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Old 2007-07-31, 01:45   Link #1
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Naisho no Tsubomi

Naisho no Tsubomi
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Based on the shoujo manga about girls puberty and sex education by Yabuuchi Yuu, currently serialized in Shougaku Yonensei and Shougaku Gonensei (4th Grade and 5th Grade respectively), with 4 tankoubon releases (including one prequel) under the Ciao comics label.

Source: Naisho no Tsubomi -Mebae- cover

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Genre: Shoujo, Slice of Life
Type: OVA

Expected Release Date: Spring 2008

Manga thread: http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=26862

MDN News report about the popularity of the manga (dated back in 2005): http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/waiwai...dm999000c.html

Episode titles and release dates:
4/25 - Akachan wa naisho 『赤ちゃんはないしょ』
5/30 - Otokonoko♂onnanoko♀ 『男の子♂女の子♀』
6/27 - Episode 3

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Old 2007-08-27, 08:26   Link #2
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Read this to get why they picked this out of all the shoujo manga to animate:
http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/waiwai...dm999000c.html
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Old 2007-08-29, 10:04   Link #3
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Naisho no Tsubomi, it seems, has hit a nerve with the moe-kei type of otaku, the name given to geeks with a fascination for little girls.
Yesss, right.. they all love little girls..
That's some term-bending over there, seriously!

Anyway, it isn't the first shoujo manga to be invaded by the otaku masses.. just look at Marimite, e.g..
I'll probably have a look at it cause the covers are cuteness overload.
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Old 2007-08-29, 10:15   Link #4
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I'm definitely an avid supporter of cute girls doing cute things, but this manga made me puke tbh. It's really aimed at kids. -.-"" So not loli fans or anything it's aimed at kids. So even though a lot of people act like kids I doubt they will like this.

I for one will not watch this.
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Old 2007-08-29, 18:39   Link #5
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Me neither. It looks kinda stupid. I'm surprised people would like this. I'm not being mean or anything really.
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Old 2007-09-18, 00:27   Link #6
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I'm not sure, could go either way. I mean, we've all been through the sort of stuff these kids go through(there's a lot about the boys too), so familiartiy and empathy is pretty much a given.
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The storyline is cute and sweet, the sort of innocent pseudo-romance/mutual crush that kids actually experience, and it is handled very well. With the material concerned, there's naturally enough "loli" and "fanservice" to draw that crowd(I used quotes because sexual issues are treated too carefully to give what I'd call a loli sort of vibe, and it's not fanservice if it's a natural part of the subject matter).
There's plenty of good laughs too, both appropriate and gray-area. But, like I said, I think a lot of people will never even think of the above terms, just see the characters for what they are, kids trying to deal with the many difficult issues of becoming adults.
Actually, I think this'll be a lot like Aishiteruze Baby. Yes, there was skin and innuendo and more, but you don't think about it. Even with the main guy's obviously colorful love life, all I kept hearing was "too adorable to bear". Ultimately, I think a lot of people will like it.

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Old 2007-09-18, 00:59   Link #7
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Funny, I cant seem to find the first volume in my folders anymore.

Anyway, I like what I saw when I read the first volume a while ago, and I fail to see why they are pointing the finger at the people buying it.

This is just another slice of life show with a bit of romance in the end. Do people think bad about the title (and the readers) because it deals with puberty and sex education?
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Old 2007-09-18, 18:33   Link #8
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This is just another slice of life show with a bit of romance in the end. Do people think bad about the title (and the readers) because it deals with puberty and sex education?
We're not talking about Ichigo Mashimaro here. It's a shoujo manga meant to teach young girls about the birds and the bees. It's disturbing when adult males who should already know better are still buying and reading it.
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Old 2007-09-18, 21:04   Link #9
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We're not talking about Ichigo Mashimaro here. It's a shoujo manga meant to teach young girls about the birds and the bees. It's disturbing when adult males who should already know better are still buying and reading it.
Were are not talking about porn here either.

But you are right in a sense. I have yet to see a character with lesbian tendencies in this title, so this certainly doesn't start like IM.

This manga has a lot of scenes that also show up on other shows, and if you ever bother checking it (in case you haven't), you'll realize that there's nothing dirty or disturbing about them (at least when you compare it with things we see in other shows). As a matter of fact, romance and comedy are actually very present in the story, so not every chapter is centered around sexuality.

At the end of the day, you can't really say anything as to why people are buying this title. Maybe they are perverts, maybe they are curious, maybe they just grab anything thats labeled as "popular" and maybe....... just maybe, they are actually interested in the story, characters and art.

If a pervert buys this expecting a ton of loli-fanservice (ala Moetan) they are gonna end up extremely disappointed.



