I've watched a funsubbed version of episode 18 made by a certain funsub group and found a strange translation.
What Nagisa said after she ran away is "Gomen nasai. Dame nan desune, Watashi ja", which means "I'm sorry. (Your action means) I'm useless, right?" She asked for confirmation there. I think the phrase doesn't mean "I'm sorry. In the end. I cannot do it" (this is the translation I found) under any context. Grammatically speaking, the latter part of the phrase is an inverted sentence which is a bit difficult form. (The normal order is "Watashi ja dame nandesune?") Maybe the translators tried their best. But I wonder why they inserted the words "in the end" that didn't exist in the original and removed the question tag "ne". The translation is equivalent to "Watashi ha kekkyoku damedesu." That sounds an admission. I'm afraid the line was completely changed.
Since English is my second language, I'm not sure I'm right. Then here is my question. Can the translation, which seems to me to be just an apology for her runnning away, convey her despair to the audience?
"ne" in Japanese has 2 meanings. it means "right/correct" and is also sometimes (but not often) used as "why?"
Im no Japanese expert but most of the time translating Japanese into English is more art than science. sometimes there isn't an English equivalant to Japanese phrases and so translators have to improvise the best they can. hense forth sometimes there is a bad dubbed/subbed phrase.
"ne" in Japanese has 2 meanings. it means "right/correct" and is also sometimes (but not often) used as "why?"
Im no Japanese expert but most of the time translating Japanese into English is more art than science. sometimes there isn't an English equivalant to Japanese phrases and so translators have to improvise the best they can. hense forth sometimes there is a bad dubbed/subbed phrase.
Actually "ne" has several uses. One common use I see is something like the expresssion "Hey" when getting someone's attention. eg "Ano ne" is sometimes used to initiate a conversation (something along the lines of "You know what?" or "Hey listen here...").
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Well, here we only have the crushed low-self-esteem girl Nagisa. There's nothing she'd have to apologize to Tamao for.
I mean, Nagisa's apologize that time was more to Shizuma, not to Tamao. But she was too scared to say it in front of Shizuma and poured it all out to Tamao.
Imagine that you can't stand beside your beloved one when she need you because of your own feeling that you keep for her. And when she break down, you can't comfort her. You ran away from her.
Nagisa, in this position, probably felt very guilty. I think this was what that made Nagisa's apologize so painful. And emo
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Originally Posted by htsuji
As for Shizuma, I'm not sure whether she thinks Nasisa is just a replacement for Kaori. But, I have a feeling that she doesn't deeply care who Nagisa is, at least so far. She was (or acted like she was) a woman chaser before Nagisa came to the school. According to the rumor Tamao referred to at the last one minute of episode 2, when Shizuma had a new girlfriend, their relationship wouldn't last more than a month. Also, Miyuki repeatedly warned Shizuma in the earlier episodes that her act could hurt Nagisa. Nagisa is not the first girl chosen to be her new girlfriend after Kaori's death.
It is true that Shizuma has become more serious than she used to be and Nagisa is now something more special for her than the others. But, what she planned to do in episode 17 and 18, which turned into failure, seemed to come mainly from her desire to be freed from the past, not from her love for Nagisa. Of course this is just my personal interpretation and I wouldn't like to blame Shizuma. She has her own reason. I feel sorry for both of them.
So Shizuma just 'used' Nagisa to be freed from her past?
I think it's the opposite. Shizuma wanted to be freed from her past because now Nagisa comes and bring colours to her world.
In my opinion, Shizuma is feeling uneasy because now, she has two people that she care the most in her heart, Kaori and Nagisa. Kaori has already passed away, and now Nagisa is there for her. And because of her feelings to Nagisa, Shizuma wanted to confess everything so she can be relieved from the pain of Kaori's death.
(Like : "OK Kaori, I've told all about you to my new beloved one, Nagisa. Now rest in peace in heaven. I'll live my life and be happy for you too.")
But she failed.
Shizuma may gave the Mansion key to Nagisa, but Kaori still keep the key to Shizuma's heart.
