AnimeSuki Forums

Register Forum Rules FAQ Members List Social Groups Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   AnimeSuki Forum > Anime Related Topics > Games

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 2010-06-03, 19:11   Link #2241
Who
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: NY, USA
Age: 23
Wow, Terran are taking a huge nerf bat to the face.

Quote:
StarCraft II Beta – Patch 15 (version 0.17.0.15623)

The latest patch notes can always be found at
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html...49316&sid=5000

General


•Improved the system that handles initial placement and promotion/relegation between Leagues & Ladders.

Balance Changes

•TERRAN


•Hellion


•Weapon upgrade bonus decreased from 1(+1 Light) to 1.


•Reaper


•Nitro Packs research cost decreased from 100/100 to 50/50.


•Siege Tank


•Siege Mode damage decreased from 60 to 50.


•Thor


•Anti-air weapon upgrade bonus decreased from 1(+1 Light) to 1.

•ZERG


•Brood Lord


•Weapon upgrade bonus decreased from 3 to 2.

Bug Fixes


•Resolved an issue with publishing maps in non-English locales.
Who is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-06-03, 22:30   Link #2242
Vallen Chaos Valiant
Logician and Romantic
 
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Within my mind
Age: 33
Quote:
Originally Posted by Who View Post
Wow, Terran are taking a huge nerf bat to the face.
Just your usual attempt to weaken Terran Synergy. Without dark swarm, Terran Ball is more deadly than usual.
__________________
Vallen Chaos Valiant is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-06-03, 22:34   Link #2243
Archon_Wing
Hater
*Author
 
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Being totally ebillll
Age: 30
Send a message via MSN to Archon_Wing
Decent changes overall.
__________________
You just try again... through the darkness.You just go away... the future is waiting for us!
Avatar and Sig courtesy of TheEroKing
Guild Wars 2 SN: ArchonWing.9480 (Stormbluff Isle)
MyAnimeList || Reviews
Archon_Wing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-06-03, 22:36   Link #2244
felix
sleepyhead
*Author
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: event horizon
Quote:
Originally Posted by Who View Post
Wow, Terran are taking a huge nerf bat to the face.
Its not that bad. And the Nitro Pack upgrade change is a buff.
__________________
felix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-06-03, 22:39   Link #2245
Who
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: NY, USA
Age: 23
Oh I never said it was bad. It was just surprising but I guess I should've seen it coming.
Who is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-06-03, 23:45   Link #2246
ddwkc
Lone Wolf
 
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Brazil
Send a message via MSN to ddwkc
They should change the "auto-aim" of the tank.
__________________
Eo tempore, cum tibi occuri,
Mihi vita laeta fuit,
Cum autem te nusquam conspexi,
Eo tempore mortem cognovi
ddwkc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-06-05, 09:31   Link #2247
Jazzrat
Bearly Legal
 
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Looks fairly reasonable changes for terran considering the state of the affected units in play recently ( Thor is a frigging AA monster )
__________________
Jazzrat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-06-05, 19:44   Link #2248
gummybear
MUDKIP MUD!
 
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Beside a road, next to a tree
Quote:
Originally Posted by brocko View Post
HuskyStarcraft puts it best.

C'mon Blizzard, don't start dropping the ball now. There's still time to pick yourself back up before it's too late.
I blame Activision, they are the ones that started the whole idea to drop lan :P
IMO, SC2 and D3 will tank if they continue to temper with Blizzard with these shit.
Actvision just a bunch of greedy dumbasses that want to pass as much cost and expenses to the players as they can. Chatting cost money so they cut chats, proper game hosting so they make it so that you can only join games like a shooter. What's next? fixing the game cost money so they make us pay to DL patches?!?
gummybear is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-06-06, 11:20   Link #2249
SaintessHeart
Ehh? EEEEHHHHHH?
 
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Age: 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by gummybear View Post
I blame Activision, they are the ones that started the whole idea to drop lan :P
IMO, SC2 and D3 will tank if they continue to temper with Blizzard with these shit.
Actvision just a bunch of greedy dumbasses that want to pass as much cost and expenses to the players as they can. Chatting cost money so they cut chats, proper game hosting so they make it so that you can only join games like a shooter. What's next? fixing the game cost money so they make us pay to DL patches?!?
This is their way of reacting to the environment where gamehackers are rife. Obviously they couldn't outwit the hackers (some of them have been hacking for longer than most of the programmers in the game companies!), so they just "blame the gamers" for making them lose stock price.

