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Old 2007-12-21, 09:30   Link #261
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And well, that's actually not so bad. I usually prefer the more combat-oriented heroines over the Aerith-Rinoa-Yuna damsel types.
Aeris is not the damsel type. =P Count how many times Cloud saved her, and then count how many times she saved Cloud/The entire world.

I count one time Cloud saved her, and that was in the church when they first met. Although I think she still could have escaped by herself since it was pointed out that she's been running from them since she was little.

And when everyone rescued her form Shinra Headquarters. I don't think that should count because the only reason she was there was because of Marlene. Hardly a damsel type if you're in trouble because you sacrificed yourself for another.

As for Cloud being rescued by her... Well we can even count the second time they met, when he fell on her flowers. Right off the top of my head... she died to save the planet, she guided Cloud out of the lifestream when Northern Crater was collapsing, and saved the planet again whilst in the lifestream, against meteor.

And these are just FFVII ones. As for Advent Children... She carried him through a huge ball of blue fire, cured his geostigma, and restored fatal gun and materia wounds from Loz and Yazoo at the end.

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Old 2007-12-21, 15:40   Link #262
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She is. She plays her role in the story, but I'm referring more to the character template she was based on.

Cloud was her "bodyguard" in FFVII.
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Old 2007-12-21, 22:22   Link #263
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Bah. I refuse to have her placed in the same category as Rinoa and Yuna. =P (The ones that needed to be "saved")

And although Cloud was her "bodyguard", she still ended being his bodyguard.(in a sense)

I would even go so far as to say that if FFVII and AC were both taken into account, Cloud would be Aeris' "damsel" in distress.
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Old 2007-12-23, 07:51   Link #264
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I've just seen the FF Versus XIII new trailers from the promo DVD that came with the Square Enix concept book 'Cloud'.

All I can say is, Holy Haruhi-sama, never would I have thought that even I, would be swept off my feet by another guy. The main character is the most GAR character to ever appear in an FF series.

Cloud, not even Sephiroth is as amazing as he is. They would probably lose even if they worked together, they probably can't touch him at all.

He even draws first blood for the FF series.
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Old 2007-12-23, 08:39   Link #265
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I've just seen the FF Versus XIII new trailers from the promo DVD that came with the Square Enix concept book 'Cloud'.

All I can say is, Holy Haruhi-sama, never would I have thought that even I, would be swept off my feet by another guy. The main character is the most GAR character to ever appear in an FF series.

Cloud, not even Sephiroth is as amazing as he is. They would probably lose even if they worked together, they probably can't touch him at all.

He even draws first blood for the FF series.
Yea, he is pretty badass isn't he? Kinda makes you wonder how the enemies he'll be facing are supposed to put up a challenge. I suppose they'll be pretty monstrous themselves.
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Old 2007-12-23, 17:26   Link #266
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He even draws first blood for the FF series.
Hmm, wasn't that Seifer in FFVIII? He cuts Squall in the opening sequence
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Old 2007-12-23, 20:05   Link #267
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Unfortunately, I believe Nomura said that the trailer is more representative of his abilities pretty late in the game :P
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Old 2007-12-23, 21:11   Link #268
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Hmm, wasn't that Seifer in FFVIII? He cuts Squall in the opening sequence
If he means literally see blood on the characters, it would be after Cloud omnislashes Sephiroth. He's covered in blood before he disappears with the whole "light coming out of his body" thing.
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Old 2007-12-23, 22:46   Link #269
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Unfortunately, I believe Nomura said that the trailer is more representative of his abilities pretty late in the game :P
Not really surprising. If he was like that from the start of the game, it would get pretty boring. The trailer gives you something to strive for.
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Old 2007-12-23, 23:10   Link #270
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Versus is the one I've been waiting for, ever since I seen the the trailer for both of em, Versus is the one I'm most looking forward to.

The thing about Lightning being a feminine "Cloud" I do see it as her being the long lost sister of Cloud got Advent Children to blame for that

and thank god I don't have to worry about getting a PS3 and a big ass HDTV for this, as I alrdy got em all

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DMC4 isnt really on my list, i dunno, never been a huge fan of DMC o_o
BLASHPEMY!!! How can you not be a fan of one of the best action games there is?! besides Ninja Gaiden that is
Loving CoD4, its great fun tearing it up online
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Old 2007-12-24, 15:37   Link #271
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Yea, he is pretty badass isn't he? Kinda makes you wonder how the enemies he'll be facing are supposed to put up a challenge. I suppose they'll be pretty monstrous themselves.
Yep, after playing Crisis Core, I'm thinking that they probably have something really insane for FFXIII.

I still get killed in missions 9-x-x, I expect much tougher things to come in FFXIII if the main character is so powerful.
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Old 2008-01-16, 12:15   Link #272
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Woot looks like there gona be some info on it in the nest issue of Famitsu

According to Forever-fantasy.net, the next issue of Famitsu Weekly will feature some exclusive new details on Square-Enix’s forthcoming PlayStation 3 title, Final Fantasy XIII.

According to the 'next week' feature in this week’s magazine, the next issue should have new information on the highly anticipated RPG title, which arrives on January 25. Whether this will include new images of the game in action or not is currently unknown.