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Originally Posted by htsuji
Can the translation, which seems to me to be just an apology for her runnning away, convey her despair to the audience?
Isn't the phrase "I'm useless, right?" also shows Nagisa's despair to us and Shizuma? I think both Serin's and your phrase match this scene pretty well.
And Strawberry Panic Drama CD Summary. Credit to akayuuki
Spoiler for Strawberry Panic Drama CD, Miator Compilation:
Track 1 : プロローグ [Prologue]
The track started with Nagisa asking Shizuma the colour of the teacup she wanted, suddenly, Shizuma hugged Nagisa. Nagisa half-heartedly told Shizuma to let go of her because she dropped the spoon. Shizuma told Nagisa not to move and not to feel embarrassed because they were alone in the greenhouse anyways. Shizuma commented that Nagisa's hair smelt soo nice. The moment was spoilt when Nagisa realized that the water was boiling and moved out of Shizuma's hug. Flustered, Nagisa began to stumble about preparing the table for tea and left, leaving Shizuma amused by Nagisa's actions. - Insert Drama CD title, Strawberry Panic! [Miator Compilation] Drama CD, Older Sister and Underwear -
Chiyo went over to visit Nagisa and Tamao's room [Probably to do some studying] only to find from Tamao that Nagisa's at the greenhouse. Tamao said that because Shizuma's helpers/classmates, Hitomi and Mizuho caught colds, Nagisa had gone to help out. Chiyo repeated, 'Oh both of them huh.', [Sounds FISHY to me LOL]. Tamao then asked Chiyo if she would like tea and cookies then began to serve her, while doing so, Tamao began mumbling and grumbling about Nagisa leaving her alone in the room on a Sunday. Tamao added that Nagisa and Shizuma were getting closer and once they were having lunch together and looked like lovers! While Tamao's left alone having lunch by herself, 'I felt so lonely.', Tamao said lol.
Back in the greenhouse, Shizuma thanked Nagisa for helping out. Nagisa replied that it wasn't a problem as she likes flowers anyways. Shizuma asked Nagisa to come help out again tomorrow and Nagisa agreed. Shizuma then said that tomorrow when the task's done, where should they go? Nagisa repeated, 'W-we?' 'Yes, we, a place where no one would be, only us', Shizuma replied. Shizuma suggested to go to the sea. Nagisa excitedly told Shizuma how she liked the sea. Shizuma said she likes it too, so it's the promise then? Nagisa agreed. Suddenly, it started raining. - END of Track 1 -
Track 2 : にわか雨 [Shower]
Tamao commented that it was such a fine day just now but now it began to rain heavily. Chiyo and Tamao began worrying about Nagisa. - Back in the greenhouse - Shizuma said that the rain's heavy but would probably stop in an hour's time. Then Shizuma invited Nagisa to sit beside her. Shizuma asked Nagisa if she likes the rain and continued that she likes the rain. [I don't understand the reason Shizuma said that she liked the rain, something about the umbrella or something ... anyone please enlighten me on it.] After stating the reason, Shizuma told Nagisa that she's lying and that she hated the rain because it makes her feel lonely. However, today was alright because she had Nagisa with her if Nagisa would be with her, she might like the rain.
Nagisa suddenly bolted up and said something about flowers in the rain ... but Shizuma wouldn't let her off. Shizuma asked Nagisa if she's afraid of her, Nagisa started to say no but Shizuma said that Nagisa's expression just now told her she was. Shizuma told Nagisa to look at her, said that Nagisa's cute and told her not to be afraid. Nagisa began describing Shizuma's beautiful eyes and her feelings while Shizuma probably pushed her down on the seat and moved closer. Nagisa described Shizuma's lips were coming closer ... suddenly the door slided out and Nagisa gasped. Shizuma murmured, Miyuki? Nagisa excused herself and ran out. Miyuki lectured Shizuma about her actions but Shizuma just smirked and said something about loving the flowers? [Not sure about this.]
