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Old 2004-12-20, 23:41   Link #1
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Mobile Dolls In Destiny

What are the chance of AI controlled Mobile Suits (Wing Gundam) making an appearance in Destiny?
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Old 2004-12-20, 23:51   Link #2
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Old 2004-12-21, 00:27   Link #3
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Hahaha...the MD's from Gundam Wing wasn't so bad...i think they were pretty cool...well the concept anyway...

Altho i'm surprised the ZAFT haven't gotten something similar by now...umm...MD ZAKU's...well...i suppose there are worse things than that
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Old 2004-12-21, 00:34   Link #4
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With the N-jammer it would be a pain in the ass to control and coordinate with such units, and LOS (line of sight) communications are limited in the number of units they can contact at once.
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Old 2004-12-21, 01:20   Link #5
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But it doesn't matter if there is LOS or loss of commuications tho...i mean you just need to program the AI to check the IFF of its target, and if it doesn't check out the AI can automatically assign as a target and attack...

Admitedly, it would be better for each MD to work together like they did in Gundam Wing, but they still should be able to function as single units each with their own targets and etc...
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Old 2004-12-21, 01:36   Link #6
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With the N-jammer it would be a pain in the ass to control and coordinate with such units, and LOS (line of sight) communications are limited in the number of units they can contact at once.
What does N-jammers have to do with communications?

Well, since MS are limited by the peace treaty, maybe MDs can be a loophole to it.
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Old 2004-12-21, 02:11   Link #7
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What are the chance of AI controlled Mobile Suits (Wing Gundam) making an appearance in Destiny?
Well, I hope not!

But its possible...

plant have much less population then EA...
So if they suffered massive losses..they might just do that..

On the other hand..They might just also just created thousands of new soldiers using artificial womb and then accelarate their growth.
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Old 2004-12-21, 05:38   Link #8
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Well, I hope not!

But its possible...

plant have much less population then EA...
So if they suffered massive losses..they might just do that..

On the other hand..They might just also just created thousands of new soldiers using artificial womb and then accelarate their growth.
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Old 2004-12-21, 06:18   Link #9
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What does N-jammers have to do with communications?
it does make those signaling, communication and stuff weaker

according to seed ep24..........
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Old 2004-12-21, 07:13   Link #10
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What does N-jammers have to do with communications?
according to gundamofficil
http://www.gundamofficial.com/worlds...y.html#njammer
N-Jammer jams radio waves too... so I guess that's why they use quantum communication with laser.
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Old 2004-12-21, 07:59   Link #11
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I dont mind .

They can make a really cool battle scene with one side dominating the other with Mobile Dolls. Then all of a sudden the inferior side managed to hack into the control systems of the other side and control their Mobile Dolls, hence reverting the situation.

That'll be cool.
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Old 2004-12-21, 10:11   Link #12
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If that happens i'll condamn the person who came up with the idea...wars are only beautiful and meaningful if the tears and blood of the ppl fighting for their beliefs are shed........

P.S. Traize sure made an impression on me......he can replace Jibrill anytime as a better leader in my opinion...at least he has honour
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Old 2004-12-21, 10:19   Link #13
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In GW MD's had a symbolic purpose, so seeing it in GSD will have no meaning and just be repetitive.
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Old 2004-12-21, 13:30   Link #14
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If that happens i'll condamn the person who came up with the idea...wars are only beautiful and meaningful if the tears and blood of the ppl fighting for their beliefs are shed........

P.S. Traize sure made an impression on me......he can replace Jibrill anytime as a better leader in my opinion...at least he has honour

I agree Traize is one of those BadGuys that you just cant help but to love..
Hes cool, Hes not completely Evil, And he fights alongside his warriors and die along with them.
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Old 2004-12-21, 13:35   Link #15
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In GW MD's had a symbolic purpose, so seeing it in GSD will have no meaning and just be repetitive.
I don't see why such little details would be seen as "repetitive" since so many elements in GSD has been "borrowed" from Zeta, ZZ, a few other gundam shows, and even Macross. And of course, the entire storyline of GSD so far has been a near mirror image of the 9/11, and the War on Terror.

Besides, if the Earth Federation or ZAFT is willing to use computerized mobile suits, that could have some meaning, as in the way either side may be willing to go to extreme lengths in order to win the war. It sure won't have the same impact as it did in Gundam Wing obviously.

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Old 2004-12-21, 14:07   Link #16
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If that happens i'll condamn the person who came up with the idea...wars are only beautiful and meaningful if the tears and blood of the ppl fighting for their beliefs are shed........

P.S. Traize sure made an impression on me......he can replace Jibrill anytime as a better leader in my opinion...at least he has honour
the objective of a war is to get your own side shed as little tear and blood as possible while defeating the enemies. That's why the US troops use cruise missiles and coordinated bomb attacks, and that's the idea of zero-casualty warfare. wars are not fought for beauty or some deep philosophical meanings, wars are fought to crush the enemies and win. IMHO Treize's way of treating wars as some artwork/sports is just a sign of insanity and stupidity.
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Old 2004-12-21, 14:28   Link #17
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I don't see why such little details would be seen as "repetitive" since so many elements in GSD has been "borrowed" from Zeta, ZZ, a few other gundam shows, and even Macross. And of course, the entire storyline of GSD so far has been a near mirror image of the 9/11, and the War on Terror.

Besides, if the Earth Federation or ZAFT is willing to use computerized mobile suits, that could have some meaning, as in the way either side may be willing to go to extreme lengths in order to win the war. It sure won't have the same impact as it did in Gundam Wing obviously.
Well Mobile Dolls(Man vs Machine) were as much big a theme in GW like Genetic Modifications(Coordinators vs Naturals) were in SEED. If they really put mobile dolls in GSD for no reason it really wouldn't make sense. Yeah they copied a lot of stuff from MSG like NTs and Zakus but because I think they're trying to pay tribute to the older series.
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Old 2004-12-21, 15:36   Link #18
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Since the Newtype concept is making a comeback as well, I wouldnt dismiss the idea of mobile dolls entirely.
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Old 2004-12-21, 20:08   Link #19
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I don't see why such little details would be seen as "repetitive" since so many elements in GSD has been "borrowed" from Zeta, ZZ, a few other gundam shows, and even Macross. And of course, the entire storyline of GSD so far has been a near mirror image of the 9/11, and the War on Terror.
Wow, looks like I wasn't the only one who was wondering about that...

Terrorists attacked Earth, destroying famous landmarks and killing many people.
Terrorists attacked USA, destroying famous landmarks and killing many people.

President of the Atlantic Union spoke from the White House.
President of the United States spoke from the White House.

Entire planet put down their differences and united in face of crisis. (although I'm pretty sure the PLANT-aligned ones like the Oceania Union didn't...)
Entire nation actually gave a damn for once and united in face of crisis.

EA invades PLANT, who had nothing to do with the terrorists.
USA invades Iraq, who had nothing to do with the terrorists. (well, I guess Afghanistan doesn't really work in this case)

Of course, everything's pretty generic... so whether this was done on purpose, (i.e. they ran out of story ideas and CNN happened to be on TV) or just a pure coincidence, it's hard to say.
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Old 2004-12-21, 21:25   Link #20
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i believe fukuda did mention in some interview that he wanted the story of GSD to run parallel with some of the world's current problems..
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