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Old 2006-09-06, 09:03   Link #1261
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Btw Kuro, you really dislike Shizuma that much huh?
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Old 2006-09-06, 09:28   Link #1262
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Btw Kuro, you really dislike Shizuma that much huh?
I don't really hate Shizuma, per se. I just like Tamao-chan much, much more is all.

But besides that, I don't think Shizuma has done anything that great to deserve Nagisa. In everything that happened so far, she needed some form of plot device for her to realize just how important Nagisa is. Kaori dying and her final words were one of them. Miyuki informing Shizuma about Tamao-chan and Nagisa running for Etoile is another. When they were on the roof by the pool, she had to see Tamao-chans ribbon on Nagisas wrist to take any form of actual action, outside of just her usual teases. In all cases, she needed to know something. In all cases, something had to pull her head out of her ass for her to realize what may be her feelings. That's pretty lame to me. Or maybe I'm just not romantic. That could be why my boyfriend left me so long ago. But, whatever. Anyways, Tamao-chan has shown SO much support and just bent over backwards SO many times for Nagisa that it's really frustrating when Nagisa outright ignores her for something that doesn't even have that much grounding in the first place. And I ask the question, what's so great about Shizuma outside of the pictures and her obvious role as the other main girl? To me, none. She's never shown the respect to Nagisa like she deserves, and has done plenty of really stupid things to boot.
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Old 2006-09-06, 09:31   Link #1263
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To all Tamao fans, today would be her turn in the Saimoe tournament.

Remon (part of Chikaru's harlem) also features today.

Both their groups would have really tough opponents. From SHUFFLE!, Mai Otome and Fate Stay/Night respectively.

Me? It's a tough choice, but sadly I won't be picking StoPani characters today. The least I can do is to inform anyone here who might be interested in picking them for today.

This link contains the voting thread link
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This link contains the illustrated instructions
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Old 2006-09-06, 12:45   Link #1264
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Air time in Japan is 26:45~27:15

PS: I myself pressing my brain to figure.... What time is that?!
Monday 26:45 - 27:15 = Tuesday 2:45am - 3:15am
Japanese broadcasting stations uses a bit strange twenty-four-hour system. For example, TV Kanagawa, which is one of the stations that broadcast Strawberry Panic, starts its broadcasting activity at 6:00am and ends at 3:15am. For some techinical reason, they deal with their work time as 06:00 - 27:15. Strictly speaking, Strawberry Panic is aired at 2:45am on Tuesday (Japan Standard Time). But the program list says it starts at 26:15 on Monday.

By the way,
2:45am Tuesday (Japan Standard Time)
= 5:45pm Monday (Greenwich Mean Time)
= 9:45am Monday (Pacific Standard Time)

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Old 2006-09-06, 15:08   Link #1265
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Spoiler for episode 23:
I don't think Shizuma is pretending for her own sake. I think she did not realize how much Nagisa mean to her before she could let go of Kaori. After that, she kind of gave up because of guilt. She thinks that she has caused Miyuki and Nagisa a lot of pain and she should just stay away from them for their sake. In this case, Miyuki is different becasue Shizuma sees Miyuki as a very close friend, not a girlfriend/lover type. Besides, she knows Miyuki alot better than Nagisa. She can express her feelings more straightforward whe it comes to Miyuki. I think Shizuma now needs to understand or decide where Nagisa stands in her heart and what she is going to do about it. If she decides that it is over, it really is over because Nagisa has given up on her.
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Old 2006-09-06, 15:22   Link #1266
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I don't really hate Shizuma, per se. I just like Tamao-chan much, much more is all.

But besides that, I don't think Shizuma has done anything that great to deserve Nagisa.
Neither has Nagisa done anything that deserves Shizuma. Nagisa is not a good support and couldn't help Shizuma in her problem. She always runs away and don't know how to deal with it.

Shizuma had not realized her feelings toward Nagisa before. If she ever decides to act upon it and actually wins Nagisa over, I am sure she will treat Nagisa like she deserves. Just take a look at how she treated Kaori. That is a pretty good indication. I don't think the way she treated Nagisa before is a good demonstration becasue she had not resolved her own problem yet. We all see how Shizuma was before all this Kaori thing happened. she was REALLY different.

I might say something about my thoughts on Tamao later.
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Old 2006-09-06, 16:18   Link #1267
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@ guest alot smart words there, and I like your opinon.

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it really is over because Nagisa has given up on her.
I will never give up on Nagisa and Shziuma, but why says everyone she have given up one her?
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Old 2006-09-06, 16:37   Link #1268
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As far as I know, Shizuma hasn't given up Nagisa. Far from it.
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Old 2006-09-06, 16:47   Link #1269
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As far as I know, Shizuma hasn't given up Nagisa. Far from it.
I do not think that either, but have Nagisa given up on Shizuma?