Nagisa ran all the way back to Ichigo-sha and her heart's still thumping from before ... [She ran duhhhh -.-|||] Chiyo saw Nagisa and said that she was about to bring an umbrella to Nagisa. Chiyo began to blame herself for not bringing the umbrella to Nagisa earlier. Nagisa brought out her handkerchief to dry Chiyo's tears. In Chiyo's mind, she thought how kind Nagisa Onee-sama was and something about the rain and the handkerchief. Nagisa sneezed and Chiyo told Nagisa to dry herself quickly before she caught a cold. Chiyo called after Nagisa about returning the handkerchief but Nagisa had already left.
Nagisa entered the room, Tamao asked what happened and began to start taking off Nagisa's wet clothes before she caught a cold. [LoL, Nagisa was like Iyaaa, I could take it off myself, no, not there, onegai Tamao-chan~~] After Tamao's done, Tamao asked for the reason, Nagisa said, nothing happened. Tamao retorted that Nagisa would had not run in the rain ... unless something happened in the greenhouse? Nagisa changed the subject saying she's going to shower and went to the bathroom. [I don't understand what Tamao said later ... as she reckoned what happened in the greenhouse. A wild guess, Tamao thought Shizuma had forced kiss Nagisa?]
In the shower, Nagisa remembered what happened earlier + a little more fanservice sounds and was relieved Rokujou had interupted however she thought to herself what would had happened if Rokujou had not. Outside the shower room, Tamao said something about the uniform [I'm not sure] but it was important enough for Nagisa to stop the shower and opened the shower door to stop Tamao to return it to her. Tamao said in a rather sheepish voice that Nagisa's big. Nagisa went eh? looked down ... went ahhh and closed the door. Nagisa behind the doors was thinking ... mou Tamao-chan, then she thought about Tamao saying that her chest's big and giggled in this pleased tone [LOL!]. However, Tamao said that Nagisa still had a lot more to go... and looked forward to it. - END of Track 2 -
Track 3 : 白くない下着 [Non-White Underwear]
Tamao and Nagisa went to the laundary room and saw Shizuma going out this late at night. Tamao said, don't tell she's going to the pool? Nagisa went 'Eh? Pool?'. Tamao told Nagisa that there were rumours of Shizuma swimming naked in the pool every night. Nagisa went, 'Naked?!'. Tamao repeated yep, no clothes at all [LOL]. Nagisa was like 'Really~ No clothes at all?!'. Nagisa then fantasized Shizuma ... coming out of the pool murmuring that the water's great. Nagisa's mumblings and all was heard by Shizuma. Shizuma then realized that it's Nagisa and relaxed. Shizuma commented that the moon's beautiful then invited Nagisa to swim with her. Shizuma urged her by saying that there's no one around, the water's great, come, there's nothing to be embarrassed about as there's only the two of us ... ended with Nagisa making this misleading sound lol.
Tamao shook Nagisa outta her dreams, saying that her face's red. Nagisa, embarrassed giving an excuse that they better get going. At the laundary room, Nagisa found some colourful underwears ... [Only white underwears are allowed in the schools, I wonder why ...] some were even so skimpy that Nagisa wondered if it's really underwear LOL. Tamao deduced that the undergarments belonged to a senior because of the sizes. Etoile-sama? or Rokujou-sama? Maybe Toumori-sama? [Shion] Don't tell me Chikaru-sama? Nagisa told Tamao to stop guessing and they went on to finish what they were doing.
After finishing, they left the room, Tamao told Nagisa to wait and began to guess the one entering the room to be the owner of the underwears. First, Chikaru entered ... Tamao began to talk excitingly as expected of Chikaru. Nagisa said something I don't understand which made Tamao's theory of Chikaru being the owner of the underwears wrong. Shion arrived next but it's not her ... Tamao narrowed the suspects to Rokujou and Etoile ... unexpectly Rokujou called Nagisa and Tamao's name. Rokujou asked what were they doing, they replied nothing and Rokujou told them, well if nothing, please return to your rooms. They greeted goodnight and left. Tamao then concluded that ah, it's must be Rokujou's ... then a sound of key turning was heard. [I don't understand what Nagisa and Tamao said after the key scene.]