Kotick may be bringing the company further away from bankruptcy, but for how long? He just appease the shareholders by controlling game titles, soon another game company will come up and eat up Activision.

He needs to learn how the market runs. At least Steam adapted with digital downloads to preserve their dedicated servers.
__________________

When three puppygirls named after pastries are on top of each other, it is called Eclair a'la menthe et Biscotti aux fraises avec beaucoup de Ricotta sur le dessus.
Most of all, you have to be disciplined and you have to save, even if you hate our current financial system. Because if you don't save, then you're guaranteed to end up with nothing.
SaintessHeart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-06-06, 22:04   Link #2250
Archon_Wing
Hater
*Author
 
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Being totally ebillll
Age: 30
Send a message via MSN to Archon_Wing
Beta is going on hiatus tomorrow; enjoy it when you still can!
__________________
You just try again... through the darkness.You just go away... the future is waiting for us!
Avatar and Sig courtesy of TheEroKing
Guild Wars 2 SN: ArchonWing.9480 (Stormbluff Isle)
MyAnimeList || Reviews
Archon_Wing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-06-06, 23:12   Link #2251
Ithekro
Warning
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Republic of California
Age: 37
I'm hoping that signals the start of the Warcraft's Cataclysm Beta.
__________________
Dessler Soto, Banzai! Signature by ganbaru
Rena's Saimoe Take Home List 2014: Dairenji Suzuka.Misawa Maho.
Ithekro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-06-07, 11:22   Link #2252
Sugetsu
Kurumada's lost child
 
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
The point is that all the new measures taken in SC2 recently are just to combat piracy. But they don't understand that all security codes can be cracked. They are going to see their "no Lan unless you are on internet" feature completely redone by hackers.

All that they are accomplishing by stepping up security in the game is to aggravate their fan base and drive away sales of the product. All for nothing since cracks for all the security will come out sooner than later.

Also having to pay for 3 campaigns is quite rip off no matter how cheap each of them are. It is just blatant attempt to milk the players out of their money. They are not expansions, it is just a game split into 3 parts.

The sad thing is to see when great companies that start out full of passion and have a clear vision of they want to go, end up completely in the opposite side of their desired destination. The culprit is often greed and avarice. All they do is shot themselves in the foot.

I for one, will not be buying SC2 but download it off a torrent site instead. There will be tons of servers and BNET 2.0 Cracks out there soon enough.
Sugetsu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-06-07, 11:40   Link #2253
LoweGear
Device Meister
*Graphic Designer
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: 3 times the passion of the usual flamenco
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sugetsu View Post

Also having to pay for 3 campaigns is quite rip off no matter how cheap each of them are. It is just blatant attempt to milk the players out of their money. They are not expansions, it is just a game split into 3 parts.
And who are we to say what's an expansion and what is not? There are expansion packs out there that add nothing more than a few items here and there, and yet charged at full price. Starcraft 2's expansion packs Heart of the Swarm and Legacy of the Void will each have 30 missions, the same length as the Wings of Liberty Campaign. And of course, each of these will add new units and mechanics much like other Blizzard expansion packs like Diablo II: Lord of Destruction, Starcraft: Brood War or Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne before them. They'll definitely qualify as expansions, if not more.

Also, there are many games that have campaigns strung out over separate expansion packs over several years, like with the Dawn of War series, where in the original game only the Space Marines had a campaign, and the others only gained their own campaigns after they had to cut corners on several aspects (like Dark Crusade and Soulstorm campaigns essentially being a non-linear series of glorified AI skirmish battles reusing maps from the multiplayer map selection). And yet I don't see anyone railing on Relic for their decisions.

Now had Blizzard decided that you needed to buy Heart of the Swarm to play the Zerg and buy Legacy of the Void to play Protoss in multiplayer, then maybe THAT's splitting the game into three parts. And yet from everything we know, Starcraft 2: Wings of Liberty is going to be shipping as a complete game, single-player campaign, multiplayer functionality, and including the Galaxy Editor and all.

