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Old 2010-03-04, 14:24   Link #2181
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I have a feeling this is going to be the worst reviewed mainline FF game in the west to date. It just has too many things going against it.
Sad thing is the main character is a girl since who knows how long in ff games. Some people might suspect the game fails because of the female cloud
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Old 2010-03-04, 15:24   Link #2182
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360 WMVHD png max quality VS PS3

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First 10 minutes of the 360 version: http://msxbox.dreamhosters.com/asset...utes-part1.wmv






Apparently you get to see the names of the characters in the subtitle when they talk that's why you see the name Snow in that subtitle.
Yeah I still can't believe how badly they botched the 360 port. I'm still in the midst of debating what exactly I am going to do about it. I plan on getting a PS3 at some point, but at the same time I kind of don't really want it just yet. Way to make it tough on us Square Enix.
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Old 2010-03-04, 16:38   Link #2183
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It looks like the game will have downloadable content, after all. This is a part of an interview that appeared in a dutch magazine:

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At first we wanted a simultaneous release for all markets, so therefore it was intended that we would create identical versions. When we noticed that we couldn't make it, we decided that we wanted to keep the period between the Japanese and the Western release as short as possible. We had a moment where we considered to add extra content to the western version, but then the release date of the international version would have been pushed back for a couple of months. We did prepare DLC, but it will also be available in the West in the future.
From the looks of it, the DLC will be available only in Japan, and will be released some time later in the international version disc, included in the normal game.

And in another interview, Kitase Yoshinori said that the western version won't have a Japanese voice option, and that he was even surprised when he knew about this kind of request. But he also said that there wouldn't be enough space in a disc to include both English and Japanese voices.
Hm, I was already expecting for this. But English voices are also fine, anyway.
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Old 2010-03-04, 16:43   Link #2184
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DLC eh? I remember them saying there wouldn't be a while back. Guess they want to adopt a western model ASAP.

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Sad thing is the main character is a girl since who knows how long in ff games. Some people might suspect the game fails because of the female cloud
I don't think anyone will think that. The main point is that "linearity" has inherently become a negative term in the mind of most western gamers. Most successful games which are linear usually have an accompanying multiplayer component to them in order to justify their costs.

People aren't considering that the game is a 60 hour rpg anymore, Also impressions from Japan have also haven't done much to help. The significance of simultaneous worldwide releases has been ignored by square enix for too long. They have been content to manage their earnings reports by different regional release dates but it puts a dent on the hype levels for their games.
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Old 2010-03-04, 17:08   Link #2185
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god i hope people don't. but what was the main reason FF13 is flunking? is it because theirs no free roam?
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Old 2010-03-04, 17:10   Link #2186
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People need to just wait to play the game before they start whining.

OMG no towns! OMG it's linear!! BAWWWWWWWW

I'm on chapter 11 and just beginning to get some freedom, but really, the linearity of the game has not bothered me one bit. Do people forget that all these games have really been is getting from point A to point B?

When did FF8 start allowing side quests? Wasn't it when you get access to piloting Balamb Garden? Also, from what I remember FFX was damn linear for a while but I don't see nearly as much complaining about that one...

The presentation is great, battles are flashy, and the music is beautiful. I'm sorry but the gameplay aspect has never been the strongest point when it comes to FF games IMO. I'm having a lot of fun just being immersed in the environment.

PS What's up with Vanille's english VA? God that english trailer gave me nightmares
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Old 2010-03-04, 18:36   Link #2187
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Gameradar's review is up now too:
http://www.gamesradar.com/ps3/final-...5846527007/p-1
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Old 2010-03-04, 21:17   Link #2188
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A good review I thought. Covered key points and certainly made clear what kind of experience people are getting into. Damn I want to play this already .
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Old 2010-03-04, 22:35   Link #2189
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Thanks for posting that review. Definitely provided some insight.
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Old 2010-03-04, 23:12   Link #2190
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sounds like ffxiii is basically a visual novel

whether this is good or bad will depend on the story.
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Old 2010-03-04, 23:38   Link #2191
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from time to time I hate running around towns bacck and fourth
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Old 2010-03-05, 00:26   Link #2192
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sounds like ffxiii is basically a visual novel

whether this is good or bad will depend on the story.
It wouldn't (doesn't?) surprise me if that's partially true since the visual novel seems to be among the only game types Japanese gamers seem to be capable of handling/will buy these days. JRPG makes up the other half.