Bedtime, Tamao teased Nagisa for the underwears she wore [Polka dots, chick patterns, strawberry patterns, bear patterns~] Nagisa got angry and grabbed the undergarments away. Nagisa wondered to herself if she's too childish, then she wondered what kind of undergarments Shizuma would wear ... must be silk and laces ... but anything Shizuma wore would be pretty ... Nagisa gasped about what's thinking about ... Nagisa then realized she lost her handkerchief and wondered where she placed it. - END of Track 3 -
Track 4 : 千代の想い [Chiyo's Thoughts]
Chiyo's wrapping up the handkerchief Nagisa lent to her to dry her tears back in Track 2. Chiyo wished to be closer to her Nagisa Onee-sama someday. Chiyo began fantasizing Nagisa calling her cute and telling her that she likes her and Nagisa's warm lips ... what am I doing, Chiyo gasped [LoL]. Chiyo told herself to return the handkerchief to Nagisa tomorrow. The next day, Tamao left the room for I dunno what reason, then she ran back to the room, panicking about something not being there. Tamao shook Nagisa awake, the sleepy Nagisa refused to wake up.
Looking at Nagisa's sleeping face, Tamao was like, kawaii ne~~ Tamao then proceed to tease Nagisa with a feather in various places [Ears then neck] to wake her up. Nagisa finally woke up, yelling that it's itchy. Tamao greeted Nagisa morning. Nagisa then lectured Tamao for waking her up like that and had told her before to stop doing that. Tamao just went awww, I knew it, Nagisa's fuming face's beautiful. Nagisa just went ... mou ... -.-|||. Tamao then recalled the reason she came back to the room and told Nagisa about it. Chiyo's waiting for Nagisa to return the handkerchief to her. Nagisa and Tamao arrived and Chiyo wanted to return it to her ... but Chiyo thought to herself that the handkerchief was a link between Nagisa Onee-sama and her ... so she wished to hold on to it a little longer. She told Nagisa nothing then Nagisa and Tamao left leaving Chiyo alone thinking that she would return it but later.
St Lulim's, Kizuna and Lemon arrived, Kizuna began commenting how cute the paperbag Chiyo's holding, Lemon asked what's inside? Is it a present? Chikaru arrived to save Chiyo from the intense questioning from Kizuna and Lemon. After Kizuna and Lemon left, Chikaru went, ne, who are you giving it to? [LOL.] Chiyo went speechless as did this eh, iya, ano, eto sound aha. Chikaru smiled and said, well, it's nice to have someone to like hm? Then Chikaru left, making this lalala-ing sound lol. - END of Track 4 -
Track 5 : 胸が...痛いよ... [My Chest Hurts]
Nagisa and Tamao were having lunch, Tamao noticed Nagisa's appetite wasn't that of usual. Nagisa replied that she's not feeling well, Tamao suggested to her to take the day off but Nagisa said it's okay. Tamao told Nagisa to take care then. [Thanks to Anonymous who provided me the info =)] The sky's dark and it might rain any moment, so they went by the pool, Nagisa was reminded of the rumour Tamao told her about Shizuma swimming naked in the pool and scolded herself for thinking about it. It started to rain and they ran to take shelter from rain, along the way Nagisa saw Shizuma with a junior. Shizuma told the junior not to cry and offered to give her a kiss. The junior cried again, calling Onee-sama. Nagisa saw the kissing scene and ran off leaving Tamao.
