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Vexx · 2006-01-31, 15:53

It would be "nice" if they both survived and had long happy lives... but yeah it makes a more compelling story if they love and live and are doomed sooner than later.

After all, life is terminal -- we're all dying ... just some faster than others.

CaiSter21 · 2006-01-31, 16:04

but dont we see them getting married at the final ending of the ED theme song?
so then how would it be possible for them to die?

Radiosity · 2006-01-31, 16:42

That could just as easily be a dream, or what one or both of them wished could have happened. Just because it's in the ED, doesn't mean it's real

JanthraX^ · 2006-01-31, 17:15

LOL, i cant belive so many of you want the bad ending, well i think it would be bad if some one died, but then the greatest romance (i belive it to be) ended with both lovers dying in each others arms.

I would love to end this anime thinking, wow they did it, they survived and will love each other for a long time.

YOUR ALL EVIL PEOPLE!!!!!!!ONEONE111ELEVEN! =P

Vexx · 2006-01-31, 18:43

Love stories can important while not being necessarily happy at the end -- the real tragedy would be if they were unable to spend quality happy time together during the time they had. That's what makes the doctor's antics so reprehensible even though he may have good intentions.
Even if you spend many years in a relationship with someone, after they're gone it is hard not to reflect on the things you were *going* to do and now can't. Thats why its important to do the best you can *right now* with whomever you care about.

I have a bad feeling this show is going to upset me as badly as AIR did.... <brace for impact>

Zappster · 2006-01-31, 18:47

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Originally Posted by Kaoru Chujo

Episode 2 was worth waiting for -- although I'm glad episode 3 will come sooner. I'm still right there for this series. Best so far this season. I love the atmosphere and the kinds of emotions it generates. And definitely the OP and ED. Rika continues to be so attractive, in all her moods. More props for Takahashi Mikako. And I'm appreciating the work of Sugimura Ken'ichi as Yuichi, as well. (He played Shin in GSD.)

Spoiler:

From the time he/she posted -- like within a half-hour of the broadcast ending -- I think eggplant was watching on TV in Japan. Lucky!

Couldn't agree more if I tried. Absolutely spot on, great post. My favourite show of the season so far. A lot has to do with the voice acting as well, having recently just started watching Honey and Clover I really like Takahashi Mikako's voice acting in that as well as this show. Just seems perfect for the role. Fast becoming one of my favourite seiyuu(hope I spelt that right), if not most favourite.

ultrataro · 2006-01-31, 18:56

Ok, here's my theory

Rika is in love with the doctor, the lighter is a symbol of her unwanted attention to the doctor. Unwanted because the doctor is secretly in love with Yuuichi! The doctor wants to get rid of Rika but can't do anything obvious like botch a surgery, so he schemes & sees to use Yuuichi & Rika's relationship to manipulate it to try & make Rika die of a broken heart.
Rika acts all upset & cant stand to see Yuuichi when she discovers his ero mag stash because she secretly illegally posed for those mags and the old guy was actually the publishing giant of the huge porn company. Yuichi can never see her the same way ever again.
Rika's condition becomes critical. Zebramask being the superhero he is donates his heart because he can have a mechanical heart implanted into himself. The operations are a success and to express the debt she will forever be in, ends up with Zebramask & they produce many little Zebras.
Yuichi is so inspired by the late old geezer that he goes on to become a huge porn star with the nurse and together they eventually form the greatest adult entertainment conglamorate in the world.
In a twist of irony, the doctor who became world famous for his amazing dual simultaneous heart operation on Rika & Zebramask but for some odd reason became a bitter recluse, dies of a mysteryous heart disease caused by an unkown virus he contracted on his mountain voyage.
BTW, in case you're wondering, this is all silly. The only semi-serious bit in it is I'm wondering what the deal is with the doctor & the lighter & the Christmas gift. I'm sure it will be revealed later.

suguru · 2006-01-31, 21:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by JanthraX^

LOL, i cant belive so many of you want the bad ending, well i think it would be bad if some one died, but then the greatest romance (i belive it to be) ended with both lovers dying in each others arms.

I would love to end this anime thinking, wow they did it, they survived and will love each other for a long time.

