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Old 2010-09-05, 11:03   Link #2181
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I don't think Yoruichi could take out Byakuya, especially since she apparently doesn't even have a sword.

Even if she could, that would have meant Ichigo never achieving bankai, and that would have cost him later on.
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Old 2010-09-05, 12:49   Link #2182
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I don't think Yoruichi could take out Byakuya, especially since she apparently doesn't even have a sword.

Even if she could, that would have meant Ichigo never achieving bankai, and that would have cost him later on.
Yourichi could defeat simply because she is ranked higher than him. Why did Yourich become a captain, but just because she could beat him doesn't exactly mean Ichigo couldn't learn bankai at the time
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Old 2010-09-05, 12:57   Link #2183
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VS discussions are not suitable for the Q&A since they are subjective to say the least. Yoruichi had no reason to fight Byakuya at the time, since everyone was at a wartime release alert status, and we've never really seen her get serious. Plus we don't know if Byakuya would have given her a chance to do so, considering the situation.
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this is in relation to what aizen said about his Kyōka Suigetsu's ability only affecting those who can see.

well, assuming you need eyes to see, how come baraggan was affected, even though he's a skeleton (with no eyes, just eye holes)?
Barragan can see, regardless of how. From that point on, seeing the release = hypnotoad time.
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Old 2010-09-05, 13:01   Link #2184
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Yourichi could defeat simply because she is ranked higher than him. Why did Yourich become a captain, but just because she could beat him doesn't exactly mean Ichigo couldn't learn bankai at the time
The source of much of Ichigo's determination, which allowed him to learn bankai so quickly, was the combined effect of his wish to save Rukia, and his desire to gain revenge on Byakuya, who had left him to die and whose belief that Rukia had to atone for her crimes clashed so much with Ichigo's own beliefs of fraternal responsibilities.
If Byakuya had been defeated by Yoruichi, that reason for advancement wouldn't have existed, and Ichigo likely wouldn't have achieved bankai within the 3 days, leading to him to need to go with the long, drawn-out route to power.

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Old 2010-09-05, 13:07   Link #2185
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The source of much of Ichigo's determination, which allowed him to learn bankai so quickly, was the combined effect of his wish to save Rukia, and his desire to gain revenge on Byakuya, who had left him to die and whose belief that Rukia had to atone for her crimes clashed so much with Ichigo's own beliefs of fraternal responsibilities.
If Byakuya had been defeated by Yoruichi, that reason for advancement wouldn't have existed, and Ichigo likely wouldn't have achieved bankai within the 3 days, leading to him needing to go with the long, drawn-out route to power.
Yea I know but Yourichi didn't defeat Byakuya. It doesn't matter if she could because she didn't. She probably couldn't after all who to say other wouldn't have gotton hurt in the process plus Tite needed Ichigo to learn bankai this way. It was the best thing Tite ever did
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Old 2010-09-05, 19:30   Link #2186
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Take it to PM, guys. This thread is strictly Q & A.
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Old 2010-09-06, 10:37   Link #2187
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if u havent seen the first battle between renji and ichigo who do u think would win ???
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Old 2010-09-06, 13:14   Link #2188
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Why don't the captains that serve as the heads of other sub-divisions have clear successors? There is a definite need for the Omnitsukido, healing division and research division, yet none of their leaders have anyone to take over from them should they die in battle. Nemu would fail should her "Mayuri-sama" conk it, and Soifon obviously doesn't trust Omaeda to succeed her.
On another note, what happened to the Kido Corps? In the fight against Aizen, Soul Society should have been pooling all of their resources and using their strongest fighters to take on the traitors (and an unknown number of arrancar), yet they've failed to mobilize their best users of an entire branch of the Shinigami fighting arts.
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Old 2010-09-06, 13:44   Link #2189
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^ Oomaeda is clearly a VC, should Soifon perish he will be the one taking the captain's exam. Mayuri is practically soloing, since Nemu is his, but she'd still be a candidate for the position. Should she fail, there's over 15 more seated shinigami to give it a shot.
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Old 2010-09-06, 13:59   Link #2190
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Well, the Gotei 13 are a bit shoddy when it comes to this.

The Kido Corps doesn't have a clear captain, although in Pendulum they did say that it's rare for the Kido Corps Captain to appear in the open. But, considering that after all this time, they failed to replace the three traitor captains, I'd say Kido Corps is still without a captain, or perhaps the organization was disbanded altogether.
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Old 2010-09-06, 15:36   Link #2191
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Why don't the captains that serve as the heads of other sub-divisions have clear successors? There is a definite need for the Omnitsukido, healing division and research division, yet none of their leaders have anyone to take over from them should they die in battle. Nemu would fail should her "Mayuri-sama" conk it, and Soifon obviously doesn't trust Omaeda to succeed her.
I'm pretty sure Akon (that dude with the horns) would take over the research department. Also, there are plenty of members of the 4th Division that could take over if Unohana left. (Isane and the 3rd seat come to mind).
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Old 2010-09-08, 17:17   Link #2192
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In the latest bleach databook do they talk about the 4 noble families
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Old 2010-09-08, 18:36   Link #2193
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what dose it say about them?
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Old 2010-09-09, 00:23   Link #2194
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Can someone prove whether Soifons shikai has to cut/pierce the persons body to tag them with the butterfly...or does she just have to touch them...?
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Old 2010-09-09, 00:32   Link #2195
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I'm sure the pointy part has to poke the target. But it can be a shallow wound. Evidenced by the Yoruichi fight (since she only hardly noticed some of them until they were pointed out).
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Old 2010-09-23, 15:33   Link #2196
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dont know if it is answered but how the system of aging work for shinigami some look old and some stay young on the same age never grow and some children??
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Old 2010-09-23, 15:44   Link #2197
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There's no real answer for that yet, but there is this thread.
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Old 2010-09-26, 07:46   Link #2198
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How powerful is Sogyo no Kotowari? I know Ukitake probably can't fire back solid objects, and he definitely can return purely energy-based attacks, but can he fire back elemental/ semi-energy attacks? Could Barragan, if somehow fighting Ukitake, find himself with a faceful of Respira? Could Ukitake attack Yamamoto with his own fire?
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Old 2010-09-26, 11:08   Link #2199
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That's speculation and unanswerable.
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Old 2010-09-26, 19:21   Link #2200
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what bleach movies are english dubbed and on DVD?
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