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Old 2006-03-13, 15:36   Link #261
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Kaioshin_Sama,

Lots of people like typical. Though I would hardly call F/SN a typical HentaiGame->Anime, it does have some symptoms of the genre.

Mecha, Action and Slice Of Life stories are often just as typical. Almost all of anime and fiction in general follows one pattern or another because those patterns appeal to us on a subconcious level. It's not something you can escape completely. But what the best series do is go deeper than the formula. Some might call Haibane Renmei a slice of life anime, but it has very little to do with something like Sister Princess. And this is just my personal opinion, but the former is infinately better than the latter.

I think F/SN has that deeper element to it. But again this is all my opinion.
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Old 2006-03-13, 15:58   Link #262
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Okay here goes. What makes anime based off Hentai games so popular and inevitable hits. I've seen a bit of Shuffle and some Kimi Ga Nozomu Eien, Green Green among others and from what I can tell they often feature a cookie cutter plot of a male who is surrounded by women who are desperate to take care of him and constantly fawn over him. Stock Characters abound and confused sexual inneundo's and light hearted comedic moments ensue for much of the series while each character gets an arc. Then fans speculate over who he will choose and who is the least annoying as it gears up to an ending which always seems to be some tragic event that injures a major character. I am just trying to understand why this genre is growing so rapidly and enjoys such popularity over other genres such as Mecha, Action and Slice Of Life stories, and why they can't do something with it other than the plot I have previously mentioned. Some have their charm but the genre of Hentai-To Anime can only go so far in my opinion. Sound off on this if you'd like. I wanted to create a new topic for this but for some reason I'm restricted for doing so in this forum.
Most of the problems you have with Hentai game anime dont apply to Fate/stay night, which feature an epic story with deep characters. Maybe you should try making a thread in General Anime discussion for this instead of in Fate/stay night
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Old 2006-03-15, 19:12   Link #263
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Old 2006-03-15, 19:29   Link #264
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Old 2006-03-15, 19:31   Link #265
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Thanks for the reply.
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Old 2006-03-15, 20:10   Link #266
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Shinji did become a good person in the end of UBW, AFAIK.
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Old 2006-03-15, 20:21   Link #267
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I don't get why you guys hate Shinji so much, he's just a poor guy who got stuck playing the "low-life loser character" in the story. The poor guy even got trauma from it, and hanged around the edge of the dock all day rolled up in a ball throughout hollow ataraxia. And he's really a lonely person inside who competes with Issei all the time for Shirou's attention.

And after Sakura "reclaimed control" in HF, life in hollow ataraxia has been hell at the Matou house for poor Shinji and grandpa Zouken under the her iron fist rulings as well. Shirou and Shinji's (one-way) adventure into Sakura's room in search for her diary proved just how horrifying things are for our favorite loser.

Shinji and Shirou makes such a good comedic pair it would be a total waste to off him.
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Old 2006-03-15, 20:21   Link #268
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Still doesn't make me want to stab him repeatedly any less.
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Old 2006-03-15, 20:54   Link #269
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There's just always gotta be a character to hate.. its a shame to, i rather like Shinji as a character.. thought sometimes people go to far with what he can do in Doujins. ^^;
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Old 2006-03-15, 23:52   Link #270
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In the game, when one scenario plays out, do we assume that parts of the history from different scenarios never happened? Sort of like "They never mentioned it, so it never happened" kind of thing?

... like no worm, no abuse, no backstory, things pivotal to one scenario that took place before the story never happened etc etc?

Or does everything fit into place?
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Old 2006-03-16, 04:17   Link #271
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they all fit into place. everything that happened in the past in one route, happens in the past in another route.
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Old 2006-03-16, 19:56   Link #272
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I have a question, in the promo, Archer says "I am the bone of my sword" and I've seen people make reference to this line.

What the heck does it mean? Is it some japanese saying or is it some spoiling thing? I don't think he's said it in the anime yet...
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Old 2006-03-16, 20:52   Link #273
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I have a question, in the promo, Archer says "I am the bone of my sword" and I've seen people make reference to this line.

What the heck does it mean? Is it some japanese saying or is it some spoiling thing? I don't think he's said it in the anime yet...
There's a lot more that goes after that line , if you wanna hear just let me know - but its a spoiler for who he is, and his technique.
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Old 2006-03-18, 01:58   Link #274
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I have a question, in the promo, Archer says "I am the bone of my sword" and I've seen people make reference to this line.

What the heck does it mean? Is it some japanese saying or is it some spoiling thing? I don't think he's said it in the anime yet...

Click-eth of your own free will...Spoilers ahead!! extra precautions ^^ Enjoy.
Spoiler for For Game spoilers, and so on and so forth:


Meh...I've never played the HF storyline in F/sn...I'm curious to find out what happens now...
But I did enjoy the killing of Shinji...FATE = <3, ftw wh00t. ^^;
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Old 2006-03-18, 02:11   Link #275
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I have a question, in the promo, Archer says "I am the bone of my sword" and I've seen people make reference to this line.

What the heck does it mean? Is it some japanese saying or is it some spoiling thing? I don't think he's said it in the anime yet...
It's the first line of his activation keyword for his Noble Phantasm. Typical Engrish, but it's gotten pretty famous since everyone's making parodies of it.

The japanese that went along with that line was 体は剣でできている (karada ha ken de dekiteiru), which means "My body is made of swords" → Engrish "I am the bone of my sword". Parodies involve swapping the noun "sword" in the sentence for something else (For example, one of Neco Arc's victory lines in Melty Blood was: 体はネコでできている (I am the bone of my cat?)).
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Old 2006-03-18, 22:46   Link #276
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Old 2006-03-20, 12:11   Link #277
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Old 2006-03-20, 14:03   Link #278
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It's the first line of his activation keyword for his Noble Phantasm. Typical Engrish, but it's gotten pretty famous since everyone's making parodies of it.

The japanese that went along with that line was 体は剣でできている (karada ha ken de dekiteiru), which means "My body is made of swords" → Engrish "I am the bone of my sword". Parodies involve swapping the noun "sword" in the sentence for something else (For example, one of Neco Arc's victory lines in Melty Blood was: 体はネコでできている (I am the bone of my cat?)).
Actually, you'll be surprised to know that TYPE-MOON actually consulted an English translator for that quote (my sources regarding this is confidential, so I can't go further). The advisor went with the "I am the bone of my sword" because it resonates a deeper meaning than "my bone is made of swords."
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Old 2006-03-20, 14:40   Link #279
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Actually, you'll be surprised to know that TYPE-MOON actually consulted an English translator for that quote (my sources regarding this is confidential, so I can't go further). The advisor went with the "I am the bone of my sword" because it resonates a deeper meaning than "my bone is made of swords."
The English in the rest of it was relatively normal, so the Engrish in this one stood out, that's all.
Doesn't change the fact that's it's awfully confusing though ^^;
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Old 2006-03-20, 15:27   Link #280
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that magical box is very powerful, one wonders if Rin ever tempted to do more than what she did in the game story.

I would be sorely tempted to abuse the box.
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