YOUR ALL EVIL PEOPLE!!!!!!!ONEONE111ELEVEN! =P

I'm with you, I want to see them live since watching them being robbed of their whole lives together is just a depressing thought. Although if someone has to die to appease the shinigami, I hope it's the doctor

Lackadaisical · 2006-01-31, 21:57

If someone dies I want it to be Yuuichi so that he can donate his heart to Rika and ensure she survives.

That would be a better ending, in my opinion, than if Rika dies as Rika's death is somewhat expected while Yuuichi's death isn't expected.

Vexx · 2006-01-31, 22:09

Ya'll keep forgetting that Yuuichi has hepatitis ... not a donor candidate. Though this is a fantasy and I suppose such things might be ignored....

Flo · 2006-02-01, 00:37

How bout Rika becoming Momo the girl god of death by the end of episode 6?

laboo · 2006-02-01, 14:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by eggplant

Okay, here it goes. I want to mention, however, I have not read the novels nor have seen the fansub, so I'll try to translate it as literally as possible, avoing paraphrasing, and the proper nouns may not be consistent.

Spoiler for Novel vol 1:

Spoiler for Novel vol 2:

Spoiler for Novel vol 3:

Spoiler for Novel vol 4:

Spoiler for Novel vol 5:

Thanks so much for doing the translation!!!!!!

evil-samurai · 2006-02-01, 20:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radiosity

I thought the doctor was just being a dick. Hopefully he'll prove me wrong. It's not up to him to decide if they want to be in a relationship, regardless of how much time they might or might not have together. So either way the doctor is an idiot and needs to die.

I don't like the doctor. Just in case I didn't make that clear

Hey! me also, he deserves more then just a kick by that Nurse. When they introduced him, I just realisted that there can be a happy ending where someone dies

well really.. he is not that! bad but still, the not like the writers are trying to make his character really likeable ^^; Oh! and looks like they might.. have some little story about him, in the ep.3 preview it has him crying...

After watching episode 2, I can say really! like the Nurse now, Its great having such a headstrong character like her in such a show, well hope to see more of her

Zalis · 2006-02-01, 21:19

Well, I happened to hear about this one in an IRC room, and I think it'll be perfect fodder for the "emotional junkie" side of me that loves Air, SaiKano, KgNE, etc. so much. . .I'm really liking these characters, even after only 2 episodes. . .it looks like we're heading for something sad, but it looks like most fans won't mind

AnimeUniverse, imo, is the group to go for on this series--accurate translation, excellent editing, decent karaoke. . . I don't really care about video quality (unless it's truly awful), so I haven't compared releases on it.
*EDIT: Akai is also very worthwhile (see below)

However, I did want to comment on one thing, a line that 3 groups so far have somehow messed up. . .it occurs in the preview at the end of episode 2, and concerns the title of a book (later turned into a movie) called "Ginga tetsudou no yoru" ("Night on the Galactic Railroad), which I assume is the title of the book that Yuuichi is talking about in his preview monologue.

A comparison:

KuroNeko 24:28 ~~

Natsume, surgery, Rika. Houdai Mountain, the Milky Way night railroad. And...

Shin-tabi 24:16 ~~

Natsume, Surgery, Rika, the mountain fort, seeing the galaxy railroad, from then on.

AnimeUniverse 24:25 ~~

Natsume, surgery, Rika. Fortress Mountain... ["Ginga no tetsudou no yoru"**left untranslated**] And...

The movie (licensed & released on DVD by CPM) is long/slow/strange, but worth watching.

EDIT: Akai has it correct--

24:23
Natsume. Surgery. Rika. Gun-Battery Mountain. "Night on the Galactic Railroad". And then...

Props to Akai on this one--I may not know everything about Japan/Japanese/Japanese literature, but at least I'm one of the 26 or so people in the US who bought that DVD :lol:

tun · 2006-02-01, 21:46

Ours is
Natsume. Surgery. Rika. Gun-Battery Mountain. "Night on the Galactic Railroad". And then...

Looks like we got it right.

Hope you check out ours before you decide on AnimeU. And I must say that our video quality is slightly better, especially in fullscreen mode.

Zalis · 2006-02-01, 22:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by tun

Ours is
Natsume. Surgery. Rika. Gun-Battery Mountain. "Night on the Galactic Railroad". And then...

Looks like we got it right.

