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Old 2006-10-02, 22:55   Link #681
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It is _definitely_ the creepiest episode of Black Lagoon I've ever seen. The tone of this one episode seemed almost like Blood+ more than Black Lagoon. All in all it was quite a good episode, I thought. Though it is primarily a setup for what I'm assuming is probably going to be at least a three episode arc (including this episode). I'm kind of glad they kept the numbering - hopefully Geneon R1s will work like Girls Bravo and just treat it as one series.
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Old 2006-10-02, 23:06   Link #682
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i hate it when people complain about barely noticable things, like character models being slightly off. it just comes off so arrogant and pretentious. it's an action show people, not Miyazaki!


moving along...

this is a good arc so far, reminds me of "Pierrot Le Fou"(sp?) from Cowboy Bebop. also the nun is back
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Old 2006-10-02, 23:15   Link #683
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I think it's a good start. I actually like the slow pace amidst the eerie atmosphere, and it has a touch of terror and foreshadowing that skillfully portrays the characters of Hansel and Gretel. These two aren't like Shenhua and Roberta—who are more of your direct, in-your-face femme fatales—so the approach in this episode is just what the story requires. Moreover, it's not as if they pulled some punches when it came to the action sequences.

On another note, Balalaika proves once again that she owns my soul.
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Old 2006-10-03, 02:34   Link #684
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Creppy indeed. But as long as i can watch Bl agai i don't mind how they make it

oh and i forgot Nightengale : of course she did
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Old 2006-10-03, 07:37   Link #685
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Spoiler for Extremely light manga spoiler:
No, it was done exactly the same in the manga.

The twins are in the top tier of unstoppable killers in all of Black Lagoon episodes, on par with the levels of Mr. Chan and Roberta, so I'm excited to see them animated.

Btw, this is the first time I've seen Tomoko Kaneda's name associated with FEAR.
(voice actress known for roles like Chiyo-chan in Azumanga)
Never seen her so freaking creepy o_O

I hope they animate my favorite story arc, the long Japan arc.
EDIT: Well, nevermind. I just read post about how the second season is going to flow...
Spoiler for minor spoiler about the order of the second season:

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Old 2006-10-03, 07:49   Link #686
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No, it was done exactly the same in the manga.
I think I missed it. Or forgot about it. Whatever. Thanks. Majek as well.

The twins are simply crazy (( Understandably why, considering what they went through )). That's all there is to it.
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Old 2006-10-03, 08:11   Link #687
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Just what i thought, the feeling of this just being straight after the last series is all there - just what i wanted.

Anyway, of course great episode - good to see the OP hasen't changed, and that the musical score is staying the same. Shall have to rewatch the episode tonight to double enjoy it~
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Old 2006-10-03, 08:25   Link #688
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Creppy indeed. But as long as i can watch Bl agai i don't mind how they make it

oh and i forgot Nightengale : of course she did
Actually I think the creepy atmosphere added a lot to it. It was one of my favorite things about the episode, it definitely distinguishes the twins from the others we've seen - and it didn't detract from the one brief action scene at all.
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Old 2006-10-03, 09:19   Link #689
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Twins... creepy... D:

究極の愛はカニバリズムだと言ったのは?Edgar Allen Poe?
違うよ、姉様。彼はネクロフィリアだったんだ。
Richard Matheson.
だったかもしれないね。

D:
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So why do people fight, anyway?
Perhaps the meaning of existence lies within their will to fight.
People feel a sense of accomplishment through battle.
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Old 2006-10-03, 09:55   Link #690
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I asked around. Apparently that song's name is called...Mother Goose. DX Is that some kind of sick joke?

My mother has killed me,
My father is eating me,
My brothers and sisters sit under the table,
picking up my bones, And they bury them.


