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Old 2012-12-30, 11:44   Link #2401
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Chapter 218
1. the Earl actually forgot who Mana is, I guess that's why Mana still can survive 30+ years.
2. Allen and Earl fuses together
3. The person Road's holding. Some people here and other website say its mana but I'm not sure about it and I do not think so as the person looks like a lady from that panel.
4. The person spying behind the door. Someone here mentioned its Bookman which I think its probably the case because he did had a Bookman stare IMO and its 35 years ago.
5. Earl saying "Mana D Campbell", does it mean Mana's true name is Mana D Campbell since Mana and Nea are in Campbell family stated in chp 214. But that's also the page which I loved the most in this chapter.

Some people here and other website says Allen does not lool like Allen but I'm not sure about it and I think its still Allen because he seems like he does not understand the flashback. If its Nea, he most likely knows it.
And the last page, Earl finally remember Mana. Also some people here and other website says the Earl calling Allen 'Mana' but I do not that's the case as the Earl just remember who Mana is since he forgotten Mana.
1. The fight with Nea could have have coursed him to have memory lose and only started to remember when Allen was turning into the 14th.
2. It didn't look like they fused it more looked like his memorys sync with Allens.
3. I also thought that but stuck with Mana as it seem to most fitting or it could well be Nea and Mana's mother.
4. Didn't think it could be bookman. I was thinking it was Earl or their Nea & Mana uncle who could be the Earl. They also had a beard which looks like the Human Earls beard.
5. I agree that it could well be Mana full name or he could have been referring to Nea and Mana mother.

I agree that the last 2 page was clearly Allen body but with Nea taking control because of the whole shouting Mana's name and then his mother and then Mana name and showing his picture. I also found that strange why would Earl call Allen "Mana". Could this well have something to do with Mana giving the Allen his scar? As it could have been a way to stop Allen from turning into the 14th or stopping his memories from coming up.
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That would be chapter 215.
Thank you. So that chapter and the current one pretty much says that Allen has none of Nea's memories and seeing how he is turning into the 14th one would assume the Noah's memorys would also start to come into his head. As so far we have only had one or two of Nea's memorties/ dreams. I wonder who is the person that holds Nea's memories? Which seem to be the key to something in regards to the other Noah's. Also I going to assume that that memory would have been when Nea was fighing Earl and the rest of the Noah's.

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At this point in the manga, I've become so confused it feels like whenever I'm reading a chapter I'm just going over the pictures and gathering any bits of the story I actually understand. So to be sure, was the scene where road had that body/person in her arms a flashback? And who exactly was that? Finally, who was the guy that seemed mad as hell?
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So...the one Road was holding is Mana? And the dark figure is Nea or the Earl?
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Some chapters ago when Allen accidentally summoned we saw a guy appearing to be young Mana. He was crying at Allen and said "You must hate me Nea, right?" I guess Mana did something terrible to Nea.
Didn't anyone read what I had said? The guy with the long back hair was MANA. If you want some kind of confirmation then my last comment would have the chapter and pages. The memories that are shown in chapter 218 was most likely of the Earl's and not of Nea. Because if it was Nea then why would it show the cornfield. The dark figure could well be Nea when he had been turned into a Noah. Thus it could be why it was shaded out and Road being there holding Mana. Or that part could well have been Nea already a Noah and killed all the other Noahs other then Road and Earl and the reason why Road was holding onto Mana like that was because she didn't want Nea to kill Mana. But instead of Killing Mana he takes him away and goes on the run as it has been said that what had happened when Nea killing the other Noah.
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Old 2012-12-30, 12:34   Link #2402
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Didn't anyone read what I had said? The guy with the long back hair was MANA. If you want some kind of confirmation then my last comment would have the chapter and pages. The memories that are shown in chapter 218 was most likely of the Earl's and not of Nea. Because if it was Nea then why would it show the cornfield. The dark figure could well be Nea when he had been turned into a Noah. Thus it could be why it was shaded out and Road being there holding Mana. Or that part could well have been Nea already a Noah and killed all the other Noahs other then Road and Earl and the reason why Road was holding onto Mana like that was because she didn't want Nea to kill Mana. But instead of Killing Mana he takes him away and goes on the run as it has been said that what had happened when Nea killing the other Noah.
Now everything makes more sense, thanks. So I think the Earl in the past considered Mana to be the reason Nea was acting a bit strange, so the earl killed Mana and Nea's mother, which caused Nea to kill all the noahs (except road and the earl) and take Mana and escape. So basically the Earl blames Mana for the previous Noah's death and Nea's betrayal as well.
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Old 2012-12-30, 13:23   Link #2403
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Didn't anyone read what I had said? The guy with the long back hair was MANA. If you want some kind of confirmation then my last comment would have the chapter and pages. The memories that are shown in chapter 218 was most likely of the Earl's and not of Nea. Because if it was Nea then why would it show the cornfield. The dark figure could well be Nea when he had been turned into a Noah. Thus it could be why it was shaded out and Road being there holding Mana. Or that part could well have been Nea already a Noah and killed all the other Noahs other then Road and Earl and the reason why Road was holding onto Mana like that was because she didn't want Nea to kill Mana. But instead of Killing Mana he takes him away and goes on the run as it has been said that what had happened when Nea killing the other Noah.
And that's exactly what I said....just looking for some confirmation. No need to get so worked up
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Old 2012-12-30, 14:07   Link #2404
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Now everything makes more sense, thanks. So I think the Earl in the past considered Mana to be the reason Nea was acting a bit strange, so the earl killed Mana and Nea's mother, which caused Nea to kill all the noahs (except road and the earl) and take Mana and escape. So basically the Earl blames Mana for the previous Noah's death and Nea's betrayal as well.
That could also work. Still it makes me wonder why Mana was saying sorry to Nea and why did he asked Allen/Nea if he hated Mana. Also was it said that Nea and Earl fought each other to see who would become the next Earl? As I can't remember.

