good experience for the young, but I would hesitate recommending building long lasting stable relationship based on that, so that is why I think it is better for Eri to not worry about 'boyfriend' thing until she goes to college. She would have plenty of time to worry about it, then, and by that time, She and Harima might have sufficiently changed for the better.

2. For Tenma's sake, who is the best guy for her? Although Harima do cares for her a lot, we shouldn't underestimate what goes on below the calm face of Karasuma. Karasuma offers much needed emotional stability to Tenma. Harima is very likely to create various turmoils with anyone around him; this is not neccessary bad for characters that needs to be shaken up, though. For her sake, and the sake of everyone around them, I hope Karasuma proposes to her before they graduate from high school.

3. For Yakumo's sake, who will be the best guy for her? In a sense, I think Harima had finished his job helping Yakumo grow. Unless there is drastic changes with Harima, there isn't much he can make Yakumo grow, so that may be the reason we seldom see Yakumo anymore. In contrast, Harima still is capable of inducing more changes in Eri, so we are going to see Eri more. Although Harima respects Yakumo, a rare thing for Harima who probably doesn't respect Tenma very much, Yakumo and Harima would gain much by becoming more mature and knowledgeable before engaging in any serious relationship. That is why I would recommend Yakumo to not worry about boys until her college days, similar to Eri. Although she is different from Eri, she also has rooms to grow so Eri, Yakumo, and Harima would benefit from more growth in solitude.

4. Mikoto: Asou AND Hanai is a good fit for her, in slight different ways. She is already a big girl, in some ways, so she should be fine unless something weird happens.

5. Akira: She doesn't need someone as her boyfriend, but if she desires one, Hanai seems to be best. Why she should want Hanai is a reason that's beyond me.

6. Yuuki: She likes Hanai, and Hanai isn't a bad fit for her. Whether it is Hanai or the Cameraman, she should be fine.

7. Karen: Imadori is not a good guy for her, yet. He has shown some good developements since he met Karen, so I am postponing any judgement.
__________________

Last edited by wontaek; 2006-12-02 at 12:49.
wontaek is offline  
Old 2006-12-02, 14:18   Link #1043
ichigoismyhomie
ichigo's homie
 
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: da great state of kalipornyaaah
i can't help it to answer these questions.....

1. i think harima is perfect match for all three of them (eri, tenma, yakumo). He is able to brought up the best out of yakumo and eri, and connected with tenma in lots of different things. The thing is, these girls need to overcome their own problem to make things work with harima (and so does harima). Yakumo need to be more assertive instead letting tenma get harima. She knows she like harima, but her "loyalty" to tenma just kill the whole mood. Eri is DEFINITELY love harima. In the beginning, her pride and ego are the things that keeping her away. but she's been working on these issues, slowly but sure. She learned to grow up and how to deal with romance. As for tenma, she connects so easily with harima is so many different ways. from the samurai tv show to the shrimp thing, they got lots of things in common.

4. mikoto is a big girl......(i'm pretty sure she is.......**D cup**), well she needs to make her mind with asou. I think they're the only normal couple in SR

5. akira....i don't think hanai is a good match for her. earlier in the series, she hates hanai's guts. I think togou is a better match for her. I remember akira along so well with him when togou throw the new year at his place.

6. yuuki.......i think she should go out with nishimoto......just for the heck of it

7. karen.....imadori showing some maturit
__________________
currently watching: bleach, Claymore...I'm trying to quit watching anime.....2 more series to go...then I'm done
ichigoismyhomie is offline  
Old 2006-12-02, 14:20   Link #1044
ichigoismyhomie
ichigo's homie
 
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: da great state of kalipornyaaah
i can't help it to answer these questions.....