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I like the question at the end, "is it better than Star Ocean?" If the answer can't easily be "in every way possibly" then things definitely wouldn't be looking up for FFXIII.

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Old 2010-03-05, 01:01   Link #2193
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Yeah I still can't believe how badly they botched the 360 port. I'm still in the midst of debating what exactly I am going to do about it. I plan on getting a PS3 at some point, but at the same time I kind of don't really want it just yet. Way to make it tough on us Square Enix.
Eurogamer says it could have been worse:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/di...-xiii-face-off


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"The rumours are true. Final Fantasy XIII on Xbox 360 isn't anywhere near as impressive as it is on PlayStation 3. The real kicker is that it's a lot worse than it should have been."


Lost of shadowing in the 360 version and micro blocky look to cutscenes because of the heavy compression the 360 version has.

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BTW Reviews are coming out and there good but not great scores...
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Old 2010-03-05, 01:08   Link #2194
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More scores:

# RPG Site - 85%
# The Lost Gamer - 9
# TheSixthAxis - 8
# Eurogamer - 8
# PushSquare - 3/4
# Digital Spy - 4/5
# Videogamer - 7
# CVG - 9.2
# IGN UK - 8.3
# BritXbox - 7
# X360 Achievements - 82%
# HardGame2 - 9.5

Source is GAF.
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Old 2010-03-05, 01:20   Link #2195
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More scores:

# RPG Site - 85%
# The Lost Gamer - 9
# TheSixthAxis - 8
# Eurogamer - 8
# PushSquare - 3/4
# Digital Spy - 4/5
# Videogamer - 7
# CVG - 9.2
# IGN UK - 8.3
# BritXbox - 7
# X360 Achievements - 82%
# HardGame2 - 9.5

Source is GAF.
how much advertising dollars do these reviews site get form SquareEnix?

i trust professional review sites about as much as i trusted dick cheney.
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Old 2010-03-05, 01:48   Link #2196
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Seems to match fan reviews and pretty much average ratings compared to all the other FF games.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps3/review/928790.html
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Old 2010-03-05, 08:05   Link #2197
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Well, clearly it won't be any Game of the Year awards. I had been deluding myself for months into believing that the hype would drive it there.

But I'll take a game scoring in the mid-80s.
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Old 2010-03-05, 08:08   Link #2198
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This is my review like normal people and player:

Graphics:
Very nice, do not notice much with the cut movies (one tide).
The exchange between exploration and combat is instantaneous, she was not the change of the screen.
The characters are very well made, the monsters, so far, much less. (the first real boss is a disgusting pile of shapeless polygons)
The colors are fabulous, perhaps one of the most colorful games I've played.

Audio
Without infamy and without praise.
The music was anything but memorable or particularly justified.
At least they are not annoying (like that of Star Ocean TLH for example).
They will accompany the action in a less than marginal.
Let's say you do not even notice that there are ....

Gameplay:
There is no gameplay to date.
The game is essentially "go ahead and press A during the fighting."
The maps are not linear, define linear would be an understatement.
We say that is a game less than two-dimensional.
Is not even one-dimensional.
It's one-vector.
There is no right, no left, there is no up, there is no under, not behind it.
There's only forward.
It 'almost impossible to lose anything because the map is always a long line, there is no backtracking, and you absolutely can not divert the road.
For the first 3 hours I was not even allowed to accumulate experience.
The experience began to accumulate later, when you use magic.
At this point you can not grind (read level without mercy killing monsters).
The monsters have not respawn if not limited.
All this combined with the one-dimensional game and lack of backtracking makes the accumulating experience a forced path, predetermined by programmers.
The various "classes" are limited.
There's the attacker, the occultist (a kind of striker to stand), the editor and a couple of other specialties that do not currently come to me but quite redundant.
Here is mathematically impossible to do.
Entries are two physical attacks, magic attacks.
So if you want to make lightning agile fighter you wanted .... Well you can not.
Sure you can make it instead occultist striker .... Both states are always the default, changing only the ancillary skills.
All this plus the fact that unlike FFXII does not have any control of the rest of the party.
Once set the optimum Preference (fortunately editable in battle at will) the members of that party do not control them comfortable.
So you can not do anything to avoid your attacks and not quite black magician magic .... It will always do what he wants.
More so that everyone here has an element and all magic users (for history, not my will), then peace ... They chose the others for you ... So much for the role.
City there are none, png there are none.
The only shop is online and can be found opposite the save point (fortunately many).
So it's a mistake to play an RPG, even a JRPG .... simply is nothing.
I hope that when you unlock all the options (like changing party members for example, or decide who will lead) something changes.

