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Old 2006-04-09, 02:28   Link #1
kj1980
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Archer - discuss Ep. 14 hints

Rareness is indeed as few characters in anime can create as much discussion in the coolness and mystery of this muscular, dark-skinned, yet sexy person.

Some may say that his identity was revealed in this episode. Others may say that it was not explicitly so - that only subtle hints were laid out. In either case, clues are revealed in this episode which indirectly leads to the answer of his true identity.

I'm going to leave this thread open. If this thread goes down the waste hole into trolling and member bashing, this thread will be closed.

Otherwise - let's see how this thread can "mature." EMPHASIS ON MATURE.
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Old 2006-04-09, 02:52   Link #2
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The whole hints/fore-shadowing is a subject of oddity. It doesn't apply similarly to everyone, as everyone has their own way of percieving stuff. Take Mai-Hime for example, as a rabid fan of G.E.A.R Dendoh, I knew where the inspiration for Mai, Natsuki and Natsuki's child came from. C-Drive and White Lion Drive. But not everyone knows of it. Same goes to Sarah Gallargah of Otome.

The whole Archer/gem thing. A lot say that it automatically points to *insert name of thought*, but it can't always be interpreted as such. Those who look closer to details can argue that [
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The game players know more detail about the hero's realm differing from timelines, but anime watchers don't know about it. They may not imagine the possibility that
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Take myself for example. Had I not played the game. And had not they point out all those flashbacks, I would've assumed a few possibilities for Archer.

1. Shirou's dad.
2. Rin's dad.
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Old 2006-04-09, 03:13   Link #3
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The only explicit way to resolve who Archer really was is to get

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Old 2006-04-09, 03:56   Link #4
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Archer is the Chuck Norris of Fate/saty night

about his identity:

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Old 2006-04-09, 04:05   Link #5
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about his identity:

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Shouldn't he be donning military uniform with a sniper at his post-teenage years?
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Old 2006-04-09, 04:18   Link #6
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Well from what the anime showed us the first thing that came to my mind was that he was Rin's dad. After I watched it again and paid more attention to the words he was saying it came to me he could be Shirou. So it may not be exactly clear cut but it's not that hidden either, a good twist I must say though. Well that's who I think he is :P
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Old 2006-04-09, 04:35   Link #7
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The other clues that i gues not everyone realize is ...
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Old 2006-04-09, 04:50   Link #8
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Ahaha my incessant bitching got a new thread made.

Anyway, I really had no idea who it was, but among my speculations were Shirou's father....
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But I never for a moment could have imagined that he was a
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It's a good twist, and I really regret having it spoiled... but I'd best not get hung up on it, since that's not what this thread is about.
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Old 2006-04-09, 06:57   Link #9
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There's isn't a time pardox here, servants have been brought all over from the past & future.

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Old 2006-04-09, 07:19   Link #10
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Ahaha my incessant bitching got a new thread made.

Anyway, I really had no idea who it was, but among my speculations were Shirou's father....
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But I never for a moment could have imagined that he was a
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It's a good twist, and I really regret having it spoiled... but I'd best not get hung up on it, since that's not what this thread is about.
damn dood..
pretty much the same as you
first thing that came to my mind was..it must be shirou's dad

i wanted to know pretty bad so i pretty much just spoiled it for myself
i really regret having it spoiled it lol
but this series will still kick ass
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Old 2006-04-09, 07:28   Link #11
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Just a thought on Archer's motivation.
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Old 2006-04-09, 07:58   Link #12
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Just a thought on Archer's motivation.
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Truth is :-

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Old 2006-04-09, 09:33   Link #13
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Makubex : you may want to label that as "Complete game spoiler" ?
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Old 2006-04-09, 11:46   Link #14
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Truth is :-

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Old 2006-04-09, 17:51   Link #15
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I'm wondering if Archer's sacrifice will go unacknowledged now...

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Old 2006-04-09, 18:03   Link #16
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Old 2006-04-09, 18:12   Link #17
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I'm wondering if Archer's sacrifice will go unacknowledged now...

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I don't this his sacrifice will go unknowledged.... actually part of me has a sneaking suspicion that Rin knew Archer's identity....

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Old 2006-04-09, 18:17   Link #18
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I'm a bit mad on myself for not finding out Archer's identity. >_>
I was trying to figure it out without reading the spoilers, tried to follow Js2756 tips:

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So since some people are still having problems figuring out Archer's identity, here are some clues:

1) Refers to our lovable loli as "Ilya"
2) Can image items
3) Leaves behind a significant item after being killed (if you really want to find out who Archer is, watch the ending credits of this episode, then episode 2 again)
4) Knows a lot about Shirou and his powers, yet his total interaction with Shirou is limited to a few conversations

It isn't too hard to figure out Archer's identity when you put all the pieces of the puzzle together.
I saw ep 14 twice, then went back to ep 2 to find out more about the pendant but only watched the begining (which led me to think of Rin's father) and didn't watch the most important part, that was Rin ressurrecting Shirou with the help of the pendant. Maybe if I had watched it all I'd have figure it out. XD
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Old 2006-04-09, 18:45   Link #20
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