Just because they announced having expanions in the early stage doesn't mean they're "splitting the game". Afterall, many of the units in Brood War were actually already developed by Blizzard before the original Starcraft came out (like the Valkyrie, albeit in a different role and function). Yet I don't here anyone complaining about that.
__________________

On Simple Solutions: "I bought the airline. It seemed neater."
LoweGear is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-06-07, 13:39   Link #2254
SoldierOfDarkness
The Dark Knight
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: From the deepest abyss in the world, where you think?
Age: 28
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sugetsu View Post
The point is that all the new measures taken in SC2 recently are just to combat piracy. But they don't understand that all security codes can be cracked. They are going to see their "no Lan unless you are on internet" feature completely redone by hackers.

All that they are accomplishing by stepping up security in the game is to aggravate their fan base and drive away sales of the product. All for nothing since cracks for all the security will come out sooner than later.

Also having to pay for 3 campaigns is quite rip off no matter how cheap each of them are. It is just blatant attempt to milk the players out of their money. They are not expansions, it is just a game split into 3 parts.

The sad thing is to see when great companies that start out full of passion and have a clear vision of they want to go, end up completely in the opposite side of their desired destination. The culprit is often greed and avarice. All they do is shot themselves in the foot.

I for one, will not be buying SC2 but download it off a torrent site instead. There will be tons of servers and BNET 2.0 Cracks out there soon enough.
Never understood why it's so breathtaking to claim to the world you'll be pirating/stealing/illegally copying something. It's not like anyone here is claiming whose better.

Though when these developers eventually start putting these games onto consoles then what? Like Gears of War/Halo they no longer put them on PC but on Consoles to prevent piracy.

I do not see the issue with the expansions though. They are literally making each one have full 30 missions with story and such. All 3 races are playable with the first game in MP. The others will really just be adding in the next chapter. to the story.
SoldierOfDarkness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-06-07, 15:31   Link #2255
gummybear
MUDKIP MUD!
 
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Beside a road, next to a tree
you can pirate console games
it's not about priacy, it's an excuse, hell there are tons of p servers out there for WoW and yet blizzard still make 160M+ per month and it only cost them 400M to make a run the entire thing for 4 years.
Actvistion is just being pants-on-head-retarded greedy about their games. doesn't matter, if they fall, it will give a chance for other companies to step up

Last edited by gummybear; 2010-06-07 at 16:02.
gummybear is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-06-07, 16:03   Link #2256
Xacual
The color of a Hero
 
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
It always amuses me when people quote numbers for WoW when there is no information on how much it all costs. I do know that the money blizz makes from WoW goes back into their developing of other games like starcraft 2 and diablo 3 and the wow expansions. Saying they make 160 million and then only pay 400 million every 4 years is just a tad too exaggerated.
__________________
Xacual is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-06-07, 16:08   Link #2257
gummybear
MUDKIP MUD!
 
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Beside a road, next to a tree
they put out the numbers, I am just writing what I read from their interviews last year
excuses is always there, but at the end it is still their fault for bad choices

Last edited by gummybear; 2010-06-07 at 16:21.
gummybear is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-06-07, 16:31   Link #2258
felix
sleepyhead
*Author
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: event horizon
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xacual View Post
Saying they make 160 million and then only pay 400 million every 4 years is just a tad too exaggerated.
Uh? 344.88 M profit in 2008 (FY)
__________________
felix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-06-07, 16:59   Link #2259
SoldierOfDarkness
The Dark Knight
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: From the deepest abyss in the world, where you think?
Age: 28
Quote:
Originally Posted by gummybear View Post
you can pirate console games
:
I know but piracy on consoles doesn't seem to register in their minds but I think it's more on the lines that they can control it better than on PC but I'm no expert on the matter.

I mean I've read articles from devs where they talk about not porting to PC because of piracy but leave it on xbox, etc. If they had a choice they'd all go for consoles.
SoldierOfDarkness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-06-07, 17:15   Link #2260
Jazzrat
Bearly Legal
 
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sugetsu View Post
I for one, will not be buying SC2 but download it off a torrent site instead. There will be tons of servers and BNET 2.0 Cracks out there soon enough.
That sounds like a lame excuse for pirating . Anyway, the lack of LAN doesnt really bother me that much anymore as I'll end up playing over the internet and private server have tendencies to attract cheaters and idiots.
__________________
Jazzrat is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
blizzard, rts, starcraft, windows

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 19:24.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
We use Silk.