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Old 2006-06-23, 16:01   Link #121
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http://www.zeonic-republic.net/ms_ig...episode02.html
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「では、人間は、何故、戦うのか?
戦うことに存在意義があるのかもしれない。
戦っている人間には充実感がある。
そして、戦っている人間が汚れて見えないのも事実だ」

So why do people fight, anyway?
Perhaps the meaning of existence lies within their will to fight.
People feel a sense of accomplishment through battle.
And itís also a fact that the ones actually fighting are never perceived as being tainted.
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Old 2006-06-23, 19:14   Link #122
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I don't need motion and English to tell what happens there...
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Old 2006-06-23, 20:30   Link #123
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lol... Some nice Ball action there... Something we haven't seen in Gundam since the 1st ep of 08th MS team.

Though was the outcome any surprising? Nope.
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Old 2006-06-24, 00:36   Link #124
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just finished watching the whole vid, awesome stuff. but it makes u wonder what that last "unit" will be when the engineer guy at the end was like "what the hell is that...."

and about the chick, i think she's gonna play a big role in the final ova. i can't wait!
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Old 2006-06-24, 00:51   Link #125
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You gotta love those scenes in war scenarios where both combatants have run out of ammunition and resort to other "barbaric" means
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Old 2006-06-24, 06:44   Link #126
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Though was the outcome any surprising? Nope.

Actually it was...

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戦っている人間には充実感がある。
そして、戦っている人間が汚れて見えないのも事実だ」

So why do people fight, anyway?
Perhaps the meaning of existence lies within their will to fight.
People feel a sense of accomplishment through battle.
And itís also a fact that the ones actually fighting are never perceived as being tainted.
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Old 2006-06-24, 14:18   Link #127
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Watched ep 2 of apocalypse 0079. Glad to see that they put all those older OVA designs (GM Type C from 0083, Ball K from 08th ms). waiting next episode with excitement.
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Old 2006-06-24, 15:00   Link #128
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Honestly, I must admit that the episode suprisied me, as, despite the formulamatic way the IGLOO stories are done, they still manage to pull a few punches that caught me off guard. In this case, focusing on the young cadets that Zeon was using during the battle of Aboaqu was a very good idea. This was alluded to in the original Gundam series, but never shown much in direct detail.

Also, they caught me off guard... while I more or less expected her brother to die, for a split second I thought they were actually going to let him off the hook until the Salimis class ships entered the scene.

Overall, another good episode. I can't wait til the final one...
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Old 2006-06-24, 15:38   Link #129
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just finished watching the whole vid, awesome stuff. but it makes u wonder what that last "unit" will be when the engineer guy at the end was like "what the hell is that...."
It's the BIG-RANG and you can bet its huge when it has a Bigro as its head.
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Old 2006-06-24, 16:00   Link #130
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It's the BIG-RANG and you can bet its huge when it has a Bigro as its head.
that thing looks sweet ^_^

i too thought for a second that the kid would get off the hook but alas, it didn't happen
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Old 2006-06-24, 17:12   Link #131
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Translation courtesy of Google:

"It appeared in the [a] [baoa] Kuu battlefield as a 忽 way the enormous mobile armor of the fuselage color which designates “red” as keynote. It was built by the MIP corporation to 1 year war mid term to adopt “MA-05 [biguro]” to the unit which forms the core of the [bigu] lung, it constitutes. Furthermore, “Ad” of model number means “Ammunition Depot” (the bullet equipment replenishment factory)."

It makes it's own ammunition?!
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Old 2006-06-24, 19:49   Link #132
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Actually it was...

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Bah... I was expecting this exact ending when I read that Monique's brother would be featured in this ep from the website, what, 3, 4 months ago?

I agree that its a good ep... But they really should have at least let a pilot survive an episode in which he is introduced in.
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Old 2006-06-24, 20:41   Link #133
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"It appeared in the [a] [baoa] Kuu battlefield as a 忽 way the enormous mobile armor of the fuselage color which designates “red” as keynote. It was built by the MIP corporation to 1 year war mid term to adopt “MA-05 [biguro]” to the unit which forms the core of the [bigu] lung, it constitutes. Furthermore, “Ad” of model number means “Ammunition Depot” (the bullet equipment replenishment factory)."