Final Fantasy XIII (along with Final Fantasy Versus XIII and a mobile phone game) is a part of the Fabula Nova Crystallis, which is Latin for "The New Tale of the Christal". Final Fantasy XIII centres on a character named Lightning, who is banished from the kingdom of Cocoon into a lower world. Although we have only seen one character so far in the trailers, Lightning is still not confirmed as the main character.

Both Final Fantasy XIII and Final Fantasy Versus XIII will be running on Square's White Engine, which takes full advantage of the PS3’s processor.

Final Fantasy XIII is currently set for a release in fall 2008. Stay tuned for further information as it becomes available.



http://www.psu.com/New-Final-Fantasy...0002446-p0.php
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Old 2008-01-16, 16:13   Link #273
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Does anyone seriously think FFXIII will be released Fall 2008? If it were, it will be a major player in helping push the PS3 this year. Somehow I can't quite believe it.

I've almost lost all interest in the Final Fantasy series. I loved all the games since VI, but XII was abit weird for me. Everything was appealing save for the characters, and because of that I couldn't go on. The game had terrific art, a fantastic battle system and incredible graphics. Everything was well put together but the characters couldn't keep me going -- I guess this was when I realized I don't care so much for plot as I do for characters. The plot was mildly interesting but took too long to unfold because of all the battling done in-between, and that made it hard for me to keep my concentration. Yasumi Matsuno is a genius, and I don't know if this fault is his, but the political intrigue should have really taken the backstage and deferred to characters.

I think another problem is that while I've been continually maturing and changing, the Final Fantasy series is still geared to the widest audience spectrum possible and has increasingly metrosexual teenage leads that limits the storyline developments. Unless they have master story tellers, this makes it hard for me to take to FFXIII even with all its incredible jaw-dropping graphics. My interest is in it is how it'll play out in Sony's PS3 strategy and the sagging Japanese market for high-powered next-gen consoles.

End of the day, I will probably still buy FFXIII though. Here's to hoping it's of some good..
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Old 2008-01-16, 16:26   Link #274
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Yea i don't believe its gonna come out in the fall of 2008 more like in February 09
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Old 2008-01-16, 22:57   Link #275
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Does anyone seriously think FFXIII will be released Fall 2008? If it were, it will be a major player in helping push the PS3 this year. Somehow I can't quite believe it.

I've almost lost all interest in the Final Fantasy series. I loved all the games since VI, but XII was abit weird for me. Everything was appealing save for the characters, and because of that I couldn't go on. The game had terrific art, a fantastic battle system and incredible graphics. Everything was well put together but the characters couldn't keep me going -- I guess this was when I realized I don't care so much for plot as I do for characters. The plot was mildly interesting but took too long to unfold because of all the battling done in-between, and that made it hard for me to keep my concentration. Yasumi Matsuno is a genius, and I don't know if this fault is his, but the political intrigue should have really taken the backstage and deferred to characters.

I think another problem is that while I've been continually maturing and changing, the Final Fantasy series is still geared to the widest audience spectrum possible and has increasingly metrosexual teenage leads that limits the storyline developments. Unless they have master story tellers, this makes it hard for me to take to FFXIII even with all its incredible jaw-dropping graphics. My interest is in it is how it'll play out in Sony's PS3 strategy and the sagging Japanese market for high-powered next-gen consoles.

End of the day, I will probably still buy FFXIII though. Here's to hoping it's of some good..
Metrosexual teens?

Lightning is plain and simply: pure fanservice.
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Old 2008-01-17, 04:23   Link #276
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I highly doubt it'll be released in the Fall, especially if DQIX is schedule to be released around the same window. We'll get it in '09.

Also,
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Old 2008-01-17, 04:40   Link #277
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Ah yes, Good old Shiva and Ifrit. I missed those guys in XII.
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Old 2008-01-17, 10:09   Link #278
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here's a few more pictures. Sorry can't rehost them right now since I'm not at home.
http://ff7ac.hotcafe.to/


Anyway, both games are looking nice.
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Old 2008-01-17, 10:21   Link #279
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My curiousity here but er... Who is Lightning? I haven't followed FFXIII since the trailer was shown (which was awesome).
As for the other trailer with the character vaguely making me think of Sasuke (Must be the hair) you should never take a cutscene as a label of a character's power. They are cutscenes. You can watch some guy open a total can of whoop ass in them, but when you fight them they are suddenly some weak and panzy thing that you could beat with your pinky
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Old 2008-01-17, 11:09   Link #280
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Metrosexual teens?

Lightning is plain and simply: pure fanservice.
I think he's referring to Nomura's penchant for all things Gackt among other things. (The guy is a fan, I think.) His male characters outnumber his female ones for one thing, but also I see this as SE trying to reel in the female fanbase more.

Amano has some pretty androgynous as well, but they don't exactly fit the Gackt-like criticism that has been said about Nomura's designs.

Another thing is with regard to the "teens" part of the equation. It would be great to feature older characters once in a while (20's and above) just to keep things fresh, or put a new spin to the overall story.
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