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Old 2013-04-23, 06:50   Link #4221
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Rider has C as personal skill...

And Chulain has 5...
I see what you mean. I thought you meant Noble Phantasms, I forgot that there was also a section for Person Skills in their profiles.

But I've never read there was a limit on the amount of Person Skills a servant can have at least.

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Old 2013-04-23, 12:00   Link #4222
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There isn't any limit for Skills or Noble Phantasms. Some Servants have several of them and some have one or two
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Old 2013-04-24, 13:46   Link #4223
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There isn't any limit for Skills or Noble Phantasms. Some Servants have several of them and some have one or two
For NPs, two is the limit.

It seems C Independent Action is the minimum for disobedience.
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Old 2013-04-24, 14:29   Link #4224
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For NPs, two is the limit.
Zero Berserker had three. One could argue Gilgamesh had three. SN Rider had three. If you count Avalon and Caliburn, Saber had four.
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Old 2013-04-24, 16:50   Link #4225
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So four is the absolute limit of NPs one can have?
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Old 2013-04-24, 18:09   Link #4226
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So four is the absolute limit of NPs one can have?
That doesn't mean it is a limit. It is just the maximum number of NPs we have seen a servant have.

There could also be no limit, at least I haven't seen a limit for NPs stayed anywhere.
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Old 2013-04-24, 18:57   Link #4227
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Caliburn is probably just the sword. Excalibur is the name of the anti-fortress light slash...
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Old 2013-04-24, 19:24   Link #4228
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Excalibur is also the name of the sword. It and Caliburn are not the same sword. One is the Sword in the Stone (Caliburn) and the other is the sword given by the Lady of the Lake (Excalibur).
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Old 2013-04-24, 20:44   Link #4229
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Yeah. It's no longer Saber's...
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Old 2013-04-24, 23:46   Link #4230
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Caliburn was lost, Arthur did something bad and he lost that blade so he/she went to the Lady who give him/her Excallibur. Power wise Caliburn was weaker but Saber always like it better.
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Old 2013-04-25, 07:26   Link #4231
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Caliburn was lost, Arthur did something bad and he lost that blade so he/she went to the Lady who give him/her Excallibur. Power wise Caliburn was weaker but Saber always like it better.
It wasn't lost, it was shattered. Arthur's convtictions wavered, and with it so did Caliburn's... I guess "magical essense" or whatever you want to call it.
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Old 2013-04-25, 15:03   Link #4232
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Well I do remember them saying it was lost, but then again that can mean “I don’t remember where I left it” or “We will never see it again”. I also remember it was in a battle Arthur break the rules of cavalry or something like that.
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Old 2013-04-27, 17:18   Link #4233
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Basic attacks: E--- to D++ ( this includes mook spells and basic magic attacks used in dog fights)
'Signature attacks' = C-- to B-- ( Spells which have Nanoha,Fate and Hayate call out the names for. Using cartridges raises the level by one rank,( giving us C to B rank attacks)
Piercing attacks (close combat magic which has a piercing attribute to counter defences, like the wolkenritter use) B-- to B ( raised to A rank when cartridges are used)"
Finishing move ( starlight breaker, ragnarok etc.) = A-- to A+
What would be (your opinions and takes) the take on this? Would it be higher or lower in rank?

And how would the Strike Cannon rank in estimates?
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Old 2013-04-27, 23:35   Link #4234
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My take will be that is way guessing too much. Not that you can’t try to compare but in the end we are talking of different things and when you have two completely different scales of power trying to apply one to the other is hard.

I can agree with this one there, but then again I lack more direct parameters to work with. Like comparing some abilities that aren’t too destructive but still powerful like Lancer’s Gae Bolg being rank B and still just being a spear.
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Old 2013-04-28, 00:22   Link #4235
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Yeah, sadly I can only make estimates based on firepower... and I really forgot to group them (anti-unit, anti-army, anti-fortress).

Divine Buster is probably B-- anti-army (A with cartridges).

And Starlight Breaker is probably A-- anti-fortress.
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Old 2013-04-28, 13:01   Link #4236
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Well the thing with the scale in Fate is that is not just ranking destructive power. For example some abilities aren’t destructive by themselves but are consider A++ or EX. Like Isakandar’s Ionioi Hetairoi, while others like Gilgamesh’s Ea are really something you can’t even get close in destruction power.

And when you consider that in Nanoha magic rank is a scale that isn’t base on raw power, like Fate Stay/Night, is even worse trying to compare. Then we need to address the power ups, the limiters and it becomes impossible to be precise. So I say that those scales are good enough. But I will make Divine Buster A and Starlight Breaker A++ (I mean if we take the movie or the Blaster version of it) But I don't think this should be in the Q&A thread, despite being an interesting concept.
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Old 2013-04-28, 13:14   Link #4237
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Actually they also ranked spells based on destructive power.

For example:
Classification
Magic system Mid-Childa
Category Attack
Type Bombardment (Collection)
Rank S
Parameters
Power AAA (S if Plus version)
Range C (B if Plus version)
Casting speed E (F if Plus version)
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Old 2013-05-01, 12:53   Link #4238
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can somebody refresh my memory of where it was said that Rin also saw Shirou (when he was small) swinging on the bar, I remember Sakura in HF, but I don't remember Rin though.
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Old 2013-05-01, 14:16   Link #4239
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Rin's was in the epilogue of UBW, I believe.
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Old 2013-05-01, 21:07   Link #4240
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I only saw the movie and she was there, so Rin might as well be in the game.
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