It makes it's own ammunition?!
I think it just means it stores a large amount of ammunition to replenish its weaponry.

Though eitherway, that means that thing is one giant bomb. All that ordinance is spells trouble.

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Bah... I was expecting this exact ending when I read that Monique's brother would be featured in this ep from the website, what, 3, 4 months ago?
THat's always been the trend. It's basically a "Monster of the week" that gets killed.

As someone noted awhile ago, "So...what metal coffin will that guy be dying in?"
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Old 2006-06-24, 21:05   Link #134
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Does somebody always have to die with igLoo?
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Old 2006-06-24, 21:16   Link #135
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THat's always been the trend. It's basically a "Monster of the week" that gets killed.

As someone noted awhile ago, "So...what metal coffin will that guy be dying in?"
I know. But the question is, why doesn't it break out of that mold? The good or interesting episodes of a typical "monster of the week" show is typically those that bring someone back, or those that introduce a recurring "monster".
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Old 2006-06-24, 23:32   Link #136
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Well considering that it is a small series of incidents spread out over the course of a year, it would be hard to break out without turning it into it's own full series.
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Old 2006-06-25, 17:21   Link #137
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I know. But the question is, why doesn't it break out of that mold? The good or interesting episodes of a typical "monster of the week" show is typically those that bring someone back, or those that introduce a recurring "monster".
Well it's been turning into Pyrrhic victories (Or in cases like that Serpent cannon). Most of the fights Zeon have won but at the cost of these " monster of the week" guys.

The last episode involves the final battle so I suppose they HAVE to break this pyrrhic trend by having not just the monster losing but Zeon losing.
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Old 2006-06-25, 20:31   Link #138
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Well it's been turning into Pyrrhic victories (Or in cases like that Serpent cannon). Most of the fights Zeon have won but at the cost of these " monster of the week" guys.
Is that really true though? Ever since Ep 3 of THOYW, Zeon has been on the losing side of the war, and the desperation of their situations have been pretty clear... The fall of Odessa and the Jaburo stuff of last ep were signs that Zeon were losing. So yes, they succeeded in their missions (and losing pilots along the way), but on the whole, Zeon has been losing nevertheless. The fact that they are introducing yet another new mobile weapon next ep seems to indicate that we'll indeed get another one of these "monster-of-the-week" episode (with maybe the Big Rang actually completing its mission before getting blown up), with Zeon's surrender serving to end the Jotunheim's missions.
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Old 2006-06-26, 00:14   Link #139
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Is that really true though? Ever since Ep 3 of THOYW, Zeon has been on the losing side of the war, and the desperation of their situations have been pretty clear... The fall of Odessa and the Jaburo stuff of last ep were signs that Zeon were losing. So yes, they succeeded in their missions (and losing pilots along the way), but on the whole, Zeon has been losing nevertheless. The fact that they are introducing yet another new mobile weapon next ep seems to indicate that we'll indeed get another one of these "monster-of-the-week" episode (with maybe the Big Rang actually completing its mission before getting blown up), with Zeon's surrender serving to end the Jotunheim's missions.
Well when I meant Pyrrhic victory for Zeon I was pointing specifically to the situations the Jotuheim crew was thrown under. Maybe I should've rephrased it.
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Old 2006-06-26, 05:47   Link #140
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Well when I meant Pyrrhic victory for Zeon I was pointing specifically to the situations the Jotuheim crew was thrown under. Maybe I should've rephrased it.
Yeah, I know. But like I said, what's to say that the Big Rang wouldn't have a "Pyrrhic victory" for Zeon too? That doesn't mean that Zeon itself wouldn't lose.

So my point is that they don't "HAVE" to break the trend in the final ep... Though I sure wish they do.
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