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Old 2011-11-25, 20:01   Link #3241
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Actually, signs of Gil still caring about Saber work for me too. :P
Thanks you guys!
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Old 2011-11-27, 10:41   Link #3242
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I got another question about the origin bullets. Does it have to be his bones? So I'm assuming bones manifest your origin the most? It can't be hair or blood?

Also does it mean that maybe 2 separate beings incarnated into one in Kiritsugu's case? Since he's got 2 origins.
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Old 2011-11-27, 14:53   Link #3243
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I think bones were used because they were the easiest material to turn into a bullet that wouldn't decay over time. Theoretically any part of his body should be able to realize the origin, but when putting it into a bullet, it has to be something that wont decay over a long period of time and something that wont burn up once the bullet is fired.

As far as being two seperate beings, I think what is more likely to have happened is that he really has one origin that consists of both Severing AND Binding, so while it is dual-natured, it is really a single core concept. Granted, thats just speculation on my part.
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Old 2011-11-27, 16:56   Link #3244
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I got another question about the origin bullets. Does it have to be his bones? So I'm assuming bones manifest your origin the most? It can't be hair or blood?

Also does it mean that maybe 2 separate beings incarnated into one in Kiritsugu's case? Since he's got 2 origins.
He has one origin, it just consists of two things which are part of a whole. Rin's origin consists of five things, after all (the five elements)
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Old 2011-11-27, 17:36   Link #3245
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^ Thats not her Origin, just her Elemental Affinity.
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Old 2011-11-27, 17:45   Link #3246
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As for the other servants, it’s not that clear what they truly wanted from the grail, but considering that most of them died horribly in regrets, it’s not a stretch to assume that they wanted to fix or redo something that is wrong in their previous lifes. Some fine examples would be Night's Rider, Berserker, and Zero Berserker
Fate/Stay Night's Rider just wanted to protect Sakura, actually.
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Old 2011-12-03, 16:05   Link #3247
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Spoiler for Zero Lancer's geis:

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Old 2011-12-05, 23:49   Link #3248
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Question about the Command Seals. Do you lose your servant if you use all three of your seals, or is it just coincidence?
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Old 2011-12-06, 00:00   Link #3249
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Question about the Command Seals. Do you lose your servant if you use all three of your seals, or is it just coincidence?
As long as I can remember, if you use all of your Command Seals, then the master's 'contract' with the servant is ended. You may find more details about it from Type-moon Wikia. If there are some other posters who want to add the details about this, you're welcomed.
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Old 2011-12-06, 15:50   Link #3250
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I have a q about saber and kirei, how come saber didn't recogonize kirei in f/sn?
she didn't met him but rin mentioned his name in ubw movie. did she simply forget or did she not care cus she thought he wasn't a master anymore?
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Old 2011-12-06, 16:19   Link #3251
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Saber actually did go out of her way to avoid meeting Kirei in F/SN if you remember the beginning, before it splits off into the three different arcs. When Rin takes Shirou to the church, Saber specifically says she doesn't like the place, and decides to wait outside. I think she also mentioned she had doubts about Kotomine, but I doubt she thought to take much more precautions then that since its pretty unlikely to be selected as a master two wars in a row (and to be fair, he wasn't lol)
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Old 2011-12-06, 16:32   Link #3252
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meh, she rly should've been more catious
i guess she didn't know kirei very much in f/z then.

but wasn't kirei selected as master of lancer in the fifth war?
he even had commando seals.
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Old 2011-12-06, 16:58   Link #3253
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meh, she rly should've been more catious
i guess she didn't know kirei very much in f/z then.

but wasn't kirei selected as master of lancer in the fifth war?
he even had commando seals.
Kirei took out Lancer's original master and took over as Lancer's master. You need to check out Fate/Hollow Ataraxia to find out more.
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Old 2011-12-06, 17:17   Link #3254
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I have a q about saber and kirei, how come saber didn't recogonize kirei in f/sn?
she didn't met him but rin mentioned his name in ubw movie. did she simply forget or did she not care cus she thought he wasn't a master anymore?
I'm assuming you've only watched the anime versions of F/SN then, because Saber totally remembers Kotomine in the Visual Novel and the two do meet when the latter goes to pay Shirou a visit at the Emiya Household. It's actually a pretty amusing scene as well as an awesome Kotomine moment, who tells Shirou he's reluctant to step into the house out of concern for Saber's hostility towards him. She then rants about Kotomine's evil deeds in the previous Holy Grail War, to which he responds something akin to "Calm down please. I know for you it feels like it's only been a few days, but please try and remember that 10 years have passed since for the rest of us." Classic Kotomine.
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Old 2011-12-07, 02:04   Link #3255
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lol, i see.
and like u said i have only seen the anime versions of f/sn and read the light novel of f/z
will definitely check the visual novel and fate/hollow
Thx
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Old 2011-12-07, 07:17   Link #3256
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lol, i see.
and like u said i have only seen the anime versions of f/sn and read the light novel of f/z
will definitely check the visual novel and fate/hollow
Thx
Fate/Hollow Ataraxia is only partially translated right now. We still have to wait sometime before we can read it in its entirty


Here are my questions again:

- Why did Diarmuid accept Gráinne's geis?
- Did he fell in love with Gráinne (on first sight)?
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Old 2011-12-07, 15:36   Link #3257
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As long as I can remember, if you use all of your Command Seals, then the master's 'contract' with the servant is ended. You may find more details about it from Type-moon Wikia. If there are some other posters who want to add the details about this, you're welcomed.
No, if you lose your command spells, the contract with the servant still remains, you just have no control over them.

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I'm assuming you've only watched the anime versions of F/SN then, because Saber totally remembers Kotomine in the Visual Novel and the two do meet when the latter goes to pay Shirou a visit at the Emiya Household. It's actually a pretty amusing scene as well as an awesome Kotomine moment, who tells Shirou he's reluctant to step into the house out of concern for Saber's hostility towards him. She then rants about Kotomine's evil deeds in the previous Holy Grail War, to which he responds something akin to "Calm down please. I know for you it feels like it's only been a few days, but please try and remember that 10 years have passed since for the rest of us." Classic Kotomine.
Eh, what? I don't remember this....

Where did it happen? And in which route?
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Old 2011-12-07, 15:50   Link #3258
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Where did it happen? And in which route?
This was Bad End 12 of the Fate Route - Day 15
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Old 2011-12-07, 16:37   Link #3259
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This was Bad End 12 of the Fate Route - Day 15
There are so many extra little tidbits in the bad ends. Usually you want to avoid game overs, haha.
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Old 2011-12-09, 03:50   Link #3260
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Why doesn't Matou Zouken fight in the Grail War himself? He'd have a significant advantage over the other magi due to his experience as well as his magic abilities.
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