And so on. 0_0
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Old 2006-10-03, 10:17   Link #691
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Interesting how they changed it... the original is:

My mother has killed me,
My father is eating me,
My brothers and sisters sit under the table,
Picking up bury them under the cold marble stones


D:
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戦うことに存在意義があるのかもしれない。
戦っている人間には充実感がある。
そして、戦っている人間が汚れて見えないのも事実だ」

So why do people fight, anyway?
Perhaps the meaning of existence lies within their will to fight.
People feel a sense of accomplishment through battle.
And it’s also a fact that the ones actually fighting are never perceived as being tainted.
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Old 2006-10-03, 11:38   Link #692
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So what number is the latest chapter? 42? 43?

And someone asked which weapon Greatel is using : It's a Browning BAR M1918A2.
and it seems that the bonus content of Volume 5 lists guns important chars are using with pics and descriptions.
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Old 2006-10-03, 11:46   Link #693
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shouldn't there be another one called "Goat, Jihad Rock N Roll" or something like that? are they skipping it?
No. They shuffled the episodes around.
Goat, Jihad Rock N Roll was the last two episodes of the first season.

There's a LOT of shuffling around done to the first season.
For example, In the original manga, the Roberta episodes happened BEFORE the Neo Nazi episodes. The cigar kiss episode came after the Nazi episodes, then went right into the Twins episodes. After the twins story arc, the Mr. Chan's delivery to CIA episode (Goat, Jihad Rock N Roll) came.

BTW, they edited that story arc (Jihad) heavily in the anime.
In the original manga, the guys coming for their "picnic plan" was the Islamic extremist organization "Hezbollah".
However, using real terroist organization's name was a bit risky for TV, so they didn't reveal the name of the organization in the anime.

Also to note is that Black Lagoon is NOT taking place present day.
It's taking place in the late 1990s.

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So what number is the latest chapter? 42? 43?
It should be up to chapter 46. (This month's Sunday GX didn't have BL)
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Old 2006-10-03, 12:05   Link #694
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However, using real terroist organization's name was a bit risky for TV, so they didn't reveal the name of the organization in the anime.
It was quite obvious who Ibraha was working for, since he said that he and Takenaka first met in the Beqaa Valley.

It was also hinted that their goal was to assassinate the U.S. President (I might be wrong here, but I think it was heavily hinted at). The list carried by Rock was the names and locations of the agents in this operation.
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Old 2006-10-03, 12:29   Link #695
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It was quite obvious who Ibraha was working for, since he said that he and Takenaka first met in the Beqaa Valley.

It was also hinted that their goal was to assassinate the U.S. President (I might be wrong here, but I think it was heavily hinted at). The list carried by Rock was the names and locations of the agents in this operation.
Hinting at a "generic islamic terrorist group"
and actually USING a real organization's name is totally diffrent thing, my friend.
The danger behind the two is significantly diffrent.

It's interesting that chinese "triad" isn't considered nearly as risky to use,
considering the generic nature of the term "chinese triad".
However, they did use acutual real organization names within the triad in the anime.
Profit-driven mafias are less of a political danger to make fiction out of.
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Old 2006-10-03, 12:34   Link #696
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Pointing the finger straight at Lebanon is fairly non-generic, in my opinion. The other matter, of course, is the fact that not every anime viewer might get the hints...

Also, they did name FARC directly (Roberta's people). Takenaka's affiliation with the Japanese Red Army was also clear from many flashback shots.
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Old 2006-10-05, 19:37   Link #697
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The anime had Ada call Revy by her Kanji name pronounciations (二挺拳銃) instead of the furigana name (トゥーハンド), so that was a little weird for me.
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Old 2006-10-05, 20:38   Link #698
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The anime had Ada call Revy by her Kanji name pronounciations (二挺拳銃) instead of the furigana name (トゥーハンド), so that was a little weird for me.
I thought it was perfect for her to pronounce it that way in order to tease her.
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Old 2006-10-05, 22:29   Link #699
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I thought it was perfect for her to pronounce it that way in order to tease her.
Perhaps, although the first season has also done something similar (三合会 [トライアド] --> さんごうかい). Maybe these are attempts taken by the production team intending to make the show a little more relevent to the Japanese audience.
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Old 2006-10-06, 12:43   Link #700
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I'm a bit late on the series. But on episode 12:

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Sorry about my english.
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