F/sn Future Speculation discussion

[MakubeX2]

You heard it from the Mushroom Master himself.

No Zouken in Anime therefore No HF.

But there might be elements of HF from what I see.

Spoiler:

Sakura being adopted into Maitou Family. Suffer abuse at the hands of Shinji. Jealous of Rin. Hatred of Rin. All revealed somehow later in the show.

[Danj]

Originally Posted by Shikimori Kazuki

Spoiler for speculation based on ep13 synopsis:

Saber...depletion of mana, i WONDER what Shirou and Rin will do...MUHAHAH,ahahah *nosebleeed* oooops...

Spoiler for episode 15 speculation:

Given what the previews that have been posted here say, that scene ought to appear in episode 15. I wonder how they will handle it? Will they just imply it, or will they replace it with some other mana transfer method? For example, maybe Rin could conduct some kind of ritual or special spell in order to do the mana transfer.

[Shiroth]

Originally Posted by EvoSpace

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So there's still a slight chance Rider will come back... Because I'm sure they will be revealing Sakura's past and it'll be great to have Rider in there!

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Hmm, i'm not sure if they're gonna talk about Sakura's past - it would help out the story a lot, and for people new to the story. to understand her character.. but if they do plan, then Rider is needed. I know that in the game she dies from Saber's atttack.. but i have a strange feeling that it'll be different.

Originally Posted by Stormy

Rider vs Saber scene on top of building should be epic fight.

I agree, thats looking to be my fav' part of the series.. i just hope it goes all well, which i know it shall. ^^

[tragicsmile]

Spoiler for speculation:

If Rider is to survive, what I see most likely happening is that Sakura recalls her/turns her back into a spirit before Saber's Excalibur hits, leaving both Shirou and Shinji confused. Shinji realizes what happens, gets back to his house fuming, tries to rape Sakura and she pops his head like a balloon. However, does Sakura have any power over Rider now that Shinji is the temporary master?

[Shiroth]

Originally Posted by tragicsmile

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However, does Sakura have any power over Rider now that Shinji is the temporary master?

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I would think she would, being the original master of Rider and all - but does that actually mean anything when Shinji has control of her?

[Xellos-_^]

Originally Posted by Angelsama

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I would think she would, being the original master of Rider and all - but does that actually mean anything when Shinji has control of her?

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As the original Master, Sakura would have the command seals and be able to override any command form Shinji.

If FSN has the HF ending, it would mean Shirou ends living with Sabre, Rin, Sakura, Rider and Loli thats one lucky #*$^%&#&*

Wonders what Fuji-nee will think of it all

[demon_god04]

Originally Posted by Xellos-_^

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As the original Master, Sakura would have the command seals and be able to override any command form Shinji.

If FSN has the HF ending, it would mean Shirou ends living with Sabre, Rin, Sakura, Rider and Loli thats one lucky #*$^%&#&*

Wonders what Fuji-nee will think of it all

Spoiler for HF game spoilers and Rider speculation:

Saber aside the Loli doesnt survive the "good" ending of HF.

Maybe its just me but I really dont see Rider surviving the fight, I dunno it doesnt have the kick if one of the combatants walked away, yet again I might add

[tragicsmile]

Agreed - I have no real qualms about it; we're just trying to see how they might fit Heaven's Feel into it, no matter how unlikely that is.

[demon_god04]

Well a whole HF scenario is pretty much out the window but...

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I think they will probly add in Sakura being adopted, being abused and blaming Rin like MakubeX2 mentioned.

Maybe I just want Sakura to pop Shinji's head after all that is revealed... oh well the Fate way is just as good....

[Takemi_Ikazuchi]

You should know something about Nasu.

He LIKES to lie and say things to confuse you

ie: Satsuki arc, Tsukhime 2, Neco-Arc the movie, ect...

[evil|plushie]

Spoiler:

Hmm, there's also another way these events could play out. If Saber is running low on mana, Caster could technically use rule-breaker on her and then replenish Sabers mana couldn't she? At which point, they could easily bring in UBW Archer.

[Village Idiot]

Originally Posted by demon_god04

Well a whole HF scenario is pretty much out the window but...

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I think they will probly add in Sakura being adopted, being abused and blaming Rin like MakubeX2 mentioned.

Maybe I just want Sakura to pop Shinji's head after all that is revealed... oh well the Fate way is just as good....

Spoiler for speculation for possibilities game spoilers:

But I find HF's end for Shinji for more satisfying, and a sense of poetic justice.

[demon_god04]

Originally Posted by Village Idiot

Spoiler for speculation for possibilities game spoilers:

But I find HF's end for Shinji for more satisfying, and a sense of poetic justice.