But anyway, going back to the anime.......

As always, I am curious to see how much the anime version will differ from it's manga counterpart. There's not a lot of manga material to go along, so I can only guess that they are not gonna skip on much stuff.
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Old 2007-09-19, 15:06   Link #10
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This isn't exclusively about girls' growth. Its main character in both stories is a girl, and thus it is more strongly focused on the girl's experience and her impressions, but it certainly deals with the guys as well. And it's not merely an educational piece, it portrays the actual experience and interactions typical to the age. Rather than seeing it as a girls' sex ed and therefore off-limits to males, why not look at it as a growing-up story that stays cleaner and more innocent than Kyou no Go no Ni could ever hope to be.
As I said before, we guys can relate to some of the issues the guys in these stories deal with, and the familiarity makes their different approaches all the more comical.
That said, I too wonder what and how much is going to cross over. To my knowledge, there's two stories, one having a transfer student of sorts who befriends the heroine and understands a lot about everything, and the other having a similarly knowledgeable alien observer masquerading as the new heroine's twin brother. I hope both come through, the contrast of how characters react to explanations coming from a boy or girl is worth it.
Any way, I suspect some of the funniest parts will be a little hard to carry over. For instance, after accidentally catching a pair of friends kissing, the heroine falls on top of a classmate, and both blush as one leg lands right between his legs. Then, as he runs off, she mutters "he's a boy...". Or at one point a girl turns furiously to a male classmate who'd been peeking in their shower room and yells at the top of her lungs, "Who are you calling smooth as a baby's bottom? I do TOO have hair!"

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Old 2007-12-30, 08:28   Link #11
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As posted by NeoSam in the Announced Anime thread, the website is now open: http://www.naitsubo.com

The Cast:
Tachibana Tsubomi - Nazuka Kaori
Endou Saya - Koshimizu Ami
Katou Rea - Kanda Akemi
Yamabuki Yae - Kobayashi Sanae
Nemoto Daiki - Shiraishi Ryouko
Kuki Futoshi - Miyata Kouki
Saegusa You - Saiga Mitsuki

An all-star cast, what can I say more
I'm in.
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Old 2008-04-20, 16:06   Link #12
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Just saw the new trailer for this looked good i'm loving the animation style has anyone heard about any groups subbing this show since it releases this week?
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Old 2008-04-20, 16:37   Link #13
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Were are not talking about porn here either.

But you are right in a sense. I have yet to see a character with lesbian tendencies in this title, so this certainly doesn't start like IM.

This manga has a lot of scenes that also show up on other shows, and if you ever bother checking it (in case you haven't), you'll realize that there's nothing dirty or disturbing about them (at least when you compare it with things we see in other shows). As a matter of fact, romance and comedy are actually very present in the story, so not every chapter is centered around sexuality.

At the end of the day, you can't really say anything as to why people are buying this title. Maybe they are perverts, maybe they are curious, maybe they just grab anything thats labeled as "popular" and maybe....... just maybe, they are actually interested in the story, characters and art.

If a pervert buys this expecting a ton of loli-fanservice (ala Moetan) they are gonna end up extremely disappointed.



But anyway, going back to the anime.......

As always, I am curious to see how much the anime version will differ from it's manga counterpart. There's not a lot of manga material to go along, so I can only guess that they are not gonna skip on much stuff.
The romance and comedy are on an incredible low level though. It expects you to be retarted. It's like hamtaro, but worse. >_>
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Old 2008-04-20, 17:58   Link #14
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The romance and comedy are on an incredible low level though. It expects you to be retarted. It's like hamtaro, but worse. >_>
It takes a light approach on both wich is hardly rare in anime nowdays. It also shows that not everything about this title is centered around sexuality; Heck, all I have seen of chapter two is comedy and the whole "deal" of volume 1 is pretty much tossed aside.

Things could change at any time, though.

I dont really understand the "retarded" comment you made, But I do know that once a person set his/her mind into hating something, there's really no turning back for them; So I am not even gonna bother with an argument here.

I am planning on watching this, and I hope that people can keep things civil and dont start to trow generalized insults at anyone who may want to watch this.

If someone want to trash this show, be my guess, if someone wants to label it as the worst title of the year, feel free to do so. I just hope the hate goes toward the show and not the people interested in this.

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Oh yeah, there's also a chance that I end up hating the show too. Volume 2 was a disappointment for me on many different levels. If the anime decides to go for a similar formula, I could easily be the first to ditch this. >_< !
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It takes a light approach on both wich is hardly rare in anime nowdays. It also shows that not everything about this title is centered around sexuality; Heck, all I have seen of chapter two is comedy and the whole "deal" of volume 1 is pretty much tossed aside.