Shizuma noticed Nagisa running. While running, Nagisa can't believe Shizuma kissed the girl. Running back to her room, Nagisa said that her chest hurts ... what am I feeling so painful and sorrow? Flashback to Shizuma saying if Nagisa would be with her, she might like the rain, Nagisa, you're cute. Tamao entered the room and found Nagisa ill in bed. Tamao ran off to get help, along the way met Chiyo and told her to get the sister while she prepared the stuff. - END of Track 5 -
Track 6 : 玉青と静馬 [Tamao And Shizuma]
Tamao took care of Nagisa and heard Nagisa murmuring Shizuma's name. Angry, Tamao told Chiyo to take care of Nagisa while she go off for a while. At the greenhouse, Shizuma thought Tamao was Nagisa and welcomed her. Tamao told Shizuma that Nagisa won't be coming and not to hurt Nagisa anymore. Shizuma commented that Tamao's eyes were scary and added that she's like a knight protecting the princess [Nagisa]. Don't tell me [you like] Nagisa?, Shizuma taunted. Tamao told Shizuma to stop spouting nonsense, slapped Shizuma and excused herself.
Miyuki walked in and both of them talked about something. [I don't understand =P] Miyuki also knew Tamao had slapped Shizuma. Shizuma met Chiyo on the way and Chiyo told Shizuma that Nagisa's ill. In the room, Nagisa wondered to herself why's she feeling so sorrow? Chiyo entered the room only to find Nagisa crying so she took out the handkerchief Nagisa lent her to dry the tears. Chiyo cried and tried to explain why Nagisa's handkerchief was with her. Nagisa replied that she's giving the handkerchief to Chiyo, Chiyo thanked Nagisa and said that she would treat it as her most important/precious thing. Tamao returned and told Nagisa to rest. - END of Track 6 -
Track 7 : 誤解 [Misunderstanding]
Tamao's soothing the sleeping Nagisa and was apparently relieved that Nagisa's fine. [Tamao sounded really motherly here, she really cared for Nagisa a lot.] There was knock on the door, Shizuma came to visit Nagisa. Nagisa awoke and saw Shizuma beside her and thought she was dreaming. Shizuma was holding Nagisa's hand and told her not to get up then eased Nagisa back to bed again. Nagisa asked for Tamao, Shizuma replied that she's out [Probably to get Nagisa's uniform to the laundary room]. Shizuma said that Nagisa saw it is it not? [It refers to the scene where Shizuma kissed the junior in Track 5.] Nagisa nodded, Shizuma told her that Tamao confronted her before, telling her not to hurt Nagisa.
Shizuma asked Nagisa something I don't understand even after listening it to 20 times lol, but Nagisa said yes. Shizuma told Nagisa that yes, that time the junior had confess to her but Shizuma rejected her. So Shizuma had tried to comfort the crying junior by hugging and giving her a goodbye kiss. 'I'm a bad Onee-sama huh ...', Shizuma added. Shizuma told Nagisa to forgive her as that was her way of showing affections. Nagisa tried to reply to Shizuma but Shizuma told Nagisa to get well soon so that they could meet in the greenhouse. Nagisa agreed happily. Shizuma told Nagisa to sleep well as she would be holding her hand. - END of Track 7 -
Track 8 : 玉青の告白 [Tamao's Confession]
Tamao let her heart-felt words out as she described Nagisa's cute look, told her to please get well soon and she would be able to see her favourite liveliness smile of Nagisa. [I don't understand the later but I know Tamao's confessing something.] Tamao added that as long as she could see Nagisa's smile, she would feel this happiness and gentle feeling. So Nagisa-chan, please get well soon, my irreplaceable Nagisa-chan. [ Thanks to Runte for the explaination =)] ???, Nagisa. [<- I don't know what Tamao called Nagisa, I repeated 10 over times but I still understand and couldn't find the meaning.]
Nagisa awoke and found Tamao beside her. Tamao asked how was she feeling and Nagisa said she's better now. Tamao's relieved, Nagisa thanked Tamao for taking care of her. Tamao told Nagisa not to thank her. Nagisa described Tamao's gentle and kind ministrations then something about a kiss, I don't really understand. I think Nagisa gave Tamao a grateful kiss on the cheek. - END of Track 8 -
Track 9 : 白馬の静馬 [White Horse, Shizuma]
Kizuna and Lemon were shocked when they heard that Shizuma swims naked in the pool at night. [LoL] Lemon remarked how bold Shizuma was while Kizuna said she want to see, Lemon said she wanted too, Shizuma's proportions [LOL]. Kizuna asked Chikaru wanted to see too right?, Chikaru said no, [I don't understand what reason she said but I think she said that no one had seen Shizuma swimming naked in the pool at night yet so it might be a rumour?] then Lemon said we have to check it out then! Suddenly, Chikaru said that eh, I wonder where Nagisa's going ... Tamao and Chiyo too. So it's up to the Secret Investigation Club to check it out, let's go! Kizuna and Lemon went 'Yes~!'. - Scene at horse ranch - We automatically thought it would be Amane but this time, Shizuma's galloping on a horse.