Hope you check out ours before you decide on AnimeU. And I must say that our video quality is slightly better, especially in fullscreen mode.

What a coincidence, I just finished DLing the ep and checking that part, and it is indeed right

, and I was coming back to edit my previous post. I actually haven't watched Akai's ep 1 (it's the only group's releases I haven't DLed yet), but I will check it out now, and then decide who will take home the glory, Akai-Anime, or THE IRON CHEF

Tiberium Wolf · 2006-02-02, 04:01

There other things in AnimeU TLs that we should take note.

There are parts where they dont exactly translate what they say. I dont like also the box for the notes... aghrrr... they should have used a transparent box.

Tiberium Wolf · 2006-02-02, 04:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by tun

Ours is
Natsume. Surgery. Rika. Gun-Battery Mountain. "Night on the Galactic Railroad". And then...

Looks like we got it right.

Hope you check out ours before you decide on AnimeU. And I must say that our video quality is slightly better, especially in fullscreen mode.

I noticed that Akai only rlsed 3 eps... well.. aria is stalled...

Anyway I am currently dling... and I see it's in mkv... dont tell me it's softsubbed!?

. Damn I hate softsubs !

DryFire · 2006-02-02, 09:27

No, it is not softsubbed.

Anyway, I hope natsume gets a good emotional kick in the crotch next episdoe, because he deserves it.

Fimbulvetr · 2006-02-02, 15:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiberium Wolf

dont tell me it's softsubbed!?

. Damn I hate softsubs !

Oh you hate softsubs, great.

back to topic, I really like this anime, even if ep2 was frustrating. Kaoru Chujo's already quoted post really hit the nail on the head there.
With only 3 groups doing it there is little competition for AkA (quality-wise), keep up the good work ^^
I would prefer softsubs though

2006-01-31, 15:53	Link #121
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 55	It would be "nice" if they both survived and had long happy lives... but yeah it makes a more compelling story if they love and live and are doomed sooner than later. After all, life is terminal -- we're all dying ... just some faster than others. __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Light Novel series Volume 3 in progress; Vol. 3 ch. 04 released) ((thanks for reading))

2006-01-31, 16:04	Link #122
CaiSter21 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004	but dont we see them getting married at the final ending of the ED theme song? so then how would it be possible for them to die? __________________

2006-01-31, 16:42	Link #123
Radiosity Sexy Tornado Artist Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The European Bunion Age: 34	That could just as easily be a dream, or what one or both of them wished could have happened. Just because it's in the ED, doesn't mean it's real __________________

2006-01-31, 17:15	Link #124
JanthraX^ Ace Archer Join Date: Jan 2006 Age: 25	LOL, i cant belive so many of you want the bad ending, well i think it would be bad if some one died, but then the greatest romance (i belive it to be) ended with both lovers dying in each others arms. I would love to end this anime thinking, wow they did it, they survived and will love each other for a long time. YOUR ALL EVIL PEOPLE!!!!!!!ONEONE111ELEVEN! =P __________________

2006-01-31, 18:43	Link #125
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 55	Love stories can important while not being necessarily happy at the end -- the real tragedy would be if they were unable to spend quality happy time together during the time they had. That's what makes the doctor's antics so reprehensible even though he may have good intentions. Even if you spend many years in a relationship with someone, after they're gone it is hard not to reflect on the things you were going to do and now can't. Thats why its important to do the best you can right now with whomever you care about. I have a bad feeling this show is going to upset me as badly as AIR did.... <brace for impact> __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Light Novel series Volume 3 in progress; Vol. 3 ch. 04 released) ((thanks for reading))

2006-01-31, 18:56	Link #127
ultrataro Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Hawaii	Ok, here's my theory Rika is in love with the doctor, the lighter is a symbol of her unwanted attention to the doctor. Unwanted because the doctor is secretly in love with Yuuichi! The doctor wants to get rid of Rika but can't do anything obvious like botch a surgery, so he schemes & sees to use Yuuichi & Rika's relationship to manipulate it to try & make Rika die of a broken heart. Rika acts all upset & cant stand to see Yuuichi when she discovers his ero mag stash because she secretly illegally posed for those mags and the old guy was actually the publishing giant of the huge porn company. Yuichi can never see her the same way ever again. Rika's condition becomes critical. Zebramask being the superhero he is donates his heart because he can have a mechanical heart implanted into himself. The operations are a success and to express the debt she will forever be in, ends up with Zebramask & they produce many little Zebras. Yuichi is so inspired by the late old geezer that he goes on to become a huge porn star with the nurse and together they eventually form the greatest adult entertainment conglamorate in the world. In a twist of irony, the doctor who became world famous for his amazing dual simultaneous heart operation on Rika & Zebramask but for some odd reason became a bitter recluse, dies of a mysteryous heart disease caused by an unkown virus he contracted on his mountain voyage. BTW, in case you're wondering, this is all silly. The only semi-serious bit in it is I'm wondering what the deal is with the doctor & the lighter & the Christmas gift. I'm sure it will be revealed later.