But what do you guys takes as given up? Im from norway so Im not sure.
At my place, given up is then se thinks or understand/grasp what she cant have her, in this occasion Shizuma. (Hard for me to explain)
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Old 2006-09-06, 16:59   Link #1270
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i don't think shizuma has given up her feelings for nagisa. sure, she said to forget about her but that's because she doesn't want nagisa to be hurt any further. nagisa, on the other hand, doesn't want to.
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Old 2006-09-06, 17:21   Link #1271
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i don't think shizuma has given up her feelings for nagisa. sure, she said to forget about her but that's because she doesn't want nagisa to be hurt any further. nagisa, on the other hand, doesn't want to.
But how do you know what she do not want Shziuma anny more,
I know I do not understand everything inside the aNime world,
but I think I total have watch'd Strawberry Panic like 10 times now.
The releas'd ones. And I have never got anny strong filling about that,
But maybe that is just because I have never got more hope in a couple like Nagisa and Shizuma
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Old 2006-09-06, 17:57   Link #1272
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But how do you know what she do not want Shziuma anny more,
I know I do not understand everything inside the aNime world,
but I think I total have watch'd Strawberry Panic like 10 times now.
The releas'd ones. And I have never got anny strong filling about that,
But maybe that is just because I have never got more hope in a couple like Nagisa and Shizuma
Have you seen episode 23? It was Nagisa who insisted to Tamao-chan to run for Etoile together. And when Tamao-chan wrapped her arms around Nagisa from behind, she responded by gently placing her hand on Tamao-chan's. She seemed pretty complacent as she smiled to herself. It was a nice, sweet and touching scene, but I've seen enough anime that angst between two often overcomes.. which is a sad case for SP, as both Shizuma and Nagisa are main characters and the angst is between them.

Of course, that might not matter, should Tamao-chan seize the opportunity.
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Old 2006-09-06, 18:09   Link #1273
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Have you seen episode 23? It was Nagisa who insisted to Tamao-chan to run for Etoile together. And when Tamao-chan wrapped her arms around Nagisa from behind, she responded by gently placing her hand on Tamao-chan's. She seemed pretty complacent as she smiled to herself. It was a nice, sweet and touching scene, but I've seen enough anime that angst between two often overcomes.. which is a sad case for SP, as both Shizuma and Nagisa are main characters and the angst is between them.

Of course, that might not matter, should Tamao-chan seize the opportunity.

hihi, no, I havn't seen it yet. Thats maybe why I do not know about it, hehe. But I will watch it, I did not even know it was releasd, I was sure the RAW's where releas'd at Thursday, then the Subs releas'd sometime in the later part of the weeken, hehe, but it seams Im totaly wrong. thanks @ Kuro

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Edit: I still cant fine anny torrent, when you say watched Ep. 23, do you mean the RAW?
By the way, thanks for the spoiler, I love then ppl's reduce my hope.
hehe... - joke, ? or maybe not?

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Old 2006-09-06, 19:59   Link #1274
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i guess tamao-chan knew already that she can't compete to shizuma over nagisa's feelings. poor tamao-chan. i guess by joining and hopefully becoming an etoile, she can have nagisa to herself
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Old 2006-09-06, 20:05   Link #1275
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i guess tamao-chan knew already that she can't compete to shizuma over nagisa's feelings. poor tamao-chan. i guess by joining and hopefully becoming an etoile, she can have nagisa to herself

If Nagisa and Shizuma gets together at last, I allmost have to laught, everyone says thats not posible, thats they I beleave in the mysterious.
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Old 2006-09-06, 20:10   Link #1276
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Old 2006-09-06, 22:55   Link #1277
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it's possible if you look at it in different perspectives.
Yep. It's called unoriginality. Most glaring example of why Shizuma will probably end up w/Nagisa. However, to Strawberry Panics credit, Nagisa at least shows some affection to Tamao-chan. Maybe there's hope for it yet.
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Old 2006-09-06, 23:11   Link #1278
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you know has anyone ever considered that Nagisa will throw us a curve ball and confess her love to Chyio. (chance of this happening .00001%)
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Old 2006-09-06, 23:43   Link #1279
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Ohh ho I totally forgot about Chiyo-chan what the writers have install for her then? Anyway I wonder why Kizuna and Chikaru won't get together...they're so cute and Chikaru is my fav after Shizuma.
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Old 2006-09-07, 04:35   Link #1280
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Ohh ho I totally forgot about Chiyo-chan what the writers have install for her then? Anyway I wonder why Kizuna and Chikaru won't get together...they're so cute and Chikaru is my fav after Shizuma.
The reason behind that is that the plot hasn't invested any weight in Chikaru's emotional state. The characters in Lilum are to quote Ouran just homo side characters. Chikaru and Kagome may be cool but the isn't about them.
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