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Old 2010-12-19, 09:51   Link #1921
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Why did Destiny fail??

1) they should never have made Shinn the main character.. damn, they UNDERSTOOD very well that Kira's fanbase is HUUUUUUGE... why did they even DECIDE to write Shinn's character???

2) Shinn was totally unreachable emotionally and as a character.. his lines suck, his way of thinking, and why is he so childish when in fact he is a trained soldier?? meh! Kira had more reason to be emotional back in SEED.. in DESTINY, Kira lost all emotion.. and that sucked big time

3) Kira should have been the main character from the very beginning.. his story and background could have been explored more thoroughly.. including that of Athrun and Lacus' past lives in the PLANTS (damn, we never got to know their mothers that well)

4) Cagalli should not have become whiny in Destiny.. where is the strong girl in her?? it disappeared and instead she was shown to have this kind of obsession over Athrun for dumping her

5) Lacus' use could have been more elaborated. Damnit, she did a lot of stunts back in SEED.. why has she become so dependent on KIRA??

6) Minerva?? really, that ship and it's crew were pathetic as hell.. atleast Rey and Dullindal were likable characters..

7) Damnit, they should have lengthened Yzak and Dearka's screen time.. and what the hell was with that stupid break up between Dearka and Milly??

OVER ALL.. THE STORY WAS WRITTEN POORLY.. NO CHARACTERS ARE TO BE BLAMED..
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Old 2010-12-20, 01:23   Link #1922
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awwww~ Poor you, it must suck to be you


ow and just a fun reminder to everyone:
Destiny didn't fail! In fact it's the 2nd most successful Gundam series to date~ In terms of, popularity, ratings, sailes, revenue, ect Destiny was HUGE in the country where it matters the most... Fun facts, just putting it out there..
Good god, still pulling the money=quality card?
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Old 2010-12-20, 01:36   Link #1923
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Good god, still pulling the money=quality card?
Money probably doesn't reflect on quality, but it's as meaningful as you can get when you're talking about whether or not a TV series has failed. Everything else is largely a matter of taste.
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Old 2010-12-20, 06:12   Link #1924
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Money probably doesn't reflect on quality, but it's as meaningful as you can get when you're talking about whether or not a TV series has failed. Everything else is largely a matter of taste.
Exactly while I will admit that Gundam Seed Destiny shouldn't be considered a good anime, I also wouldn't call it the worst Gundam series since it actually was able to put forth ideas that actually made sense, and Durandal was a great villain.
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Old 2010-12-20, 09:51   Link #1925
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Why did Destiny fail??

1) they should never have made Shinn the main character.. damn, they UNDERSTOOD very well that Kira's fanbase is HUUUUUUGE... why did they even DECIDE to write Shinn's character???

2) Shinn was totally unreachable emotionally and as a character.. his lines suck, his way of thinking, and why is he so childish when in fact he is a trained soldier?? meh! Kira had more reason to be emotional back in SEED.. in DESTINY, Kira lost all emotion.. and that sucked big time

3) Kira should have been the main character from the very beginning.. his story and background could have been explored more thoroughly.. including that of Athrun and Lacus' past lives in the PLANTS (damn, we never got to know their mothers that well)

4) Cagalli should not have become whiny in Destiny.. where is the strong girl in her?? it disappeared and instead she was shown to have this kind of obsession over Athrun for dumping her

5) Lacus' use could have been more elaborated. Damnit, she did a lot of stunts back in SEED.. why has she become so dependent on KIRA??

6) Minerva?? really, that ship and it's crew were pathetic as hell.. atleast Rey and Dullindal were likable characters..

7) Damnit, they should have lengthened Yzak and Dearka's screen time.. and what the hell was with that stupid break up between Dearka and Milly??

OVER ALL.. THE STORY WAS WRITTEN POORLY.. NO CHARACTERS ARE TO BE BLAMED..
1. Might as well continue Seed instead.

2. Think in Shinn's place.

3. How would they contribute to the story?

4. She lost her father, her boyfriend. Imagine that occurring to you.

5. Because people like you prop up Kira. Then Lacus had no choice but to suck up to him too.

6. Are you likeable enough to comment that fictional characters aren't likeable?

7. They are Seed's people. This is GSD. Because love is cruel, unimaginable and unexpected.
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Old 2010-12-20, 13:50   Link #1926
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Other than the fact that she's the most popular female character in SEED (and barring the crazy rumors), I'm wondering if Morosawa is very overprotective of Lacus? As one poster and myself mentioned, Morosawa said in an interview that Athrun and Lacus were her favorite characters.
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Old 2010-12-20, 21:48   Link #1927
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awwww~ Poor you, it must suck to be you


ow and just a fun reminder to everyone:
Destiny didn't fail! In fact it's the 2nd most successful Gundam series to date~ In terms of, popularity, ratings, sailes, revenue, ect Destiny was HUGE in the country where it matters the most... Fun facts, just putting it out there..
The exact same thing can be said about the Twilight series.

