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Old 2009-07-12, 17:11   Link #1741
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Hmm I haven't read Harry Potter so I don't know exactly what is this Disney death that you talk about, but I'll assume it's cheesy I admit that I'm no literature buff and haven't read Shakespeare beyond what was required in school. So my expectations are probably rather low in that regard.
When you're throwing around TVTropes terminology, it's only polite to give the links.
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Old 2009-07-12, 17:42   Link #1742
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When you're throwing around TVTropes terminology, it's only polite to give the links.
heh fascinating link. thanks.
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Old 2009-07-12, 19:01   Link #1743
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I was under the impression that the terms I used have entered common critical parlance. Yes, I've heard Disney death thrown around for many many years, and of course many terms such as deus ex machina and redemption through love etc. are very old favorites. So digger314, apologies if I left you somewhere in the dark.

Yeah, TVTropes is quite an interesting site -- it really makes one think about how so many storytelling devices are so utterly common. The more I think about it, the more I've come to the conclusion that it's not what tropes one uses, but how one uses them that determines the effectiveness of a story.
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Old 2009-07-12, 21:06   Link #1744
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I had a rough idea of what it was, just not the specifics. It was enough to understand what you meant

Agreed about the point on the tvtropes site. I browsed around and saw pretty much everything could be considered a trope. Tropes aren't bad by themselves. Writers can't be expected to continually create unique and effective plot devices/character types because they still have to work within the bounds of reasonable human behavior and logic, so reuse is unavoidable.
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Old 2009-07-12, 21:16   Link #1745
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Tropes aren't bad by themselves.
We know.
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Old 2009-07-14, 23:09   Link #1746
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Nice arguments.
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Old 2009-07-15, 05:02   Link #1747
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um, digger314 could you the novel 17 summary pls
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Old 2009-07-17, 02:40   Link #1748
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um, digger314 could you the novel 17 summary pls
Not necessary. You can refer to Angrypokstick's summary at here. Although it is just the first part, pretty much you can get the gist of the Volume 17.
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Old 2009-07-25, 20:46   Link #1749
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Can someone help me translate the volume 19 summary

Spoiler for Novel 19 summary:
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Old 2009-07-25, 22:18   Link #1750
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Spoiler for Vol 19 preview:


Basically stuff we already know from 18.

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Old 2009-07-26, 23:13   Link #1751
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ohohohoho Sabrac fight #2 should be interesting
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Old 2009-07-26, 23:54   Link #1752
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Sounds exciting. So it's four Flame Haze against Sabrac?

I wonder what Dekarabia is planning...
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Old 2009-07-27, 02:27   Link #1753
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I think it's actually more than just the three extras mentioned. But it doesn't matter because the only purpose Sabrac will serve is to show how much more kick ass Shana has become. He will be cannon fodder merely another sacrifice in her ascension to godhood. .. err wait got carried away there.
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Old 2009-07-27, 02:46   Link #1754
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Well, Volume 19 will be released on September 10, 2009, right? Another long wait, but we have to be patient.

Regarding Round 2 against Sabrac, how would they be going to defeat him without the help of Margery Daw? The key person is Margery Daw, as the separation between the brain and body of Sabrac was done by her. It does not matter if you have 4 Flame Hazes or 20 Flame Hazes, as Sabrac can regenerate his power of existence at all times. The only thing we can be sure is that Stigma will not work this time. Neverthesless, this fight should be very interesting.

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So, you are saying that Shana has become so powerful that she will manage to defeat Sabrac, even before he manages to regenerate his power of existence, right?
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Old 2009-07-27, 07:40   Link #1755
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where is yuji heading to? and is margery really dead?
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Old 2009-07-27, 08:08   Link #1756
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So, it's official that the 19th volume will be the last one then?
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Old 2009-07-27, 11:11   Link #1757
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digger314:
So, you are saying that Shana has become so powerful that she will manage to defeat Sabrac, even before he manages to regenerate his power of existence, right?
well according to what I read (by digger), Shana's powers atm are almost at hax lvs so she would prob just freaking scorch the entire area where Sabrac's existence is rooted lol
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Old 2009-07-28, 02:13   Link #1758
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So, it's official that the 19th volume will be the last one then?
I really hope not. It is speculated that the Season III will start at Fall 2010. Given the usual schedule of 24 episodes, Season III will end at Summer 2011. As relentlessflame has mentioned, they want to time the third season to correspond with the end of the novels. As such, there should be more volumes to be released between September 10, 2009 till 2011.
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Old 2009-07-28, 08:41   Link #1759
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Another demonological name, "Decarabia". He definitely has the naming of Guze no Tomogara very consistently.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_theological_demons
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Old 2009-08-01, 00:21   Link #1760
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So, you are saying that Shana has become so powerful that she will manage to defeat Sabrac, even before he manages to regenerate his power of existence, right?
Yes I think Shana will wipe the floor with Sabrac. If she can't how is she gonna deal with the other 3 and Snake Yuji? She is on a whole different level now. Makes me wonder what is she really. We do know that she is somehow very special (ok she's the protagonist, but I'm talking about in-universe reasons). We'll probably get some revelation on that.

As for Margery, she is definitely not dead, just comatose. I'm not sure if her contract with Marchosias is still good though; will have to read the later volumes more carefully for that.
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