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And that's exactly what I said....just looking for some confirmation. No need to get so worked up
Ah okays. Sorry if it seemed like I was getting worked up about it.
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Old 2012-12-30, 14:11   Link #2405
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1. The fight with Nea could have have coursed him to have memory lose and only started to remember when Allen was turning into the 14th.
2. It didn't look like they fused it more looked like his memorys sync with Allens.
3. I also thought that but stuck with Mana as it seem to most fitting or it could well be Nea and Mana's mother.
4. Didn't think it could be bookman. I was thinking it was Earl or their Nea & Mana uncle who could be the Earl. They also had a beard which looks like the Human Earls beard.
5. I agree that it could well be Mana full name or he could have been referring to Nea and Mana mother.

I agree that the last 2 page was clearly Allen body but with Nea taking control because of the whole shouting Mana's name and then his mother and then Mana name and showing his picture. I also found that strange why would Earl call Allen "Mana". Could this well have something to do with Mana giving the Allen his scar? As it could have been a way to stop Allen from turning into the 14th or stopping his memories from coming up.


Thank you. So that chapter and the current one pretty much says that Allen has none of Nea's memories and seeing how he is turning into the 14th one would assume the Noah's memorys would also start to come into his head. As so far we have only had one or two of Nea's memorties/ dreams. I wonder who is the person that holds Nea's memories? Which seem to be the key to something in regards to the other Noah's. Also I going to assume that that memory would have been when Nea was fighing Earl and the rest of the Noah's.







Didn't anyone read what I had said? The guy with the long back hair was MANA. If you want some kind of confirmation then my last comment would have the chapter and pages. The memories that are shown in chapter 218 was most likely of the Earl's and not of Nea. Because if it was Nea then why would it show the cornfield. The dark figure could well be Nea when he had been turned into a Noah. Thus it could be why it was shaded out and Road being there holding Mana. Or that part could well have been Nea already a Noah and killed all the other Noahs other then Road and Earl and the reason why Road was holding onto Mana like that was because she didn't want Nea to kill Mana. But instead of Killing Mana he takes him away and goes on the run as it has been said that what had happened when Nea killing the other Noah.
Hmm, that makes sense; Thanks.
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Old 2012-12-30, 14:45   Link #2406
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Also was it said that Nea and Earl fought each other to see who would become the next Earl? As I can't remember.
yes, Nea wanted to stop the Earl's plan to destroy humans. That's why he wanted to become the new "boss" of the Noahs.
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Old 2012-12-30, 16:52   Link #2407
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yes, Nea wanted to stop the Earl's plan to destroy humans. That's why he wanted to become the new "boss" of the Noahs.
That's strange because I seem to recall the current Earl saying something like he wanted to be Nea's sidekick/underling. I might have to reread the entire manga from chapter 100 though, it's been too long, so take my words with a grain of salt. I'll need to re-read from chapter 100 to be sure of anything anymore.