But is that any good?

Point proven.
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Old 2010-12-20, 23:04   Link #1928
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The exact same thing can be said about the Twilight series.

But is that any good?

Point proven.
I don't read Twilight, (but my best friend's sister does) but I don't see what's the hype since most girls I asked can't seem to answer my question other than the fact that it's the best novel series they've read.
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Old 2010-12-20, 23:46   Link #1929
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The exact same thing can be said about the Twilight series.
*Kira = Edward
*Lacus (AKA Chiaki Morosawa) = Bella (AKA Stephenie Meyer)
*Athrun = Jacob

Who would Cagalli and Shinn be?
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Old 2010-12-21, 01:03   Link #1930
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The exact same thing can be said about the Twilight series.

But is that any good?

Point proven.
Exactly what point have you proven other than the fact that you don't think the Twilight series is any good?
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Old 2010-12-21, 01:36   Link #1931
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Exactly what point have you proven other than the fact that you don't think the Twilight series is any good?
That even if something makes a bunch of money, it doesn't mean it's any good.
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Old 2010-12-21, 01:59   Link #1932
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That even if something makes a bunch of money, it doesn't mean it's any good.
Obviously some people disagree, that's why it makes a bunch of money in the first place.

This is why I said earlier that this is all largely based on taste. If there are people who would pay money to buy a particular painting, is that painting still a failure just because there are other people who don't like it? Taste may differ for different people, but the fact that a painting could sell for a lot of money is undeniable.
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Old 2010-12-21, 06:09   Link #1933
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what compare GS series to that twilight?!

really never compare those 2 (really after seeing 1st twilight never watch it or it squael too YAWN to watch).

besides really there is really no fail on GS era really it older generation have too complain on the GS.
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Old 2010-12-21, 08:41   Link #1934
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Although I agree that Twilight is not good FOR ME. It does quite well in terms of money and fame thus for those who spent money on it is THAT GOOD.

Same goes to GSD I guess.
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Old 2010-12-21, 17:45   Link #1935
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If SEED is the Twilight of the Gundam series, then:
  • Gundam = Bram Stoker's Dracula
  • Wing = Interview With the Vampire
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Old 2010-12-21, 18:57   Link #1936
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Good god, still pulling the money=quality card?
I see that you have completely missed my point.. And when did I say anything about quality? You are making such a ridiculous assumption. Read my previous posts, I already shared my opinion about the Destiny's quality.

I just wanted to make some facts clear. Many people here seem to have been misinformed about where Destiny actually stands by a few who like to sell pure personal preference as facts.. Take the person who started this thread as an example. he makes it very clear that Destiny is a faild show (based on nothing) and wants to talk about why it failed.. What kind of bulls*it is that?

I personally think that Destiny is pretty bad.. But I won't go around and say it "failed" as if it's a fact, because it isn't. And besides you would look kind of silly waving that "Destiny failed!!!11" banner when it's number 1 in this and number 1 in that..
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Old 2010-12-21, 20:24   Link #1937
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The question is how do we define failure? since failure is mostly a subjective term based on one's perspective.
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Old 2010-12-22, 00:19   Link #1938
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The question is how do we define failure? since failure is mostly a subjective term based on one's perspective.

someone view on failure is someones Else's view on success..

i personally think gsd failed but that is my opinion. The music is great the VA's are good.. but yeah.. after the first arc (about 6 to 8 episodes in) thats where my dislike of the show started.

Unfortuntely the story was really bland for me and not very interesting, way too many inconsistencies with the plot. Meh it did make alot of money thats for sure.. but quality is what i question. Shows maybe popular but doesnt mean its quality.
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Old 2010-12-22, 00:32   Link #1939
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The question is how do we define failure? since failure is mostly a subjective term based on one's perspective.
But question is.. who cares how you define failure?

Personal opinions that deviate from the society don't matter.
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Old 2010-12-22, 21:30   Link #1940
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But question is.. who cares how you define failure?

Personal opinions that deviate from the society don't matter.
And your opinion makes up society how??

And if we going it with that, that also says if the market is doing well, then it would be considered a success.
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