1. i think harima is perfect match for all three of them (eri, tenma, yakumo). He is able to brought up the best out of yakumo and eri, and connected with tenma in lots of different things. The thing is, these girls need to overcome their own problem to make things work with harima (and so does harima). Yakumo need to be more assertive instead letting tenma get harima. She knows she like harima, but her "loyalty" to tenma just kill the whole mood. Eri is DEFINITELY love harima. In the beginning, her pride and ego are the things that keeping her away. but she's been working on these issues, slowly but sure. She learned to grow up and how to deal with romance. As for tenma, she connects so easily with harima is so many different ways. from the samurai tv show to the shrimp thing, they got lots of things in common.

4. mikoto is a big girl......(i'm pretty sure she is.......**D cup**) , well she needs to make her mind with asou. I think they're the only normal couple in SR

5. akira....i don't think hanai is a good match for her. earlier in the series, she hates hanai's guts. I think togou is a better match for her. I remember akira along so well with him when togou throw the new year at his place.

6. yuuki.......i think she should go out with nishimoto......just for the heck of it

7. karen.....imadori showing some maturity as the series progress. if he keeps it up, i think they will make a good couple
__________________
currently watching: bleach, Claymore...I'm trying to quit watching anime.....2 more series to go...then I'm done
ichigoismyhomie is offline  
Old 2006-12-02, 17:24   Link #1045
biomy
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
the author is making jokes based on the mentality of school rumble's readers, and i can see why he would from this thread alone

serious business
biomy is offline  
Old 2006-12-02, 17:47   Link #1046
taichikun14
Member
 
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
i like this week's chapter. very funny i loved harima's hallucinations -- SO funny!! man i love harima! i'm so glad to see more of him in the recent chapters. i wish we could have a serious tenma chapter sometime though. just to get into her mind a little bit because i noticed we hardly get to see her thoughts on anything... whereas in like every chapter you can see what's going through eri or harima's mind...
taichikun14 is offline  
Old 2006-12-02, 17:49   Link #1047
vegetax
Some Random New Guy
 
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Canada
Age: 33
Quote:
Originally Posted by biomy View Post
the author is making jokes based on the mentality of school rumble's readers, and i can see why he would from this thread alone

serious business
The internets is always serious business, remember that. It's just hard for everyone to not wish for the best for their respective favorite character. The vast majority of the characters in this show are very likeable and its hard not to get a little attached to them and hope for the best. If this manga was always super silly then I don't think anyone would care about relationships but its those really well done serious moments that keep you hoping for more development in that area. Regaurdless of the outcome, in the end I'll still think of SR as one of my fav animes/manga's of all time.

That being said, GO ERI GO!!!

Vegeta X
__________________
Could be worse I suppose, I could be at SIAST. Oh wait...
vegetax is offline  
Old 2006-12-02, 20:23   Link #1048
biomy
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
granted

i was actually just talking about all the impatient anxious solution-forming mentalities that are like, "I KNOW HOW TO FIX THIS SITUATION GET OVER HERE" and throw scorpion spears at the characters because they are anxious and want to rid themselves of the immense frustration caused by the lack of immediate denouement within the relationships between characters

and that a lot of the times people garystu/marysue their own feelings into the matter and project them onto the characters in the story

OH I AM JUST LIKE SEPHIROTH FROM FF7 I TOO WAS INJECTED WITH SOME WEIRD STUFF i think anyway I WILL WRITE A FANFIC FROM "SEPHIROTH'S" POINT OF VIEW eventhoughhesoundsoutofcharacterwheniwritehim I AM INDEED SEPHIROTH
biomy is offline  
Old 2006-12-02, 21:00   Link #1049
Owaranai Destiny
Nick of Time~
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Guze no Sekai
Age: 27
Send a message via AIM to Owaranai Destiny Send a message via MSN to Owaranai Destiny
I don't see anything wrong with voicing one's opinions...Unless it goes as far as to directly attack a specific character alone. This is what forums are about-opinions. If there's any disagreement on your part, do it pertaining to the posts above in regards to that. *Off-topic* Fanfiction is exactly a expression of what a person thinks and wants to write about. Whether it's good or bad is up to the consistency of the canon characters' personalities, attitudes, the language and the grammar usage as well as a evenly paced story.