Spoiler for reply, game spoilers:

Agreed, but as long as he doesnt live I dont have much to complain about. Im pretty easy to please when it comes to characters I dislike, ofcourse im hoping Sakura gets to do it but if its the loli and her monster pet I wont say anything agaisnt it ...

Just so long as a certain pony tail mini skirt girl doesnt go and ruin it *Glares at said girl*

[stormy001_M1A2]

No deaths in F/SN is ridiculous. The story set in a way where death is important push in storytelling..... I dunno why people so fearful of characters dying. Life is slow ascension to death anyway.

Let's celebrate their colourful life, and how they end it. Not obsessing about them.

[MakubeX2]

For those people who wanted Rider to live and proceed onto HF.....

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You are opening a Pandora's Box.

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Where every other Servant is killed off except Rider.Bad trade off, I say

[demon_god04]

Originally Posted by stormy001_M1A2

No deaths in F/SN is ridiculous. The story set in a way where death is important push in storytelling..... I dunno why people so fearful of characters dying. Life is slow ascension to death anyway.

Let's celebrate their colourful life, and how they end it. Not obsessing about them.

I agree, fanboy denial can ruin a series with obsession on who can't die because they are too "popular" *cough*gsd*cough*(ofcourse that series as a whole slew of problems so lets not go into that ) but I dont think anyone here wanted a F/sn with no deaths just wanting certain characters to survive so they can go down the ending they want.

[Sushi-Y]

Originally Posted by MakubeX2

For those people who wanted Rider to live and proceed onto HF.....

Spoiler:

You are opening a Pandora's Box.

Spoiler:

Where every other Servant is killed off except Rider.Bad trade off, I say

That doesn't really mean anything, since

Spoiler for game fact:

All the servants pretty much retire by the end of every scenario, the only difference is when and how they go.

Spoiler for game storyline:

I really don't think Rider will live, if we're going anywhere in the direction of Fate or UBW (which we are), having her live will only get in the way later. If Rider is to live, then chances are the story is going to have to take an original twist from there to somehow integrate Rider into a non-HF storyline. I believe the reason why they're showing Rider's "school seige" event and her "skyscraper battle" with Saber (her biggest non-HF events ) is to squeeze out as much content from her as possible before letting her go.

"How do you know that the anime won't head into HF instead?" I don't, but based on the discussion earlier, it seems unlikely we'll actually get the HF story. We might still see elements from it, but it wouldn't be the original Heavens Feel story from the game.

[EvoSpace]

If Rider died at this point, then the anime viewer will be missing out on her more important characteristics...

Spoiler for Game stuffs:

She hasn't used her Eyes or shown to be a loyal and caring person she really is. And if they are going to include Sakura in the future episodes without going the crazy HF route, they at least need a reason for her to be still involved in the War of the Holy Grail. If Zouken isn't there, then she at least needs a Servant. I don't think True Assassin will make a good couple with Sakura...

From the looks of it, Archer would get to show off his UBW before he goes. Berserker would be defeated by episode 15? Caster and Souichirou would be given at least one episode. There are still some episodes left to cover other topics than just Gilgamesh, Kotomine, and the main story...

[stormy001_M1A2]

Originally Posted by EvoSpace

If Rider died at this point, then the anime viewer will be missing out on her more important characteristics...

Spoiler for Game stuffs:

She hasn't used her Eyes or shown to be a loyal and caring person she really is. And if they are going to include Sakura in the future episodes without going the crazy HF route, they at least need a reason for her to be still involved in the War of the Holy Grail. If Zouken isn't there, then she at least needs a Servant. I don't think True Assassin will make a good couple with Sakura...

From the looks of it, Archer would get to show off his UBW before he goes. Berserker would be defeated by episode 15? Caster and Souichirou would be given at least one episode. There are still some episodes left to cover other topics than just Gilgamesh, Kotomine, and the main story...

I do wonder if they gonna diverge little bit so Sakura can sorta participate in the story without Heaven's Feel story path.

[Shiroth]

Originally Posted by EvoSpace

If Rider died at this point, then the anime viewer will be missing out on her more important characteristics...

Spoiler for Game stuffs:

She hasn't used her Eyes or shown to be a loyal and caring person she really is. And if they are going to include Sakura in the future episodes without going the crazy HF route, they at least need a reason for her to be still involved in the War of the Holy Grail.

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It kinda pisses me of that they'll miss out Rider's lil' bit of background that makes her a good character, people watching the story just for the first time just care about how she looks, but just maybe in her last few episodes they can show her true nature.