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Old 2003-12-14, 16:29   Link #21
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actually like u said before Oro said he didn't want Naruto to change Sauske's hart I think he wants to personaly be better than Naruto beacuse they have that bond. He does want to get strong to kill his brother but Sakura and Naruto are those that are precious to him.
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Old 2003-12-14, 16:39   Link #22
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what are you guys talking aobut?

Naruto wants to be at least on par with Sasuke
Naruto is still weaker then Sasuke right now unless he goes into Kyubi form

Sasuke is progressing fast, but Naruto faster
Sasuke is feeling threatened by Naruto development
Sasuke has that feeling of superiority over Naruto, it's obvious he doesn't want to be weaker then him.

For all you who still thinks Naruto is stronger...

Sasuke
faster
Has pretty good power and stamina
Smarter
Able to think on his feet
Better control
Determined

Naruto
God like stamina
More jitsus
Summon
Determined

Naruto is very good, but without Kiyubi, Naruto won't be shit. With Kiyubi, which he does, his strength is a lot higher.

Just leave it at this

Sasuke - Faster Smarter more Finess and speed build
Naruto - Stronger, and more stamina , more of a powerhouse type build
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Old 2003-12-14, 16:47   Link #23
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but thats like saying if Sauske didn't have the sharingan he wouldn't be shit. Naruto was born like that. It's not like hes on drugs or some thing. Most of the ninjas have some special trump skill and Naruto's is kiyubi and we were talkin about a potential arc not the whole series
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Old 2003-12-14, 16:52   Link #24
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but thats like saying if Sauske didn't have the sharingan he wouldn't be shit. Naruto was born like that. It's not like hes on drugs or some thing. Most of the ninjas have some special trump skill and Naruto's is kyubi.
Actually that's not true.

Sasuke was a talented Ninja before Sharingan.

remember the 2 chunnin water ninjas in the waayyyy beginning?
Him going head to head with Haku
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Old 2003-12-14, 17:01   Link #25
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He used the sharingan againts Haku and those were some weak ass water ninjas
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Old 2003-12-14, 17:12   Link #26
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Originally Posted by aahhsin
what are you guys talking aobut?

Naruto wants to be at least on par with Sasuke
Naruto is still weaker then Sasuke right now unless he goes into Kyubi form

Sasuke is progressing fast, but Naruto faster
Sasuke is feeling threatened by Naruto development
Sasuke has that feeling of superiority over Naruto, it's obvious he doesn't want to be weaker then him.

For all you who still thinks Naruto is stronger...

Sasuke
faster
Has pretty good power and stamina
Smarter
Able to think on his feet
Better control
Determined

Naruto
God like stamina
More jitsus
Summon
Determined

Naruto is very good, but without Kiyubi, Naruto won't be shit. With Kiyubi, which he does, his strength is a lot higher.

Just leave it at this

Sasuke - Faster Smarter more Finess and speed build
Naruto - Stronger, and more stamina , more of a powerhouse type build
I don't know about smarter when it comes to battle.

Has someone closely examined a Sasuke battle when he's about to lose or better yet when he starts panicking? He starts shitting in his pants. Examples would be the Orochimaru fight and the fight with the Sound nins. Remember Naruto had to come into the Orochimaru battle and basically tell Sasuke to get a hold of himself? That's the only time when Sasuke kinda snapped out of his "shit in my pants mode." The second time was the battle with the four sound nins. He became incredibly sloppy. This is in stark contrast to Naruto who is becoming smarter in battles as of late, especially when the odds seem to go more and more against him. He's been using his Kage bushin in much more creative ways to boot. This can be in part of the fact that Naruto is supposed to be all fox like and stuff.

It is true that Naruto is lacking most of the discipline, tact, and speed that Sasuke has, but take it from this angle. Look at Sakura, she has the most control of her chakra out of Naruto and Sasuke, but only because she has next to none. Naruto on the other hand has a hella amount of chakra, so he's still learning how to control it. If and when Naruto becomes much more skilled he's going to be a powerhouse, or a monster as Kabuto put it best. If Naruto was all that Sasuke is now where would be the room for improvement? Naruto would almost be perfect. That wouldn't be any fun.

Also, I kinda find it a little silly when people go "Well if Naruto didn't have Kyubi in him..." In all honesty, if Naruto didn't have the Kyubi in him I'd doubt he'd even want to be Hokage and maybe 4th Hokage would've still been alive meaning there most likely would've been no Orochimaru to even bother with. The point is as long as he has the Kyubi in him, Naruto has the potential to be strongest ninja out there. So unless Itachi gets to Naruto first, we measure Naruto with what he has, a la the Kyubi. That's almost going, Sasuke wouldn't be as strong if he didn't have the Sharigan. That's kinda stupid IMO.

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Old 2003-12-14, 17:29   Link #27
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it is stupid that why I compared it to people saying if Naruto did not have kyubi
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