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Old 2006-05-07, 11:44   Link #241
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Old 2006-05-07, 11:50   Link #242
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From the website, she's American but of Chinese ethnicity.
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Old 2006-05-07, 16:15   Link #243
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If the 'pay-off' you are expecting for a typical Black Lagoon episode is the flash-bang Revy-kicking-ass action, then you're going to be sorely disappointed. But I thought the episode was rather intriguing, opening up another layer of Revy's weird personality. It would be interesting to see where this leads (although, it's possible to guess even now: some traumatizing event in the childhood is the most likely thing).
Or, if anyone have a chance to read the manga, he/she will find prolly after vol 1. of the manga, action has ceded to be the focus.
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Old 2006-05-07, 19:15   Link #244
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From the website, she's American but of Chinese ethnicity.


Just Like Master Sgt. Melissa Mao from FMP, eh?
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Old 2006-05-07, 19:53   Link #245
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Just Like Master Sgt. Melissa Mao from FMP, eh?
Yup, exactly, though I do recall that Revy was of mixed descent, although that is not immediately obvious by her appearance. The language issue in the manga is, as you might imagine, somewhat befuddled, but later on the mangaka stresses the fact that Revy's primary language is English (very fluent American English), and that she doesn't know a word of Japanese (hence she's been conversing with Rock all this time in English).

Whether Revy knows Chinese, and in what dialect, is uncertain.

Edit: A quick remark before I continue to reflect on episodes 4 and 5 in depth: The missiles launched by the Neo Nazis at Dutch's ship are indeed TOWs, as Benny cries out in warning. Fiber-optic wire guided anti-tank missiles, mounted on jeeps, infantry fighting vehicles like the M2 Bradley, and helicopters though the US has long since transitioned to Hellfires. The TOW is the most widely used and most produced anti-tank missile in existence.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...s/tow-pics.htm

In addition, the Iron Cross which Revy was looking for was actually a Knight's Cross, a fare more rare medal, and not just an Knight's cross with oak leaves, but as she later held it up, was a Knight's cross with oak leaves and swords, of which only 159 (according to Wikipedia) were ever awarded, in addition to Yamamoto Isoroku, who was an honorary recipient. In other words, this fictional U-boat captain must've been quite the submarine ace.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:RK_EK_mit_ol_sw.png

Out of curiosity, I also tried to find out how much Knight's Crosses would be worth today: One site specializing in German medals sold a regular Knight's Cross (the lowest/plainest of the Knight's cross order, some 7900 awarded) for $10,000. There were several other Knight's Crosses available, with going rate of average $10,000 dollars. If one does the math, (some 300,000 Iron Cross 1st classes awarded, costing roughly $450 dollars on average) assuming any surviving authentic Knight's Crosses with Oak Leaves and Swords are available for sale... oh I dunno, several hundred thousand, half a million dollars maybe? More if the original owner was famous and could be certified as such.

http://www.leisuregalleries.com/KC65cased.html
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Old 2006-05-08, 11:20   Link #246
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In addition, the Iron Cross which Revy was looking for was actually a Knight's Cross, a fare more rare medal, and not just an Knight's cross with oak leaves, but as she later held it up, was a Knight's cross with oak leaves and swords, of which only 159 (according to Wikipedia) were ever awarded, in addition to Yamamoto Isoroku, who was an honorary recipient. In other words, this fictional U-boat captain must've been quite the submarine ace.
I guess that's why he was chosen for the special mission...


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:RK_EK_mit_ol_sw.png

Out of curiosity, I also tried to find out how much Knight's Crosses would be worth today: One site specializing in German medals sold a regular Knight's Cross (the lowest/plainest of the Knight's cross order, some 7900 awarded) for $10,000. There were several other Knight's Crosses available, with going rate of average $10,000 dollars. If one does the math, (some 300,000 Iron Cross 1st classes awarded, costing roughly $450 dollars on average) assuming any surviving authentic Knight's Crosses with Oak Leaves and Swords are available for sale... oh I dunno, several hundred thousand, half a million dollars maybe? More if the original owner was famous and could be certified as such.

http://www.leisuregalleries.com/KC65cased.html
Wow...

I wonder if Levi has managed to keep her swag bag... I didn't notice when I first watched the ep and I haven't re-watched it completely...
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Old 2006-05-08, 22:53   Link #247
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Spoiler for Ep.5:
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Old 2006-05-08, 23:15   Link #248
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I must say, episodes 4 and 5 combine to be quite interesting. Sure its slow, but the detailed graphics really shine through, particularly in the flashback with the German U-boat. In addition, the heart-to-heart that Revy and Rock have in the hull constitutes one of the better artistic moments of drama that I've seen in anime; Revy's seiyuu does a very fine job breaking out the truths she's come to rely upon to Rock's naievety.