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Old 2012-12-30, 17:40   Link #2408
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I'll need to re-read from chapter 100 to be sure of anything anymore.
I know that feeling bro
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Old 2012-12-30, 18:10   Link #2409
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That's strange because I seem to recall the current Earl saying something like he wanted to be Nea's sidekick/underling. I might have to reread the entire manga from chapter 100 though, it's been too long, so take my words with a grain of salt. I'll need to re-read from chapter 100 to be sure of anything anymore.
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I know that feeling bro
I also have to join this club. I also would like to join the "Why does her art style change every now and then" Club.

I really do hope we get a good few chapters explaining why the 14th Noah wants to stop the Noah's from beating God. Instead of wanting to kill all humans which in a way they all ready have done so as all humans are all Noah's in the making once one of them died. Also wouldn't the Noah gene over right the human personalty leaving just the Noah hate/other stuff that comes with that Noah?
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Old 2012-12-30, 18:18   Link #2410
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I also have to join this club. I also would like to join the "Why does her art style change every now and then" Club.

I really do hope we get a good few chapters explaining why the 14th Noah wants to stop the Noah's from beating God. Instead of wanting to kill all humans which in a way they all ready have done so as all humans are all Noah's in the making once one of them died. Also wouldn't the Noah gene over right the human personalty leaving just the Noah hate/other stuff that comes with that Noah?
I think it works like menos in bleach. You have to retain your individuality to force the Noah back. Or at least until you can control it or once you form some sort of deal like, "You get 5 hours a day and I get the rest."(Depending on your Noah that might end up being the best one can hope for )
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Old 2012-12-30, 20:42   Link #2411
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By the way, I love how this thread is tagged with "what the hell is going on".
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Old 2012-12-30, 20:49   Link #2412
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Lol at the thread tags
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Old 2012-12-30, 20:54   Link #2413
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The Earl in this chapter according to me
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Old 2012-12-30, 23:47   Link #2414
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By the way, I love how this thread is tagged with "what the hell is going on".
I think that pretty much describes how we're all feeling right now. Well, I'm on vacations now so, might as well give it a good use and go back a few (hundred) chapters
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Old 2012-12-31, 01:13   Link #2415
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Can't wait till they clear up some thing with this chapter or does Hoshino want us to be confused ?
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Old 2012-12-31, 02:15   Link #2416
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Can't wait till they clear up some thing with this chapter or does Hoshino want us to be confused ?
at least there is a lot of discussion going on becouse of the confusion :P people come up with theories so something is going on at least
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Old 2012-12-31, 07:48   Link #2417
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Actually coming up with a theory for this series is difficult because, there is no clue to where things are going, even though a lot has already revealed and a lot is yet to be revealed
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Old 2012-12-31, 08:17   Link #2418
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Actually coming up with a theory for this series is difficult because, there is no clue to where things are going, even though a lot has already revealed and a lot is yet to be revealed
no no here are lots of theories and speculations... like current chapter who is in bed... mana (neah's brother) or their mother (since the shirt with those buttons looks kinda for a girl :P)

why allen is so young and such... so by looking at current chapters and precious chapters we might try to build the story somehow... connecting puzzles to se the whole picture
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no no here are lots of theories and speculations... like current chapter who is in bed... mana (neah's brother) or their mother (since the shirt with those buttons looks kinda for a girl :P)

why allen is so young and such... so by looking at current chapters and precious chapters we might try to build the story somehow... connecting puzzles to se the whole picture
that's what i am saying we have bits but not a flow to where things are going, for eg it is possible to make theories in Naruto based on the plot and characters,
but in D.gray man, we can't make out the possibilities of what is going to happen next, there are so many bits of various things in D.gray man,what we are mostly speculating is the relation between characters not the storyline itself
we have actually seen a 35(approx.) year old Allen, he aged backwards and now he is aging normally
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Old 2012-12-31, 18:02   Link #2420
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The whole Allen thing is also very weird. According to the story, when the Adult Allen found Nea, he said he'd help him, and then when Nea awoke, Allen was a kid. So I am not really sure what actually happened there, because it's also been said that Allen's parents abandoned him, but maybe it was refering to adoptive parents?

I'm confused now
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