2006-01-31, 21:57	Link #129
Lackadaisical Member Join Date: Oct 2004	If someone dies I want it to be Yuuichi so that he can donate his heart to Rika and ensure she survives. That would be a better ending, in my opinion, than if Rika dies as Rika's death is somewhat expected while Yuuichi's death isn't expected.

2006-01-31, 22:09	Link #130
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 55	Ya'll keep forgetting that Yuuichi has hepatitis ... not a donor candidate. Though this is a fantasy and I suppose such things might be ignored.... __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Light Novel series Volume 3 in progress; Vol. 3 ch. 04 released) ((thanks for reading))

2006-02-01, 00:37	Link #131
Flo The Necessary Evil Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Peeing on Stinku's Grave	How bout Rika becoming Momo the girl god of death by the end of episode 6? Last edited by Flo; 2006-02-01 at 08:44.

2006-02-01, 21:19	Link #134
Zalis Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 31	Well, I happened to hear about this one in an IRC room, and I think it'll be perfect fodder for the "emotional junkie" side of me that loves Air, SaiKano, KgNE, etc. so much. . .I'm really liking these characters, even after only 2 episodes. . .it looks like we're heading for something sad, but it looks like most fans won't mind AnimeUniverse, imo, is the group to go for on this series--accurate translation, excellent editing, decent karaoke. . . I don't really care about video quality (unless it's truly awful), so I haven't compared releases on it. EDIT: Akai is also very worthwhile (see below) However, I did want to comment on one thing, a line that 3 groups so far have somehow messed up. . .it occurs in the preview at the end of episode 2, and concerns the title of a book (later turned into a movie) called "Ginga tetsudou no yoru" ("Night on the Galactic Railroad), which I assume is the title of the book that Yuuichi is talking about in his preview monologue. A comparison: KuroNeko 24:28 ~~ Natsume, surgery, Rika. Houdai Mountain, the Milky Way night railroad. And... Shin-tabi 24:16 ~~ Natsume, Surgery, Rika, the mountain fort, seeing the galaxy railroad, from then on. AnimeUniverse 24:25 ~~ Natsume, surgery, Rika. Fortress Mountain... ["Ginga no tetsudou no yoru"left untranslated] And... The movie (licensed & released on DVD by CPM) is long/slow/strange, but worth watching. EDIT: Akai has it correct-- 24:23 Natsume. Surgery. Rika. Gun-Battery Mountain. "Night on the Galactic Railroad". And then... Props to Akai on this one--I may not know everything about Japan/Japanese/Japanese literature, but at least I'm one of the 26 or so people in the US who bought that DVD :lol: Last edited by Zalis; 2006-02-01 at 22:34.*

2006-02-01, 21:46	Link #135
tun lolwut Fansubber Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: NYC Age: 25	Ours is Natsume. Surgery. Rika. Gun-Battery Mountain. "Night on the Galactic Railroad". And then... Looks like we got it right. Hope you check out ours before you decide on AnimeU. And I must say that our video quality is slightly better, especially in fullscreen mode. __________________ #m.3.3.w@irc.rizon.net

2006-02-02, 04:01	Link #137
Tiberium Wolf Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Age: 33	There other things in AnimeU TLs that we should take note. There are parts where they dont exactly translate what they say. I dont like also the box for the notes... aghrrr... they should have used a transparent box. __________________

2006-02-02, 09:27	Link #139
DryFire Panda Herder Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: A bombed out building in Beruit.	No, it is not softsubbed. Anyway, I hope natsume gets a good emotional kick in the crotch next episdoe, because he deserves it.