Hikari and Yaya were amazed by Shizuma's riding skills, even Amane was too as she said it would be terrible if Shizuma's her rival. Chiyo, Nagisa and Tamao arrived at the scene and they were too amazed by Shizuma. It's the first time they witnessed Shizuma riding. [It was also hinted in the Novel that Shizuma knew how to ride XD] Shizuma stopped in front of the girls, suddenly grabbed Nagisa's hand to mount the horse and rided off. The girls were like, 'Ah?! Nagisa-chan!'. The St Lulim girls arrived just in time to see Nagisa and Shizuma leaving the school on horse. Shizuma told Nagisa she's fulfilling the promise they made to go to the sea. The St Lulim girls chased after those two.
At the sea, Nagisa was astonished by the beauty of the sea and began talking excitingly. Shizuma said that she's happy that Nagisa's happy with it and brought Nagisa to a beautiful place. All the girls finally arrived at the sea lol, they were panting hard and stuff and was excited to probably witness Shizuma swimming naked. Suddenly, there was Kagome's voice and everyone was like, 'Whoa?! When did you arrived?!' [LOL!]. Yaya was like whoa, the sea ... [Then she said something I don't understand, probably something about playing the sea would feel nice] Hikari told Yaya to be careful, suddenly Tsubomi's lecturing voice about them not going to choir practice but coming to the sea. Yaya was like 'Urk, the noisy kid's here.' [LOL] Tsubomi was like, 'Who are you calling noisy?!'.
While Nagisa and Shizuma were enjoying the sea breeze, the other girls were probably hiding somewhere expecting Shizuma to take off her clothes and swim naked lol. Chikaru and Yaya began to talk dirty about swimming naked where the water's great, no one would be around and also Shizuma's naked body [LOL, I'm not that sure what they talking about but it's funny.] Nagisa and Shizuma began picking beautiful seashells [KNM!!!!!]. Yaya was getting restless from waiting Shizuma to strip lol then she added that anyways, it's a nice day and told Hikari to go for a swim too. Hikari protested by saying that they didn't bring swimsuits with them. Yaya replied that it's okay as she wanted to try out swimming naked. Everyone went 'EHHHH?!'.
Yaya added, well Shizuma's swimming naked too, so it's no problem. Nagisa and Shizuma noticed the girls and asked what they were doing. Kizuna, in her panic blurted out that they heard rumours of her swimming naked so they had came to see [LOL!!!]. Nagisa also remembered about it and wondered if it's true. Shizuma sounded confused then she chuckled and said, 'Well, I've been swimming naked ...' Everyone went 'EHHHH?!' Shizuma added, '... not. It's a lie.' [LOL] Everyone let out a sigh of relief lol. Nagisa was relieved too [I wonder why XD]. Shizuma then told Nagisa secretly that they could swim naked when they're alone next time *grin*. Nagisa was like 'E-Etoile-sama!'.
