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Old 2010-04-14, 17:29   Link #841
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If you count scouting as a trainer's important job, then Miguel is good. But as long as it comes to training alone...Yeah, I agree so far he sucks. I don't believe he has ever given any useful advices to his boxers in the ring.

Wait, now that I think about it, Kamogawa or any other trainers never appear to be much useful during the matches either
Well Kamogawa actually trains Ippo, it's because of the training and advices that Ippo keeps winning.
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Old 2010-04-14, 17:34   Link #842
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Well Kamogawa actually trains Ippo, it's because of the training and advices that Ippo keeps winning.
Yes, that's the thing. We never really see how other trainers train their boxers either. We only see them doing their job at the ring. Most of the time they either merely cheer the fighters on, or give advices that "I'm sure he already knows that by himself."

In reality trainers are important (during the game) in all sports, but I guess it's just hard to portray them as such in a boxing manga, compare to a soccer or basketball manga.
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Old 2010-04-14, 17:36   Link #843
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Yes, that's the thing. We never really see how other trainers train their boxers either. We only see them doing their job at the ring. Most of the time they either merely cheer the fighters on, or give advices that "I'm sure he already knows that by himself."

In reality trainers are important (during the game) in all sports, but I guess it's just hard to portray them as such in a boxing manga, compare to a soccer or basketball manga.
Well, we kinda see some kind of training, but it's not as strict and hands on as Kamogawa. Well except for Miata's dad.

Miguel is a sham, he can find a good boxer but he's failed to train the two that we've seen. Miguel is more like a talent agent than a couch/trainer.
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Old 2010-04-14, 20:11   Link #844
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Yeah, we've seen him with three different boxers and he failed with all three of them. I don't know why Morikawa keeps dragging him out there to be repeatedly humiliated. Maybe he's there to make Kamogawa look good. Not necessarily in a "Stupid American Can't Do What Mighty Japanese Can" way, but in a contemporaries/rivals way.
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Old 2010-04-14, 21:39   Link #845
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Probably it's more of Miguel can't beat Kamogawa then and until now. Since Kamogawa has more heart, power and chin in his prime than any of the boxers in HNI will ever have, though Ippo as a main character will be his successor.

Though still those love taps Ippo gave are not that convincing....Or probably like in the Shimakiburo o r whaterever the short fish guy's name is....In that match where he landed a few soft punches in his head, then out came the "ULTIMATE PUNCH" which staggered the fish dude.

Possible Ippo has perfected the ULTIMATE PUNCH.
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Old 2010-04-20, 09:53   Link #846
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just watched the 891 raw on youtube. It looks like it about the fight will end in a few chapters.

woli legs are really screwed
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Old 2010-04-20, 17:02   Link #847
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This match still continues...
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Old 2010-04-20, 19:28   Link #848
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Ippo also probably has the hardest groin there is.



That is not the way to FAP
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Old 2010-04-21, 05:47   Link #849
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Old 2010-04-21, 19:54   Link #850
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Ippo also probably has the hardest groin there is.

That is not the way to FAP
That's the way to prevent yourself from fapping.
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Old 2010-04-22, 07:04   Link #851
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They should like have a DOUBLE KO in the 10th round =D

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Old 2010-04-22, 11:57   Link #852
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Ho ho ho... Woli always talks about studying and learning but Miguel should have studied Ippo a little more... then he should have known about what the Monkey is going to meet and would have told him that what he is up to do isn't a such good idea.

Spoiler for 892:

Blood is coming.
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Old 2010-04-22, 12:26   Link #853
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Just imagining a Dempsey Roll on a person who isn't use to getting hit sends shivers up my spine.
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Old 2010-04-22, 14:31   Link #854
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And since he is in the corner, as genious as he may be he can not back off enough to pull out a counter like Vorg or Ryuhei did.
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Old 2010-04-23, 00:27   Link #855
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He'll attempt some serious swaying like we saw earlier, but given how that requires some use of his legs, I bet we'll see glancing blows, mixed in with 'I cannot dodge, so I must block', plus of course Ippo's trademark block-breaking punches.
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Old 2010-04-23, 08:32   Link #856
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Just imagining a Dempsey Roll on a person who isn't use to getting hit sends shivers up my spine.
There will be blood.....heads will fly.....
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Old 2010-04-23, 08:40   Link #857
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There will be blood.....heads will fly.....
Indeed, Judgement Day will literally fall on that bastard Woli, I hate him so much
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Indeed, Judgement Day will literally fall on that bastard Woli, I hate him so much
Woli is cheap. He's like one of those bosses in a video game who spams this super cheap move all the time that you can't avoid no matter how hard you try. Think Eddy Gordo in Tekken. Cheapest. Character. Ever.
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Old 2010-04-25, 17:30   Link #859
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Christie and Gordo have the same moves btw. Though Eddy has lower HP and Christie as lesser damage.

But Enough Tekken talk!

I wanna see a (Kamogawa)TEKKEN-DEMPSY-ROLL in Woli's ribs.

The aching ribs will be a factor I tell you on Woli's counter attempt.
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Old 2010-04-26, 07:34   Link #860
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Don't forget that Miyata managed to pull out a linghting Jolt counter on RBJ with despite of a completely destroyed ribcage.
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