Pertaining to wontaek's post...

1.) You make some sense of the argument so far, but to wait is equivalent to giving Eri a slow death in this department. (THIS IS AN ASSUMPTION, SO DON'T GET ON MY CASE ABOUT THE REAL SR STORY OR WHATNOT) Assuming that she waits it out till college and give it a try. If we put it forth a little more seriously, we can't predict the future, and I doubt any of the characters in SR can. Does Eri know of the odds of Harima actually being successful in getting Tenma? Will she be entirely sure that Harima will actually be available if his heart gets broken?

Besides, it's exactly because she probably sees that there is something between Harima and Tenma (however one-sided it might be in actuality) that spurs her on to stiffen the competition. I don't know too much about her personality, but it certainly seems very Eri to get into the competition for something you desire, especially for the person you finally know you love.

2.) I don't have much pertaining to this, but either way we need to see more of Karasuma to determine whether a True Oudou (That's the faction...right?) path is the best for the couple. In the chapters I've read at least, Karasuma seems to be rather good for Tenma.

As ichigoismyhomie said though, Harima does have plenty of things in common with Tenma. The idea of having two crazy people together isn't half bad (imagine the quality of comedy when they actually go on a date), but it seems that Tenma doesn't really share the same kind of feelings for Harima thus far. The biggest hurdle is the Karasuma one for Harima, and I do believe the gradual but significant improvement in their relationship can actually be developed more.

3.) As for Yakumo...I have to admit that even though I see Harima as being the best for her, there are, in actuality, three real choices. Either she goes with Harima, or she goes with Hanai. The last option would be that she stays alone, rooting instead for her sister and/or Harima. We cannot simply turn a blind eye to the good friendship of Onigiri, regardless of whether readers out there don't wish to see any possible romantic implications between their interaction. It's viable-almost possible if not for the gloomy fact that she's been off the centrestage for quite long.

This is, however, one of the most undefined relationships in the pairings. We don't know what Harima is to Yakumo exactly, but we know that the latter is the 'little sister of the one he loves immensely'. Unless we get beyond that point, practically everything's guesswork and a few hints dropped here and there. In comparison to the depressingly huge amounts of development for both Flag and Oudou (Onigiristically speaking ), it isn't hard to see why so many people are skeptical about it (aside from some of them hardcore fans of other pairings with Harima in them, that is).
__________________
Owaranai Destiny is offline  
Old 2006-12-02, 23:43   Link #1050
wontaek
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Planet Earth
Age: 45
Quote:
Originally Posted by Owaranai Destiny View Post
I don't see anything wrong with voicing one's opinions...Unless it goes as far as to directly attack a specific character alone. This is what forums are about-opinions. If there's any disagreement on your part, do it pertaining to the posts above in regards to that. *Off-topic* Fanfiction is exactly a expression of what a person thinks and wants to write about. Whether it's good or bad is up to the consistency of the canon characters' personalities, attitudes, the language and the grammar usage as well as a evenly paced story.

Pertaining to wontaek's post...

1.) You make some sense of the argument so far, but to wait is equivalent to giving Eri a slow death in this department. (THIS IS AN ASSUMPTION, SO DON'T GET ON MY CASE ABOUT THE REAL SR STORY OR WHATNOT) Assuming that she waits it out till college and give it a try. If we put it forth a little more seriously, we can't predict the future, and I doubt any of the characters in SR can. Does Eri know of the odds of Harima actually being successful in getting Tenma? Will she be entirely sure that Harima will actually be available if his heart gets broken?

Besides, it's exactly because she probably sees that there is something between Harima and Tenma (however one-sided it might be in actuality) that spurs her on to stiffen the competition. I don't know too much about her personality, but it certainly seems very Eri to get into the competition for something you desire, especially for the person you finally know you love.

