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Old 2009-09-03, 04:40   Link #2301
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Does anyone know is K&B chant written in romaji?

Divine skills, flawless and firm
Our strength rips the mountains
Our swords split the water
Our names reach the imperial villa
The two of us cannot hold heavens together
—Two rivals, walking their own life.
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Old 2009-09-03, 04:54   Link #2302
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It's more like the Overedge chant... Anyways it's written down on the swords itselves.
But sorry, I don't know. Maybe TypeMOON wiki has it.
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Old 2009-09-03, 08:33   Link #2303
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Pity, but it doesn't.
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Old 2009-09-04, 00:28   Link #2304
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The chant goes like this

Our souls, hard yet firm
Our power, tearing the mountains
Our swords, splitting the water
Our names, reaching the villa
Only one among us can stand under heaven.
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Old 2009-09-04, 07:36   Link #2305
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No, need it in romaji not english.
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Old 2009-09-09, 21:56   Link #2306
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Does anyone know is K&B chant written in romaji?

Divine skills, flawless and firm
Our strength rips the mountains
Our swords split the water
Our names reach the imperial villa
The two of us cannot hold heavens together
—Two rivals, walking their own life.

Shingi muketsu ni shite banjaku
chikara yama wo nuki
tsurugi mizu wo wakatsu
seimei rikyuu ni todoki
warera tomo ni ten wo idakazu


please teach me the meaning of K&B!

and I doubt English sub 'divine skills' is mistake.
if shingi is written as 神技 in kanji, shingi means devine skill.
and if shingi is 心技, it means 'heart and skill'. I think this is correct.
But original text is written in hiragana, then we japanese also can not confirm it.

This chant is clearly written in old Chinese poet style.
So word 'devine' makes me unconfortable, because God who give diviness should not be told in ancient Chinese because of Confucianism.
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Old 2009-09-10, 01:43   Link #2307
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please teach me the meaning of K&B!
K&B is Kanshou and Bakuya.
And thanks a lot for the translation, I owe you
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Old 2009-09-10, 06:55   Link #2308
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So word 'devine' makes me unconfortable, because God who give diviness should not be told in ancient Chinese because of Confucianism.
They mean divine as in spiritual.
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Old 2009-09-10, 09:41   Link #2309
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K&B is Kanshou and Bakuya.
I see! Kanshou & Bakuya!

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They mean divine as in spiritual.
It's interersting.
I thought divine has strong relationship to monotheism and
something divine is western, something spiritual is oriental... oh this is bias!
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Old 2009-09-11, 19:47   Link #2310
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Shingi muketsu ni shite banjaku
chikara yama wo nuki
tsurugi mizu wo wakatsu
seimei rikyuu ni todoki
warera tomo ni ten wo idakazu


please teach me the meaning of K&B!

and I doubt English sub 'divine skills' is mistake.
if shingi is written as 神技 in kanji, shingi means devine skill.
and if shingi is 心技, it means 'heart and skill'. I think this is correct.
But original text is written in hiragana, then we japanese also can not confirm it.

This chant is clearly written in old Chinese poet style.
So word 'devine' makes me unconfortable, because God who give diviness should not be told in ancient Chinese because of Confucianism.
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Old 2009-09-12, 13:08   Link #2311
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K&B chant

I wanted to know about more precisely after writing here, and search some information.

what you call K&B chant is chanted originally at heavens feel route of computer game 'Fate/Stay Night', and in the animation 'F/SN' ep.14.
I don't know which you mentioned, but I'll talk about original one. The one chanted in animetion is imcomplete and what archer did with chanting is different.

The name of the art with this chant is Kakuyoku-sanren(鶴翼三連 in kanji), which means three sets of K&B's cross attack.
creating three sets of K&B, and striking three cross attacks to enemy all together. this is the Kakuyoku-sanren. enhancing K&B (in animetion) is not essential.

And this chant is written in old Chinese poetry style '5-character poetry'.
Kanshou and Bakuya are old Chinese swords, so the chant matches them.

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Divine skills, flawless and firm
Our strength rips the mountains
Our swords split the water
Our names reach the imperial villa
The two of us cannot hold heavens together
—Two rivals, walking their own life.
This is translation of Japanese chant, but Japanese chant is also translation of Chinese one.
In Chinese enchant, what our strength rips is Mount Tai which is one of the Five Sacred Mountain and UNESCO world heritage. What Our swords split is Yellow River which is second-longest river in China.

Chinese chant, unfortunately, does not make sense. Uhh Type-moon stuff's language skill is very poor.
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Old 2009-09-19, 19:22   Link #2312
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Okay, I know wikipedia isn't the greatest source. But I was at the fate/stay night section, and I was looking at the bottom under the type moon works section when under the type moon section I saw that there was a fate/stay night thing called fate/school life. Anybody have any idea what this is?
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Old 2009-09-19, 19:31   Link #2313
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This one?

http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=20376
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Old 2009-09-19, 19:33   Link #2314
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I suppose? What exactly is it? I've never heard of it before.
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Old 2009-09-19, 19:35   Link #2315
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Manga (spin off) I guess.
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Old 2009-09-19, 20:21   Link #2316
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Out of curiosity, do the tiger Colosseum games have an actual plot? Are they canon?
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Old 2009-09-20, 20:35   Link #2317
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Okay, I know wikipedia isn't the greatest source. But I was at the fate/stay night section, and I was looking at the bottom under the type moon works section when under the type moon section I saw that there was a fate/stay night thing called fate/school life. Anybody have any idea what this is?
I translate the article in Japanese Wikipedia.

Fate/school life is 4-frame manga drawed by Eiichiro Mashin for the monthly magazine 'Manga 4koma Kings paretto '.
Backgrounds and characters are same with Fate/Stay Night.

This is the spin off of F/SN and the three girls(Kane Himuro, Kaede Makidera, Yukika Saegusa) are the main heroines of this manga. The story is not serious, but comical.
Drawer says this is official manga supervised by Type-Moon, and some 'facts' are revealed first in this manga.
In this manga ordinary life of students is the main, so there is no magic, ancient heros(Saber, Archer, and so on).
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Old 2009-09-20, 20:54   Link #2318
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Thank you. That's kinda interesting
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Old 2009-09-21, 20:48   Link #2319
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Sorry if this has already been asked, but what does the name Fate/Stay Night mean or refer to?
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Old 2009-09-27, 13:43   Link #2320
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Does Kanshou or Bakuya mean anything in Japanese?
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