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Old 2012-07-09, 17:30   Link #3821
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Lol, I see.

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Old 2012-07-09, 17:31   Link #3822
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Old 2012-07-09, 17:34   Link #3823
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Look up Chapter 59.

It's kind of ass-pull, but they did recreate the scene from the game.
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Old 2012-07-10, 17:13   Link #3824
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I really liked the Rider v Saber fight in the manga. I liked how it expanded on it and gave Sakura and Rider a bigger role.
The fight was pretty much the same(except for how it ended), and they didn't really expand on Sakura at all, they completely changed her backstory, given she

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Old 2012-07-10, 17:17   Link #3825
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The fight was pretty much the same(except for how it ended), and they didn't really expand on Sakura at all, they completely changed her backstory, given she

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Old 2012-07-10, 18:18   Link #3826
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Old 2012-07-10, 18:21   Link #3827
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Well, it definitely seems to change some details, but it's still the Fate route so it makes sense that they wouldn't delve super deep into it. But at least you get some picture of what it's like instead of it all being a mystery. Also, I thought the whole "raised as the heir" thing meant that she was just the one who the Matou bloodline would depend on, not that she would be a full fledged magus -- which is true in the VN too. The "training" she gets could just be worms.
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Old 2012-07-10, 18:39   Link #3828
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Also, I thought the whole "raised as the heir" thing meant that she was just the one who the Matou bloodline would depend on, not that she would be a full fledged magus -- which is true in the VN too.
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Old 2012-07-11, 00:11   Link #3829
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What I meant was, "the ways of magic" that she's being taught, couldn't that just be the usual worm business? I mean, isn't that how they pass on their magic. Plus, it's not like Zouken ever tells them his true objectives, so just saying "you're the heir, enjoy your painful training" wouldn't be out of the ordinary.

As for me, I liked it, because, well, if I wanted the normal story I already have the VN. The whole point of an alternate story is to explore some different possibilities.
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Old 2012-07-11, 07:05   Link #3830
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It's a little mix of everything, but looks like the Fate route.
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I know it's the easiest to make into the story, but is the Fate route more popular in Japan? I know at least among English readers, everyone seems to think "either UBW or HF is the best, and Fate's alright, but not nearly as good."
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Old 2012-07-11, 10:30   Link #3831
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Sigh.

I know it's the easiest to make into the story, but is the Fate route more popular in Japan? I know at least among English readers, everyone seems to think "either UBW or HF is the best, and Fate's alright, but not nearly as good."
I highly doubt it. I guess the mangaka just felt like adapting it. The manga is pretty bad anyways so at least he's butchering the Fate route.
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Old 2012-07-11, 13:51   Link #3832
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Sigh.

I know it's the easiest to make into the story, but is the Fate route more popular in Japan? I know at least among English readers, everyone seems to think "either UBW or HF is the best, and Fate's alright, but not nearly as good."
Saber is far and away the most popular heroine in Japan, so it wouldn't surprise me if the fanbase automatically preferred Fate over the other two routes because of her.
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Old 2012-07-11, 14:29   Link #3833
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Saber is far and away the most popular heroine in Japan, so it wouldn't surprise me if the fanbase automatically preferred Fate over the other two routes because of her.
Saber is the most popular FSN heroine period. But even then majority still prefer UBW over Fate.

And I doubt she's even that much more popular than Rin in Japan. I'd say the difference in popularity between her and the other heroines is much more outside of Japan.

HF is neutral. It has a lot of haters but at the same time a lot of people like it(it is clearly the best route though).
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Old 2012-07-11, 14:34   Link #3834
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I prefer Fate over UBW, but UBW is good.
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Old 2012-07-12, 10:27   Link #3835
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What I meant was, "the ways of magic" that she's being taught, couldn't that just be the usual worm business? I mean, isn't that how they pass on their magic. Plus, it's not like Zouken ever tells them his true objectives, so just saying "you're the heir, enjoy your painful training" wouldn't be out of the ordinary.

As for me, I liked it, because, well, if I wanted the normal story I already have the VN. The whole point of an alternate story is to explore some different possibilities.
It could be that way and could not, originally, Shinji found out about it in the basement, and nothing about that training was shown, so it stands to say it is more likely the author altered the backstory, especially given Rin's lack of apprehension about Sakura (and vice-versa) that was all over the original story. What this ends up being is a mess. You know the saying, "too many cooks spoil the broth"? That comes into play here for me. It felt completely different at multiple points rather than an alternative view is what I've been saying.

And yes, it's good to look at alternative possibilities, but this was honestly kinda of just shoving some parts in and force-altering character backstories to fit a purpose (making Shinji seem more personable)more than anything.
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Old 2012-07-13, 05:47   Link #3836
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what is the name of the song played in the Gil vs Shirou fight of UBW anime?
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Old 2012-07-13, 06:09   Link #3837
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Old 2012-07-14, 06:12   Link #3838
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Something occured to me. Archer can't copy Ea... but that's the servant version of him. What if it was the original counter guardian EMIYA? does the current material support or deny the plausibility? or is it still up in the air whether he can copy it or not?
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Old 2012-07-14, 06:51   Link #3839
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Something occured to me. Archer can't copy Ea... but that's the servant version of him. What if it was the original counter guardian EMIYA? does the current material support or deny the plausibility? or is it still up in the air whether he can copy it or not?
no version of shirou can copy Ea

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Old 2012-07-15, 02:21   Link #3840
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Look up Chapter 59.

It's kind of ass-pull, but they did recreate the scene from the game.
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