2.) I don't have much pertaining to this, but either way we need to see more of Karasuma to determine whether a True Oudou (That's the faction...right?) path is the best for the couple. In the chapters I've read at least, Karasuma seems to be rather good for Tenma.

As ichigoismyhomie said though, Harima does have plenty of things in common with Tenma. The idea of having two crazy people together isn't half bad (imagine the quality of comedy when they actually go on a date), but it seems that Tenma doesn't really share the same kind of feelings for Harima thus far. The biggest hurdle is the Karasuma one for Harima, and I do believe the gradual but significant improvement in their relationship can actually be developed more.

3.) As for Yakumo...I have to admit that even though I see Harima as being the best for her, there are, in actuality, three real choices. Either she goes with Harima, or she goes with Hanai. The last option would be that she stays alone, rooting instead for her sister and/or Harima. We cannot simply turn a blind eye to the good friendship of Onigiri, regardless of whether readers out there don't wish to see any possible romantic implications between their interaction. It's viable-almost possible if not for the gloomy fact that she's been off the centrestage for quite long.

This is, however, one of the most undefined relationships in the pairings. We don't know what Harima is to Yakumo exactly, but we know that the latter is the 'little sister of the one he loves immensely'. Unless we get beyond that point, practically everything's guesswork and a few hints dropped here and there. In comparison to the depressingly huge amounts of development for both Flag and Oudou (Onigiristically speaking ), it isn't hard to see why so many people are skeptical about it (aside from some of them hardcore fans of other pairings with Harima in them, that is).
1) What I can say with reasonable certainty is that we will see more of Eri and Harima, so something might happen.

2) If Karasuma also comes to the Shrimp party, I hoope something will happen, for good or ill.

3) I say the third option is best for Yakumo. I hope Akira makes her the tea club president which will make her become more assertive. Harima, although he respects Yakumo, will not change his thoughts about Yakumo unless Tenma marries Karasuma. Yakumo and the boys will benefit from growing up more and Yakumo is perfectly content without Hanai or Harima as long as Tenma and Sara is around her, so I don't see any harm to Yakumo for not pursuing any relationship until College. For Eri, you may be right that she can't afford to wait, but Yakumo might be better served by waiting.
__________________

Last edited by wontaek; 2006-12-03 at 01:51.
wontaek is offline  
Old 2006-12-03, 01:59   Link #1051
Calca
Expressionless
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Incognito
It seems to me the mangaka is running out of ways to get Eri and Harima to agree with one another.

Now he has to make it so Harima is literally insane to agree to go somewhere with her.
Calca is offline  
Old 2006-12-03, 15:32   Link #1052
saner
Member
 
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Basically, I don't understand your opinions, there was no interaction between Harima and Yakumo and Tenma, we don't know what is going on there. We don't know what they are doing and thinking, it is hard to predict what will happen between characters, because there is no development, Eri just become behave immature, you can say that is because she realised there isn't many school days left, but in my opinion the author has run out of ideas. He decided to write shorter chapters to be able to write something every week, and know he doesn't know how not to end this series too quick, because he has to make a lot of money.
saner is offline  
Old 2006-12-03, 17:04   Link #1053
Matt Soulblade
1000 times better
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Surrounded by Mistery (cool isn't?)
Im starting to get seriously annoyed by Harima
This is just getting nowhere, its not really fun anymore
Matt Soulblade is offline  
Old 2006-12-03, 20:21   Link #1054
Bamse
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
im still hoping for harima x eri
but i know what u mean :/
Bamse is offline  
Old 2006-12-03, 23:21   Link #1055
kauldron26
Med Student
 
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Age: 31
this just really isnt fun anymore... im always eager to dl and read, and then when im done i ask myself why?? and then curse at the heavens and the mangaka. I still dont understand how people can find stories that revolve around misunderstandings entertaining.... The sad thing is, ther further the manga goes, the less appreciation we have for its former greatness. SR season 1 had a 10/10 from me and then after seeing the horrible season 2, it dropped to an 8, and now reading the manga it drops to a 7 because all their past actions are essentially meaningless... but to each his own. im done.
__________________
Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent -- Ayn Rand/Terry Goodkind
kauldron26 is offline  
Old 2006-12-04, 14:15   Link #1056
Swampstorm
Lovestruck Fool?
*Fansubber
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Smile

