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Old 2006-09-12, 11:30   Link #1021
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The problem with Hirai art is all the art looks the same, you can literally take a wig and put it on one of his characters and they become the spitting image of an earlier character.
Exactly my point.
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Old 2006-09-12, 11:34   Link #1022
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... I miss Haruhiko Mikimoto. *Sniff* His styles were classic...

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Old 2006-09-13, 00:12   Link #1023
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Hirai's designs are the Okawara formula. They look like shit on paper, but the differences are more apparent in animation because there's only so many character designers that can emulate Hirai's style. Which is why the character faces suffer some inconsistencies at times. Most of the animes he designed the character suffered this. SEED, GSD, Fafner, and S-CRY-ed all had episodes where "Is this Hirai?"

For all the weakness Hirai has in his character designs, I love his clothings design though.
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Old 2006-09-13, 10:18   Link #1024
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not really funny but (lol typed bit instead of not)
VA for shin is 鈴村健一 right?
the characters look similar to gundam seed and .......
(the bottom right character if you can read it)
http://www.toei-anim.co.jp/tv/olynssis/

I see Shinn and Lacus without her hair clip.
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Old 2006-09-13, 15:51   Link #1025
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lacus, yes shinn, not so much (maybe shinn+tohru)
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Old 2006-09-13, 20:40   Link #1026
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Spoiler for Reason for athrun joining Zaft:

wakeke
Sorta hoping for it to move =/

Though she dun deserve white....but u gotta say she looks good in it
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Old 2006-09-13, 22:19   Link #1027
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I see Shinn and Lacus without her hair clip.
Lacus with red eyes = T_T
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Old 2006-09-13, 23:09   Link #1028
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Hirai's designs are the Okawara formula. They look like shit on paper, but the differences are more apparent in animation because there's only so many character designers that can emulate Hirai's style. Which is why the character faces suffer some inconsistencies at times. Most of the animes he designed the character suffered this. SEED, GSD, Fafner, and S-CRY-ed all had episodes where "Is this Hirai?"

For all the weakness Hirai has in his character designs, I love his clothings design though.
Personally I think not drawing in "the" anime character is the most basic requirement for character designers. I wouldn't call any illustrator/designer without his/her own signature (recognizable) style professional at all... I mean having your work recognized is one of the most important thing in the art/applied art world.

Imo, Hirai really didn't ultilized a lot of technique that help make their character more differentiable, such as variation in face shape, eye shape, body type (come on, we can have a over weight or flat chest character once a while All characters fall into the same "ideal" anime character body type) , and posture.

I mean... just look at Stella and Cagalli... there are scenes where you practically can't tell who is who if you do not know the context of the scene >.>;

I recommend looking at bleach for good character design, it's a huge caste and yet you have no problem recognizing one character from another. HxH and Death Notes are also good example as well.

And honestly I find Hirai's casual wear to be pretty horrible >.>; what's with shinn's outfits >.>; and GS's Athrun's shinny yellow turtle neck with maroon trenchcoat (wince)
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Old 2006-09-14, 10:44   Link #1029
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And honestly I find Hirai's casual wear to be pretty horrible >.>; what's with shinn's outfits >.>; and GS's Athrun's shinny yellow turtle neck with maroon trenchcoat (wince)
Nothing could dethrone the travesty that was the Final Plus Shinn and Kira!
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Old 2006-09-14, 14:18   Link #1030
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You know you liked Kira's "Miami Vice" outfit.

And seriously, I like Hirai's style of drawing but dude does make all his characters look the same. That was totally GS Lacus with purple hair/red eyes on that site a couple of posts ago...

BTW, I say "GS Lacus" because in GSD both Lacus and Kira underwent minor changes due to a slight shift in Hirai's art style. Lacus getting a double shot of "babe serum" complete with longer, more tousled hair (clearly evident in her "Moon Goddess" dress) and a less rounded, more defined face/body, and Kira getting longer, more spiked out "badass" hair and less rounded, more angular face.

Here's an example (in spoiler tags to save space), for those who are curious:

Spoiler for Compare...see the difference?:
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Old 2006-09-14, 14:36   Link #1031
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Its not so much a change of art style, but a representation of 2 years passing and their new age.
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Old 2006-09-14, 15:48   Link #1032
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Its not so much a change of art style, but a representation of 2 years passing and their new age.
Well, the reason I say it would be an art atyle shift is because Shinn is drawn the same way, even though he's as young as Kira/Athrun/Lacus were in the first GS.
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Old 2006-09-14, 16:08   Link #1033
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What the fuck is this??? http://www.toei-anim.co.jp/tv/olynssis/

That girl>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>La me Lacus and idiot Meer.
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Old 2006-09-14, 17:27   Link #1034
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Originally Posted by AlphaDragoon
You know you liked Kira's "Miami Vice" outfit.

And seriously, I like Hirai's style of drawing but dude does make all his characters look the same. That was totally GS Lacus with purple hair/red eyes on that site a couple of posts ago...

BTW, I say "GS Lacus" because in GSD both Lacus and Kira underwent minor changes due to a slight shift in Hirai's art style. Lacus getting a double shot of "babe serum" complete with longer, more tousled hair (clearly evident in her "Moon Goddess" dress) and a less rounded, more defined face/body, and Kira getting longer, more spiked out "badass" hair and less rounded, more angular face.

Here's an example (in spoiler tags to save space), for those who are curious:

Spoiler for Compare...see the difference?:
Mr. Hirai, PLEASE DRAW SOME TEETH (and lips) please. Thanks.
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Old 2006-09-14, 21:31   Link #1035
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I must be the only one who likes all of Hirai's designed clothes.
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Old 2006-09-15, 04:18   Link #1036
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Spoiler for Compare...see the difference?:
Isn't pilot suit Lacus newer?
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Old 2006-09-15, 05:34   Link #1037
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hmmm is it just me or have i managed to make this thing go completely off topic by posting just that 1 link?...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80JckRDEN54
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj3aB2wXC9E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcWOsXfFSpQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80JckRDEN54
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riTN9iUkJTs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzDtGu9FLwY
ok this one i .....wtf
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1a87_G9hfw

this one is ...wow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hHAVw5vk30

lol athrun's school of combat?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW_02wLRFF0
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Old 2006-09-15, 06:45   Link #1038
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The only school that Athrun should ever set up is one that teaches Harem making.
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Old 2006-09-15, 09:58   Link #1039
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I like hirai's style ... sure his chara's are similar and the hands are sometimes strange ^^ ...
but of all GS and GSD pictures (not to forget the eipsodes he was art director) I like the ons of hirai the most.

beside, I think his art in Infinite Ryvius is quite different
and it would be bad if the characters in GS looks exactly the same in GSD ... its an age different and imo it was felicitous.
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Old 2006-09-15, 11:57   Link #1040
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That burger king was mad funny.

Though that LotR parody RULED. Zechs=Gandalf...couldn't have found a more fitting role.
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