Things could change at any time, though.

I dont really understand the "retarded" comment you made, But I do know that once a person set his/her mind into hating something, there's really no turning back for them; So I am not even gonna bother with an argument here.

I am planning on watching this, and I hope that people can keep things civil and dont start to trow generalized insults at anyone who may want to watch this.

If someone want to trash this show, be my guess, if someone wants to label it as the worst title of the year, feel free to do so. I just hope the hate goes toward the show and not the people interested in this.

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Oh yeah, there's also a chance that I end up hating the show too. Volume 2 was a disappointment for me on many different levels. If the anime decides to go for a similar formula, I could easily be the first to ditch this. >_< !
While not bad(wouldn't really know if little kids like this) it is aimed at little kids. It doesn't have anything to offer for older viewers unless you like shows aimed at kids like Hamtaro and the like. Yeah with the retarted thing I mean if you are 12 years old you need to be retarted hence have the mind of a kid to enjoy this. >_>
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While not bad(wouldn't really know if little kids like this) it is aimed at little kids.
Sorry but... Can you show me a link where it says that this show is aimed specifically at kids? Last time I checked, Shoujo an Slice of life were not genres exclusively aimed at a younger audience.

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It doesn't have anything to offer for older viewers unless you like shows aimed at kids like Hamtaro and the like.
This is just what you think. You may think the execution is childish, but this doesn't mean the show is childish per see.

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Yeah with the retarted thing I mean if you are 12 years old you need to be retarted hence have the mind of a kid to enjoy this. >_>
Another sad and extremely childish comment on your behalf.

Can't take anyone seriously when all they do is trow indirect insults toward people that may disagree with them.

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Btw, I keep saying the 'show', when I am obviously talking about the manga. If all this derailment continues, I may have to ask a mod to move all these post to the manga thread. >_< !
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Sorry but... Can you show me a link where it says that this show is aimed specifically at kids? Last time I checked, Shoujo an Slice of life were not genres exclusively aimed at a younger audience.



This is just what you think. You may think the execution is childish, but this doesn't mean the show is childish per see.



Another sad and extremely childish comment on your behalf.

Can't take anyone seriously when all they do is trow indirect insults toward people that may disagree with them.

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Btw, I keep saying the 'show', when I am obviously talking about the manga. If all this derailment continues, I may have to ask a mod to move all these post to the manga thread. >_< !
I read the damn manga...It is childish...Yes Shoujo an Slice of life are not neccecarily for the younger demografic, but this is. If you have read the manga you would know it's childish. It was direct insult to the series. If you like the series be my guest, but atleast accept some critizm on the series.

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Her worries are trivial and honestly the plot isn't anything deep either. No deep emotions or anything. If anything I'm just trying to point out people can rather check another title then this if they think this is a cute girls do cute things kinda title. It doesn't have anything going for it unless you are child and sexuality is new for you. If there's more feel free to explain.
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I read the damn manga...It is childish...Yes Shoujo an Slice of life are not for the younger demografic, but this is.
Again, this is just your opinion.

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If you have read the manga you would know it's childish. It was direct insult to the series. If you like the series be my guest, but atleast accept some critizm on the series.
My opinion and manga preferences do not have to be aligned with yours, you know! And I am obviously not rejecting your opinion, I am simply disagreeing with it.

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Her worries are trivial and honestly the plot isn't anything deep either. No deep emotions or anything. If anything I'm just trying to point out people can rather check another title then this if they think this is a cute girls do cute things kinda title. It doesn't have anything going for it.
Nothing to argue here, if you want to encourage others into watching something else, it's your call and your decision to do so.

At the end of the day, it's up to everyone to decide what shows they want to watch and what shows they dont want to watch.

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Wow, some random comment you decided to add at the end there...

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It doesn't have anything going for it unless you are child and sexuality is new for you. If there's more feel free to explain.
I am older than you and can safely say that this manga (Volume 1 at the very least) has a lot going for it (at least for me). You can't wave around your POV as if it where some sort of universal truth, you know?

Do try to have a bit more of perspective before making comments such as this.
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I am older than you and can safely say that this manga (Volume 1 at the very least) has a lot going for it (at least for me). You can't wave around your POV as if it where some sort of universal truth, you know?

Do try to have a bit more of perspective before making comments such as this.
That's my point what is it that makes it so intressting for someone older? Well duh it's my opinion what's the point in saying that it's an opinion? You know people on a forum state their opinions that's what they are all about you know?

On other are seriously saying this isn't childish ofcourse my opnion isn't for everyone. I'm pretty sure the majority does think this is childish.
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Episode 1 (raw) is out, and i'm quite satisfied with it. The manga's innocent cuteness well keeped on for the anime.
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