Very fine episodes, the Nazis were annoying, but the TOWs they shot were hawt. $180,000 a pop, those things.
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Old 2006-05-09, 00:12   Link #249
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The action may have slowed down for a bit in these last two episodes, but I especially like the attention to detail. Episodes 4 and 5 just look so well-drawn; it's as if the staff took their sweet time with them.
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Old 2006-05-10, 19:00   Link #250
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So while we're waiting for the English subs, a few very quality cos-play pics to keep this thread higher up in the order of things...

Spoiler for Not a bad real life Revy, not at all:
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Old 2006-05-11, 01:42   Link #251
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So while we're waiting for the English subs, a few very quality cos-play pics to keep this thread higher up in the order of things...

Spoiler for Not a bad real life Revy, not at all:

Not bad, really not bad...in fact really pretty hot :P
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Old 2006-05-11, 04:39   Link #252
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Not bad, really not bad...in fact really pretty hot :P
I second that.

Now how about pics of her, weilding an M79 and an SMG?
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Old 2006-05-11, 05:02   Link #253
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So while we're waiting for the English subs, a few very quality cos-play pics to keep this thread higher up in the order of things...

Spoiler for Not a bad real life Revy, not at all:
I'd definitely hit it,
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Old 2006-05-11, 06:49   Link #254
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So while we're waiting for the English subs, a few very quality cos-play pics to keep this thread higher up in the order of things...

Spoiler for Not a bad real life Revy, not at all:
She's hot!
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Old 2006-05-12, 20:16   Link #255
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More of the lady from last time:

Spoiler for The hottest item is not Revi this time, surprisingly...:
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Old 2006-05-12, 21:39   Link #256
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More of the lady from last time:

Spoiler for The hottest item is not Revi this time, surprisingly...:
YOU ARE A GOD!!

Revi is hot.

Group shot is really spoilerish.
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Old 2006-05-13, 01:51   Link #257
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Are you sure about that "30mm" bit? I'm having a hard time imagining that the Mi-24's armour can shrug off 30mm HEDP or SAPHE ammo. Maybe the Hind might survive a few hits in less-vital spots from 30mm shells and fly back to base for repairs, but I just can't see it being capable of a gunnery duel with a 2S6 or ZSU-30-2...
I serious doubt that too. A lot of Mi-24 got killed by 30mm rounds in Afghanistan. They fall like a rock once the rotor or engine got hit. From some military sites it stated that it can only take 20mm rounds.

The following is from other post I read…

I am not sure how thick the glass is on the Mi-24 but I have my doubts that it will protect the pilot from a .50BMG (12.7mm) AP round. A .50BMG AP can go through 1 inch of A2 steel plate without deforming. Anyway you don’t used a sniper rifle to take out a high-speed vehicle like a halo. It’s very unpractical and the chance of hitting are very slim if you even get it on your scope. What is needed is a big volume of lead in an area where the vehicle is traveling.

Gunships are airborn artillery units of love. The Mi-24 Hind is an assault helicopter that can carry 8 troops. Helicopter of any kind are not gunship. The AC-130 Specter is a gunship and you do not want to get hit by one.

The general term that is used in all AK variants is called Kalashnikov. It is name after her creator Mikhail Timofeyevich Kalashnikov. AK stands for Avotmat Kalashnikov and the number is the year it started manufacture. I believe the term “Krinkov” started on the internet boards like AK-47.net to distinguish (shorthand) between an normal Kalashnikov and the sub-machinegun (Krinkov) version of it.

1" A2 Harden Steel Plate vs .50BMG AP




AC-130 Gunships Pictures:
http://air.xuexue.net/attacker/eng/ac130.htm
http://images.google.com/images?hs=9...-8&sa=N&tab=wi
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Old 2006-05-14, 05:23   Link #258
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Episode 6 - Moonlit Hunting Grounds

Wow... I was impressed with the first half of ep 6:
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Looks like next week's ep is titled "Calm Down, Two Men" though seems to be mostly/entirely about Revi and Rock and them getting pissed off with eachother.
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Old 2006-05-14, 10:24   Link #259
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Episode 6 was quite good as the ending of the whole "Neo-Nazi" mini-arc. It was just as depressive and moody as the first two, keeping the atmosphere intact, but it also featured more action and had a good and fitting conclusion to this part of Revy's relationship with Rock.

Interplay between Revy and Dutch was also believable and serious. I liked the way their characters are evolving (although, it's only evolution to us, since they've probably been this way ever since they started getting involved in piracy together).
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Old 2006-05-15, 03:29   Link #260
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Episode 6: Would like to point the obvious (but still interesting) symbolism at the very end, as Revi makes the somber statement that "Rock's from 'over there,' not from 'our side'" and that she just can't partner with him, and as she speaks, the shadows she stands in and the light that Rock is bathed in.

Next episode should be the most relationship development that we'll ever see for Rock and Revi in the series.

I've got picks of Real-life Revi with the M79 grenade launcher, will post it after my finals in 6 hours. Sleep now, Cal-Reflector out.

Edit: If I were Dutch and Revi, I'd loot the massive armory on the Nazi ship for weapons and ammo. If they took a few units of those TOW anti-tank missiles with them, they could sell em' on the black market for a few hundred-thousand dollars each...
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