I've created something that should help make things easier for some of you. Instead of typing out the same points every week, why not just copy and paste? It requires just as much thought as the old approach, unfortunately, but it does cut back on the number of key strokes needed. Remember to keep the spoiler tags in, so that the rest of us have the option of skipping over it.

Please.

Spoiler for SR Complaint Form:


Let me know if I've missed anything.

Quote:
Originally Posted by wontaek
I think we need to think the question in the other direction.

1. For Eri's sake, do you think Harima is a good guy for her or would she be more likely to be better off we some other random character? My suspicion is that she might find her life more enjoyable and productive we an average guy instead of Harima, whose is unique in many ways. Harima makes Eri embarass herself, not neccessary in good way, and prone to making her very angry, again not really a good thing. What he offers is a good experience for the young, but I would hesitate recommending building long lasting stable relationship based on that, so that is why I think it is better for Eri to not worry about 'boyfriend' thing until she goes to college. She would have plenty of time to worry about it, then, and by that time, She and Harima might have sufficiently changed for the better.

2. For Tenma's sake, who is the best guy for her? Although Harima do cares for her a lot, we shouldn't underestimate what goes on below the calm face of Karasuma. Karasuma offers much needed emotional stability to Tenma. Harima is very likely to create various turmoils with anyone around him; this is not neccessary bad for characters that needs to be shaken up, though. For her sake, and the sake of everyone around them, I hope Karasuma proposes to her before they graduate from high school.

3. For Yakumo's sake, who will be the best guy for her? In a sense, I think Harima had finished his job helping Yakumo grow. Unless there is drastic changes with Harima, there isn't much he can make Yakumo grow, so that may be the reason we seldom see Yakumo anymore. In contrast, Harima still is capable of inducing more changes in Eri, so we are going to see Eri more. Although Harima respects Yakumo, a rare thing for Harima who probably doesn't respect Tenma very much, Yakumo and Harima would gain much by becoming more mature and knowledgeable before engaging in any serious relationship. That is why I would recommend Yakumo to not worry about boys until her college days, similar to Eri. Although she is different from Eri, she also has rooms to grow so Eri, Yakumo, and Harima would benefit from more growth in solitude.

4. Mikoto: Asou AND Hanai is a good fit for her, in slight different ways. She is already a big girl, in some ways, so she should be fine unless something weird happens.

5. Akira: She doesn't need someone as her boyfriend, but if she desires one, Hanai seems to be best. Why she should want Hanai is a reason that's beyond me.

6. Yuuki: She likes Hanai, and Hanai isn't a bad fit for her. Whether it is Hanai or the Cameraman, she should be fine.

7. Karen: Imadori is not a good guy for her, yet. He has shown some good developements since he met Karen, so I am postponing any judgement.
The bulk of your post seems focused on what ought to happen. I’m much more interested in determining what will happen.

The reason why I’m sidestepping the former is because we don’t have a consistent way of deciding who is “best” for whom. You might decide that one relationship is better because it appears to be more stable and consistent. I might prefer another because it is more exciting and passionate. How can we find a standard that we can both agree on?

Remember the words with which the manga opens: “Love – What a mysterious word.” Given the unpredictable nature of these affairs, can we really decide who will be best for whom? More importantly - does it even matter, so long as they both love each other in the end? It’s not so much an issue of finding the perfect person so much as it is an issue of finding perfection in the person.

There might seem to be some contradiction in my words, given the fact that I point to love as being unpredictable on one hand, and yet claim that we can determine what "will" happen on the other. In order to resolve this, we need to treat SR as what it really is - as a story, rather than a set of real relationships.

