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Old 2012-07-17, 01:53   Link #3841
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no version of shirou can copy Ea
However if he created Excalibur, he would, and die
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Old 2012-07-20, 21:59   Link #3842
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However if he created Excalibur, he would, and die
Didn't Nasu retcon this? He said he could create a weapon similar, but it wasn't Excalibur and probably wouldn't have the prana to use it if he didn't blow himself up.
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Old 2012-07-21, 00:45   Link #3843
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I thought Nasu said Shirou could make Excalibur but couldn't actually use its ability.
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Old 2012-07-22, 15:45   Link #3844
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Didn't Nasu retcon this? He said he could create a weapon similar, but it wasn't Excalibur and probably wouldn't have the prana to use it if he didn't blow himself up.
It's not retcon if the original never showed he could do it.

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I thought Nasu said Shirou could make Excalibur but couldn't actually use its ability.
Nope, he can't make it, period.
Excalibur and Ea are beyond the scope of Unlimited Blade Works.
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Old 2012-07-22, 16:24   Link #3845
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It's not retcon if the original never showed he could do it.


Nope, he can't make it, period.
Excalibur and Ea are beyond the scope of Unlimited Blade Works.
If I recall, Archer at least threatened to make a version of Excalibur, which he admitted would be weaker, but he'd still do it and just blow everyone in the area to Kingdom Come if Saber tried to unleash her Excaliblast. That's not to say whether he could or not, but he at least threatened to do so, which is why people think it's possible.
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Old 2012-07-22, 16:30   Link #3846
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What about when HF Shirou projected it?
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Old 2012-07-22, 17:57   Link #3847
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What about when HF Shirou projected it?
What you saw was the fuzzy mental image of what he was going for.

You never saw what actually came out in Heaven's Feel Normal end.

The interview with Nasu suggested it was probably "some other degraded sword resembling Excalibur".
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Old 2012-07-24, 16:27   Link #3848
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The interview with Nasu suggested it was probably "some other degraded sword resembling Excalibur".
Except that UBW does not work that way.

It's a bullshit retcon that doesn't make sense. Shirou can trace Excalibur, albeit not very well. HF demonstrates it quite conclusively.
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Old 2012-07-25, 02:03   Link #3849
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It may trace a replica without any of the special faeries components he can't decipher. Also the whole ideals/lights of humanity.

Just a powerful beam sword that kills him.
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Old 2012-07-25, 21:53   Link #3850
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Just a powerful beam sword that kills him.
All he needs to do is trace a G*nd*m and he'd be set.
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Old 2012-07-31, 16:41   Link #3851
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Except that UBW does not work that way.

It's a bullshit retcon that doesn't make sense. Shirou can trace Excalibur, albeit not very well. HF demonstrates it quite conclusively.
Lol, sure, and your bullshit is better.
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Old 2012-08-04, 02:51   Link #3852
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What is a sealing design?
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Old 2012-08-04, 10:23   Link #3853
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What is a sealing design?
Do you mean Sealing Designation?

http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Sealing_Designation
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Old 2012-08-06, 04:36   Link #3854
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Is Waver actually gay? There is way too much gay subtext between him and Rider.

Especially all the blushing whenever Rider compliments him.
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Old 2012-08-06, 04:43   Link #3855
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It's not retcon if the original never showed he could do it.


Nope, he can't make it, period.
Excalibur and Ea are beyond the scope of Unlimited Blade Works.
Why was it in the collection of weapons from the Arm seen when Shirou first woke up after the surgery to attach Archer's arm then?

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Old 2012-08-06, 11:57   Link #3856
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Old 2012-08-06, 12:46   Link #3857
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Is Waver actually gay? There is way too much gay subtext between him and Rider.

Especially all the blushing whenever Rider compliments him.
The light novel never indicates anything like that, so I don't think he is.
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Old 2012-08-06, 14:03   Link #3858
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Waver would blush if anyone complimented him. That's just how desperate he is for acknowledgment.
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Old 2012-08-07, 09:42   Link #3859
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and anybody would blush if alexander the great complimented them. there's no scape for the blushing.
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Old 2012-08-07, 19:30   Link #3860
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Waver seems demisexual (borderline asexual). He would do Alexander the Great (and likely only him), because who wouldn't? Even Kayneth would tap that. If Gilgamesh hadn't been so loyal to Enkidu, he probably would have as well.

His overwhelming charisma is more effective than Diarmuid's mole.
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