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Old 2011-12-10, 04:29   Link #6061
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I'm not sure we should pay people to die... Even ideally, that really isn't what insurance is for.
We do actually. In war time. But that is another kind of financial derivative called war bonds/debt.
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Old 2011-12-10, 04:53   Link #6062
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I'm not sure we should pay people to die... Even ideally, that really isn't what insurance is for.
I didn't mean it quite like that. Still it seems that a family being denied the money is punishing them for something they may have had no control or knowledge of. Either way, the guy is dead he isn't going to profit from it.

I just don't really think that such a safety net should be so conditional (unless it's murder). Since a family may be way worse off after a death. Preventing people from taking their own lives is a different matter all together. Since someone taking their life is usually probably not going to care two wits about life insurance.



Ganbaru, yeah, usually you just say you're going to your grand mothers funeral or something, maybe he started to run out of relatives.
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Old 2011-12-10, 05:05   Link #6063
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I didn't mean it quite like that. Still it seems that a family being denied the money is punishing them for something they may have had no control or knowledge of. Either way, the guy is dead he isn't going to profit from it.
Well, that's not the insurance's fault, is it?

Insurance is supposed to protect against risk. If a guy decides to die (as opposed to, well, anything else that happens against his will), then it's not a risk anymore, and he isn't buying insurance in good faith. I suppose stuff like depression makes it a gray area, but still... I have nothing against suicide itself (as long as you've discharged all your responsibilities), but I really don't think it's the insurance's job to encourage people to commit it.

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I just don't really think that such a safety net should be so conditional (unless it's murder). Since a family may be way worse off after a death. Preventing people from taking their own lives is a different matter all together. Since someone taking their life is usually probably not going to care two wits about life insurance.
On the contrary. He may see it as the only way to provide for his family.
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Old 2011-12-10, 05:41   Link #6064
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Desperation and depression make bad bed fellows I guess. Still like you said it's a grey area. I just don't like people being left to suffer for someone else's decision.
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Old 2011-12-10, 11:45   Link #6065
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Pennsylvania man fakes mom's obituary to get time off
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...12-09-22-55-13
That's a step farther than usual.
He did it as to not get fired for taking time off from work. Well, now he will definitely get fired (and probably be heavily fined or even imprisoned for his action).
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Old 2011-12-10, 17:24   Link #6066
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Old 2011-12-10, 17:47   Link #6067
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Hmm Interesting. Its a bit sad if the insurance company is fighting it, though hardly unexpected I guess.

Any time an insurance company has to pay anyone it warms my cynical little heart. Bet they fought that one Xellos mentioned. You guys get screwed over there with insurance it seems - particularly health.
the claim can't be fought on suicide ground since IT IS LEGAL.

Property, Life and Health insurance are all regulated differently. The Heatlh Insurance horror stories you hear abut don't applied to the Property of Life, they got their own.
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Old 2011-12-11, 00:24   Link #6068
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Property, Life and Health insurance are all regulated differently. The Heatlh Insurance horror stories you hear abut don't applied to the Property of Life, they got their own.
Is that supposed to be a good thing ?
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Old 2011-12-11, 02:18   Link #6069
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Old 2011-12-12, 02:14   Link #6070
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Old 2011-12-13, 04:06   Link #6071
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Old 2011-12-13, 04:51   Link #6072
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I think i gonna puke.
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Well, urine therapy is pretty common method, nothing to be surprised of
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Old 2011-12-13, 07:39   Link #6073
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Irreverent atheists crowdsource charitable giving
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Many donations were tagged with messages such as "Because god won't," "Good without god" or even "Good without Zeus."
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Old 2011-12-13, 08:24   Link #6074
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"Because god won't,"
That's a very good attitude from atheists! Depending on what kind of religious certain people are, they would also agree. I never believed God would just come down here and fix everything for us, we're supposed to do it ourselves by learning with guidance.

Essentially, I don't believe God would fix those problems for us either.
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Old 2011-12-13, 17:33   Link #6075
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China’s deserted fake Disneyland
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Old 2011-12-13, 19:40   Link #6076
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Old 2011-12-13, 23:36   Link #6077
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That's a very good attitude from atheists! Depending on what kind of religious certain people are, they would also agree. I never believed God would just come down here and fix everything for us, we're supposed to do it ourselves by learning with guidance.

Essentially, I don't believe God would fix those problems for us either.
If it exists, I think it is trolling the NATO-ing pastors by influencing his non-believing creations to contribute.
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Old 2011-12-14, 03:29   Link #6078
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Old 2011-12-14, 07:45   Link #6079
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HELL YEAH *ignores the note about fertility and chugs down more mountain dew*

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Old 2011-12-14, 08:10   Link #6080
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Chilean doctors separate conjoined twins
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