Yaya's still on 'I wanna try swimming naked' and took off her clothes. Nagisa and Tamao were like shocked because Yaya's wearing the undergarments they saw in Track 3. [Purple, orange ... The students were supposed to only wear white coloured underwears.] Tsubomi was like, 'Yaya-senpai, aren't you shy?!' Yaya said something about protecting Hikari's colour of underwear? [Not sure] then Hikari was like, please don't say that! Then Tsubomi and Yaya said something I don't really understand but it ended in a funny way. - END of Track 9 -
Track 10 : 水平線の向こうに [On The Other Side Of The Horizon]
As the girls were playing at the sea, Nagisa and Shizuma were chatting with each other. Nagisa began describing about the orange sea [Probably it's sunset] and how beautiful it was. Nagisa said something about her liking the sea ... then saying about herself sounding like a child isn't it? Shizuma told Nagisa that someday she wants to take Nagisa to the other side of the horizon. Nagisa said something about the other side of the horizon which I don't really quite understand. - END of Track 10 -
Track 11 : キャストコメント [Casts' Comments]
The casts of Strawberry Panic! Original Drama CD [Miator Compilation] - Older Sister and Underwear gave some little comments [Like thank you, please look forward to more or something like this, thank you for supporting.] in the production of Strawberry Panic! ;
- Mai Nakahara as Nagisa Aoi
- Hitomi Nabatame as Shizuma Hanazono [Sexy~~!]
- Ai Shimizu as Tamao Suzumi/Kizuna Hyuuga
- Chiwa Saito as Chiyo Tsukidate
- Junko Noda as Miyuki Rokujou [Whoa her normal voice was even deeper haha]
- Miyu Matsuki as Hikari Konohana
- Yuko Kaida as Amane Ootori
- Natsuko Kuwatani as Yaya Nanto
- Sakura Nogawa as Tsubomi Okuwaka
- Saki Nakajima as Chikaru Minamoto
- Ui Miyazaki as Lemon Natsume [Sexy voice?!]
- Yukari Fukui as Kagome Byakudan
- END of Track 11 -
Track 12 : スピカ編予告（BONUS TRACK） [Spica Compilation Notice]
Hikari and Yaya were talking the up coming physical examination in a week and they were running to prepare themselves for it. Looking at the hardworking Yaya, Hikari tried to catch up but failed as she was tired from the running [Bad in sports]. Then she went, 'I'm beat~~, I think it's enough for today, I'll just try harder tomorrow.' [LoL.] - Scene changed to Hikari in the shower - Suddenly the door opened, Hikari screamed, 'Kyaaa, Yaya-chan?!'. Yaya just went 'Ara, Hikari~, you're inside? Sorry ... but then why don't we shower together?' Hikari tried to protest but Yaya was like 'No~' and so they showered together.
Yaya began tickling Hikari and she was giggling + some misleading sounds lol. Yaya reminded Hikari of the physical examination and said Hikari something I don't understand ... then Yaya told my Hikari should not to feel embarrassed about her body as it's beautiful ... for ... example ... - Yaya touched a place which made Hikari go 'No, n-not that place ...' Then Yaya talked something about Amane [Not sure]. Hikari then said ... you're right ... and something about Amane-senpai and measuring Hikari's bustline. [Not really sure, please clear my doubts XD] Hikari began fantasizing about Amane telling her to show her chest, not to be shy and all [LoL].
Back to present, Hikari was nearly hysterical with worry and was verrrrry determined to diet for the sake of Amane. While Yaya was like, this is my chance heh heh heh, as I would be able to see more of Hikari's body ... hohoho~ Meanwhile, Kaname and Momomi were having fun in the shower too lol, they were scheming something evil to tear Amane and Hikari's relationship during the physical examination. Look forward to it! - END of Track 12 -
*LOL* Track 3 prooved the Ichigo-sha rule about underwears XD
Isn't the phrase "I'm useless, right?" also shows Nagisa's despair to us and Shizuma? I think both Serin's and your phrase match this scene pretty well.
I'm not sure if my translation is good. All I can say is that the question tag is very important. (I don't mean all question tags are always important. Many of them are easily ignorable.) While "Dame nandesu" is a simple admission ("I cannot do it", "I'm useless", etc.), "Dame nandesune" is basically a question that can mean "I'm useless, right?", "You think I cannot do it, don't you?", etc. And the expected answer to this kind of question is usually "yes". Nagisa didn't hear the answer. But she already knew Shizuma couldn't deny. She asked the question to make sure it.