In a story, the characters and their relationships exist for the purposes of our entertainment. While a pairing like Tanaka x Nagayama may be effective from a practical standpoint as a long term relationship due to its stability, it is ineffective at holding the focus of the story. As a matter of fact, the stability of the pairing actually works against it - in the absence of a conflict or crisis, there is no story. Granted, if you're a big fan of the pairing in question, watching twenty minutes of Tanaka and Nagayama holding hands may count as entertainment, but the rest of the audience is likely to lose interest.

A particular couple might be a complete disaster, for all practical purposes. It might be completely impossible, for all practical purposes. But if they entertain us, and if, against all odds and expectations, they manage to get together and build a stable relationship together...

...Well, isn't that part of the reason why we still read stories? Not to see something expected or practical happen, but rather, to see something unlikely, or even impossible, come true. The underdog does have a certain charm, after all.

A flag has been set.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Owaranai Destiny
1.) You make some sense of the argument so far, but to wait is equivalent to giving Eri a slow death in this department. (THIS IS AN ASSUMPTION, SO DON'T GET ON MY CASE ABOUT THE REAL SR STORY OR WHATNOT) Assuming that she waits it out till college and give it a try. If we put it forth a little more seriously, we can't predict the future, and I doubt any of the characters in SR can. Does Eri know of the odds of Harima actually being successful in getting Tenma? Will she be entirely sure that Harima will actually be available if his heart gets broken?
Aha! An assumption! In THE REAL SR STORY...

Sorry. I couldn't resist.

Oh, on a side note, I was very impressed by the mature manner in which Eri has been handling the whole Oudou fiasco as of late. In the first frame of this chapter, while she indicates that she is troubled, she doesn't seem to blame Tenma for what is happening.

It might just be me, but it seems like Eri's interactions with Harima are very much reminiscent of Tenma's interactions with Karasuma, in the early days of the series. I'm not just talking about Eri's reactions, but also in the way that she works at interpreting Harima's strange behavior. A cute chapter.
__________________
Swampstorm is offline  
Old 2006-12-04, 15:30   Link #1057
wontaek
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Planet Earth
Age: 45
Quote:
Originally Posted by Swampstorm View Post

It might just be me, but it seems like Eri's interactions with Harima are very much reminiscent of Tenma's interactions with Karasuma, in the early days of the series. I'm not just talking about Eri's reactions, but also in the way that she works at interpreting Harima's strange behavior. A cute chapter.
Very acute and interesting observation, Swampstorm. I realize that this parallel could have only come from a design that was in place for at least last couple of month. If this parallel is to be taken further, Eri may start giving Harima some ideas for his new manga series; this is the fastest way to Harima's heart. In this mode, I guess Akira or Sara has to play the role of the fortune teller: " Which do you like more, manga or I? "
__________________
wontaek is offline  
Old 2006-12-04, 17:22   Link #1058
saner
Member
 
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Swampstorm, no matter what will happen in SR you will love it forever. I wonder what I can write positive about SR? I wouldn't complain if this series were as good as it used to be.
saner is offline  
Old 2006-12-04, 17:44   Link #1059
ichigoismyhomie
ichigo's homie
 
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: da great state of kalipornyaaah
lol.....i would check every single points on that complaint form....
__________________
currently watching: bleach, Claymore...I'm trying to quit watching anime.....2 more series to go...then I'm done
ichigoismyhomie is offline  
Old 2006-12-04, 19:16   Link #1060
kauldron26
Med Student
 
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Age: 31
with the way the mangaka has been brutally raping this series, im actually becoming more curious about how much money his making by beating the dead horse that is SR than the characters. I hope its worth it... what do u guys think?? being able to turn in a glorious amount of 6 - 7 pages of absolutely nothing must be paying well...
__________________
Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent -- Ayn Rand/Terry Goodkind
kauldron26 is offline  
Closed Thread

Tags
hige, ojou, school

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:09.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
We use Silk.