EDIT:
Forgot.
After each battle the HP back up ....
And there are no MP.
For the series: Less beat for children demented ..... sadness.
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Old 2010-03-05, 10:22   Link #2199
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Blah I need to start searching for a good deal on a HDTV and PS3 before the game comes out. Any suggestions? lol
Only legal and moral ones, huh? Can't help then~

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I have a feeling this is going to be the worst reviewed mainline FF game in the west to date. It just has too many things going against it.
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I don't think anyone will think that. The main point is that "linearity" has inherently become a negative term in the mind of most western gamers.
And I don't really see why. Yeah, sand box games are fun and branching story lines as well, but there's never such a big difference after all. The negative points (FF13 I mean) people have been complaining about don't bother me at all.
Also: I know I'll get it anyway, so why should I start complaining before I play it myself?

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People need to just wait to play the game before they start whining.

OMG no towns! OMG it's linear!! BAWWWWWWWW

I'm on chapter 11 and just beginning to get some freedom, but really, the linearity of the game has not bothered me one bit. Do people forget that all these games have really been is getting from point A to point B?

When did FF8 start allowing side quests? Wasn't it when you get access to piloting Balamb Garden? Also, from what I remember FFX was damn linear for a while but I don't see nearly as much complaining about that one...

The presentation is great, battles are flashy, and the music is beautiful. I'm sorry but the gameplay aspect has never been the strongest point when it comes to FF games IMO. I'm having a lot of fun just being immersed in the environment.
AMEN!
Well, I haven't played it yet, but I couldn't agree more.

It's just 'cooler' to bitch instead of enjoying something popular. Because popular is a negative term too I'm aware that hyping can be just as bad, but come on the haters are plentyful, I'm getting sick of it. Every game is boring or a rip-off or the same sh*t all over again or it's too different or the graphics suck. It's the gamer's way of emo D:. I mean that generally and not just looking here ;D

4 days left! \o/ And then I can finally make my own mind about it Whoopwhoop!

Ah and I too have an immense problem turning down CE D: Not just the game itself, but the guide too. It's mean to make things like that :,(. But my FF copy is the normal selling price, since I ordered early. Now it costs double lol. And I get it on the day of release, so I couldn't be more content
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Old 2010-03-05, 16:57   Link #2200
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Reviews so far:

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* RPG Site - 85%
* The Lost Gamer - 9
* TheSixthAxis - 8
* Eurogamer - 8
* PushSquare - 3/4
* Digital Spy - 4/5
* Videogamer - 7
* CVG - 9.2
* IGN UK - 8.3
* BritXbox - 7
* X360 Achievements - 82%
* HardGame2 - 9.5
* GamesRadar - 10
* EDGE - 5.
* MS Xbox World - 9
* IGN AU - 8.4
* Nowgamer PS3 8.5/10
* Nowgamer 360 8.4/10
* GameReactor 7/10
* Gamespot - 8.5
* Joystiq (No Score)
* TeamXbox - 5/10
* 1up A-
* GameInformer 9.25/10
* OXM 9/10
* Wired Game|Life review - 6/10
* G4TV 4/5
* RPG Site (Xbox 360 Version) - 70%
* Gametrailers 8.6
* Gamespy 4.5/5
Game is averaging about 8-9.
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