Anyway, I don't want to nitpik. If that part of the funsub translation I referred to works well, I have no reason to continue this topic. Thank you for your answer.
Oh! And I have to add another important thing here. I'm sure Serin's translations are usually ok.
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"There is no spoon"
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~~ Project Cyz ~~
"There is no spoon"
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I think the reason why Shizuma kept imagining Kaori when looking at Nagisa is not because she sees Nagisa as a replacement. I think it is more of a reminder to Shizuma of the love she had and lost, and the potential for new love to form. It's about her letting go of her past more than about finding a replacement.
She sees the potential love in Nagisa and all her memories of her past love comes flashing back at her; therefore, she broke down, cried, and called out Kaori's name in emotional remembrance.
Yuri yuri yuri, as to be expected. Miyuki tells Nagisa everything she knows about Shizuma and Kaori, from when they met to when they became Etoiles together to when Kaori died. Overall, I came out of this episode with a lot of respect for Miyuki. If there were a poll to rate this episode, I'd probably give it an 8 or a 9.
I would've liked the yuri scenes more if the character designs were better when it comes to naked people. I love the old-school style character designs, but the characters looked really weird with those big heads and small, scrawny bodies... Especially Shizuma's large breasts looked rather strange on her thin body. Ah well.
What I found even more weird is that Kaori went to the school at all. If she was so weak and sickly that she hasn't really left her home before, how could she be sent to a boarding school where her parents/caretakers are not around? It didn't make too much sense. I usually don't melodramas like this to make much sense, but this was just too strange. ^^;;
After watching ep.19,it's sad to say I develop a strong disliking towards Kaori.The scene where she drinks from Shizuma's cup,it strongly indicates that she's hitting on Shizuma.Poor Miyuki.I prefer Miyuki rather than Kaori though.
The kissing scene in the forest was WOW!They(scriptwriters/animators) really went to the extreme
I liked the 19th episode for finally lifting the veil on this 'dark and mysterious past' ...
Spoiler:
Though, I found the whole idea of someone spending the last three months of their life in a boarding school away from their family and such more than a bit odd.
About the Drama CD, I read the summary earlier and realized I have to get it. Has anyone done a detailed line-by-line translation of it? I had nothing better to do so I tested the intro portion before Nagisa announces the title...
Spoiler:
Drama CD translation snippet:
Nagisa: Etoile-sama! Which teacup would you like today? The red one with flower patterns, or...
Nagisa: Etoile-sama...?
Nagisa: Oh...
Shizuma: Nagisa...
Nagisa: Jeeze, Etoile-sama, suddenly grabbing me into a hug from behind...
Nagisa: Please let me go, Etoile-sama, the spoon fell...
Shizuma: Stay still. I'd like to just stay like this forever.
Shizuma: It's nothing to be embarrassed over. We're alone in this greenhouse.
Shizuma: You have very soft hair. Such a pleasant fragrance.
Nagisa: Etoile-sama...
Nagisa: The water... The hot water is ready! A-Ano, I'll wash the spoon right now, and-- is this English set fine for the tea? I'll go make the preparations on the far side table!
Shizuma: Oh Nagisa...
I'm not very confident I can pull off a big project like this, so I'd rather not continue this if someone else has already started to work on it.
I cant help it, I don't like Kaori.
I also prefer Miyuki.
Miyuki-Fans unite!
What I felt was the most powerful scene: Nagisa clinging to Miyuki from behind. I guess she's one of these you always feel like running to if you're sad. Comforting without really saying a word, or doing anything.
Even more points to her
Yuri is definitely strong on 19. See that under the tree scene?
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I wonder if the anime would put a situation like Nagisa having a sickness that she's close to dying but she survived?
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"There is no spoon"
~~~~~ Currently Watching:
-- too lazy to put it together --
~~~~~ Current sig:
Takanashi Rikka from
Chuunibyou Demo Koi ga Shitai!
~~~~ Big thanx to Patchy for the sig
2006-08-04, 22:21
Graphic Designer
i need more details on the first one 
