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Old 2008-04-20, 19:46   Link #1201
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There is:
#1 Shihouin
#2 Kuchiki
#3 Shiba (former)
#4 Ōmaeda ( Marechiyo Ōmaeda received his position as lieutenant because of his family's connections, possibly hinting that his family is one of the said four)
kubo said himslef that shiba was a clan when there were 5 noble houses (its in an interview in this forum somewhere). its hinted that the family that jidanbou comes from is noble, and are always given the job of mantaining the gate, but this is unconfirmed.

so its
shihouin
kuchiki
Omaeda, jidanbous family (both unconfirmed)
maybe one or two unknown houses.

hope this clears anything up.
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Old 2008-04-22, 01:07   Link #1202
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Tres Cifas (3-digit Arrancar) 100-up are "First Generation Arrancar" They were not created with the Hougyoku and instead evolved naturally.
I recall that they weren't created with the Hogyokou, certainly (as Dordonni said). But could Aizen have created them by other means? Is it confirmed they evolved without his aid? This comes up every few weeks...

This question comes up regularly, and it always confuses me. Does a factual answer exist? If not, I apologize for bringing it to this thread.
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Old 2008-04-22, 01:37   Link #1203
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I recall that they weren't created with the Hogyokou, certainly (as Dordonni said). But could Aizen have created them by other means? Is it confirmed they evolved without his aid? This comes up every few weeks...

This question comes up regularly, and it always confuses me. Does a factual answer exist? If not, I apologize for bringing it to this thread.
The manga showed GF haveing his mask removed after his fight with Ichigo by Iceringer while a D-roy looked down on them. Both D-roy and the unmasked GF looked more hollowish then they would later in the seires. So yes it looks as though Azien was not needed to create Arrancar but he did help in improveing them.
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Old 2008-04-22, 01:44   Link #1204
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Old 2008-04-22, 03:20   Link #1205
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Old 2008-04-22, 03:25   Link #1206
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Old 2008-04-22, 03:55   Link #1207
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Old 2008-04-22, 20:26   Link #1208
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yo, when is the next chapter of bleach coming out? i have been waiting for ages for it and nothing so far.
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Old 2008-04-22, 21:05   Link #1209
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Old 2008-04-23, 01:05   Link #1210
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where is yoruichi right now?
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Old 2008-04-23, 01:11   Link #1211
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when in the manga does it say that Yoruichi & Kisuke escaped together. or that she helped him get away from SS after the creating the Hōgyoku?
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Old 2008-04-23, 01:57   Link #1212
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where is yoruichi right now?
In the anime or manga?
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Old 2008-04-23, 05:44   Link #1213
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when in the manga does it say that Yoruichi & Kisuke escaped together. or that she helped him get away from SS after the creating the Hōgyoku?
It doesn't.
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Old 2008-04-23, 16:43   Link #1214
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He died curseing Azien because he was told that by joining Azein, Azien would take away his pain and that Azein had lied to him. A case can be made that Azein did remove his pain just not the way ArroNiero wanted as it involed a lot more pain and then nothing.
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Old 2008-04-23, 18:13   Link #1215
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Old 2008-04-23, 19:54   Link #1216
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OD has good points but....
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Old 2008-04-23, 20:11   Link #1217
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you might spoil that one, but that's exactly what I am thinking. The 9th Espada could still be the last one from 1st gen, why shouldn't the Espada change like for example the Gotei 13? There could have been more then just 1st and 2nd gen Espadas
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Old 2008-04-23, 21:27   Link #1218
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We should take this Espada discussion to another thread as Q&A is not appropriate thread
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Old 2008-04-23, 23:15   Link #1219
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Ah, sorry people........I started all this by asking, in the hope that there was a clear-cut answer to exactly which espada were created by Aizen and/or Hogyokou. Since it seems that there's no absolutely factual answer I'll fall back on discussion in threads.

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Old 2008-04-23, 23:37   Link #1220
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We should take this Espada discussion to another thread as Q&A is not appropriate thread
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But where would this discussion be appropriate?

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