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Old 2006-09-07, 16:39   Link #721
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Aww.. It's another Ayu vs. Nayuki battle.

You can battle all you want but it's the bottom line (the yen, dollar) that will determine the ending imo.

How do you know there isn't a better guy than Yuuichi out there for those girls? It's not like they become nuns because of this. They do move on. The ability to move on is a theme of this title.

Shiori is 15-16 yo and Yuuichi is 16-17 yo by my estimate. Therefore, if he dates her, it's not pedo.


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Anyway I noticed this recently, but this "cousin relationship" thing seems to be quite common in animes, eg Kanon, Elfen Lied, Da Capo, Kono Minikuku mo Utsukushii Sekai and some other ones as well...and I was wondering whether cousin relationships are common in Japan or something else...

Viewing the above list with Region 1 as a buyer, only Elfen Lied and This Ugly Yet Beautiful World has made it to Region 1. In both those titles, the first cousin lost. Region 1 is the secondary market.

First cousin marriages may be legal, but there are restrictions placed, like they can't give birth to any children where I live. It's not exactly a socially acceptable thing, just legal at least in my area.

Thanks Maids! Maids! Maids! for the Ayu pics. Ayu and Misuzu are adorable!

Isn't there something else we can talk about? Ayu vs. Nayuki debating bogs down a thread eventually.
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Old 2006-09-07, 17:08   Link #722
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I think it should be a good choice to do to even impress you more of how divine the kyoAni version will be (or so I hope).

And thx for the movie Zalas, it really helped ease our thirst ^.^

And about the girl's chances, I'd say:
Spoiler:
Mai is not officially a couple with Sayuri, it is lead to believe so from yuuichi's.... little whatever you would call it! It is just popular with fans it is not official. Otherwise she wouldn't be a choice!
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Old 2006-09-07, 17:17   Link #723
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Well, she was "with" Sayuri in the OVA. It's all circumstantial still.

Nice MAD zalas! =D>
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Old 2006-09-07, 17:39   Link #724
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I remember a Hong Kong movie, Wong Kar Wai's first, As Tears Go By. It was the typical triads gangster movie--although you can't quite call it that because it originated the trend in the early ninties and went on to inspire countless copy cat films. Except there was one element in it that set it apart: the romance. The existential dilemma churning inside the mind of the main character was where his obligations would lie--was he obligated as a "Big Brother" of the gang to look out and take responsability for his reckless "Little Brother"--regardless of the foolishness involved? Or did he have to let go and allow his "Little Brother" to take responsability for his exceedingly foolish choices, and therefore, be able to live peacefully with the woman he fell in love with (awkwardly, his cousin ^^.

I asked my chinese friend, who also saw Kanon, if it was strange that there was an implied romance between two characters that happened to be cousins. He said that in China it wasn't considered that strange nor a taboo. It didn't bother him particularly.
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Old 2006-09-07, 18:28   Link #725
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Shiori is 15-16 yo and Yuuichi is 16-17 yo by my estimate. Therefore, if he dates her, it's not pedo.
I know just trying to blind myself with that fact.
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Mai is not officially a couple with Sayuri, it is lead to believe so from yuuichi's.... little whatever you would call it! It is just popular with fans it is not official. Otherwise she wouldn't be a choice!
Well I have Kanon's artbook scans and I saw a MaiXSayuri H-picture in it. And as Orion mentioned in the OVA. But I don't think we can truely conform that unless she (or Sayuri) says so in the remake.

Anyway regarding my post about the chances, it meant to be a joke, please don't take it that seriously :P
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Old 2006-09-07, 18:50   Link #726
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As for Mai X Sayuri...

The subtext was all over place in the Toei version and the OVA... it seemed pretty obvious to me.

They may have not gone the distance, but they're certainly on their way to first base.
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Old 2006-09-07, 19:06   Link #727
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I know just trying to blind myself with that fact.

Well I have Kanon's artbook scans and I saw a MaiXSayuri H-picture in it. And as Orion mentioned in the OVA. But I don't think we can truely conform that unless she (or Sayuri) says so in the remake.

Anyway regarding my post about the chances, it meant to be a joke, please don't take it that seriously :P
Actually, if you've played the PC game, there is a scene that shows Mai and Sayuri in some "yuri" action. Just a single shot though. When I last played the game, I was headed down Mai's path, and this is basically your character (Yuichi) daydreaming as he's having lunch with them. I remembered that I got this scene in a later part of the game.
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Old 2006-09-07, 19:50   Link #728
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Actually, if you've played the PC game, there is a scene that shows Mai and Sayuri in some "yuri" action. Just a single shot though. When I last played the game, I was headed down Mai's path, and this is basically your character (Yuichi) daydreaming as he's having lunch with them. I remembered that I got this scene in a later part of the game.
I haven't played the game but saw the artbook but thx for clearing that up, my dreams of maiXsayuri has faded now T_T

But about the later part of the game, can you explain further please?
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Old 2006-09-07, 23:09   Link #729
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There's also the rejected event in which the three of them have some *ahem* fun
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Old 2006-09-07, 23:36   Link #730
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A threesome ala Fate/stay night perhaps?

Details, need details. (Was it a dream or a real event?)

Please spoil us.

Looking more yuri by the second....
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Old 2006-09-08, 02:08   Link #731
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zalas, cookie for that great MV. I had to LOL when Ayu hit the tree and the next scene was Kyon holding his head. If this is what Ayu looks like in the Anime then I'm already an Ayu fan (that was Ayu right? the brown-haired chibi? She reminded me so much of SHnY's Mikuru!).

Looking forward to KyoAni's remake.
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Old 2006-09-08, 20:43   Link #732
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Well, this is potentially significant. A.F.K. has subbed the Prelude.
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Old 2006-09-08, 20:55   Link #733
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Geez. My wife is six years younger than me. We met later but if
I had been 20 and she was 15 it would have been marginal but
imagine if I was 15 and she was 10. It all depends on both mental
and emotional age.

My friend Jim's wife is 13 years younger than she is (she was barely 18 when first married). That's a weird one but......

If the relationships are right, they're right (both marriages in their eleventh
year).

So I look forward to this Kanon, we'll see if Ayu wins or not - there's a lot
of Nayuki fans out there who'd like to see her win but since she's a relative
it's a little odd.
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Old 2006-09-09, 00:49   Link #734
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I won't lie; even though I could care less about karaoke and stuff, I really was impressed at how A.F.K. did the opening song. The fade away of the words was just sweet.

Hopefully they A.F.K. does the entire Kanon series. One of the few groups which proves that one doesn't necessarily have to sacrifice quality for speed (though to be fair, they have their own shortcomings, like below average looking raws). Hopefully the translator is the same as for Haruhi (can't find credits even when I saw it three times, I must be blind), as he/she converted Kyon's humor and sarcasm almost seemlessly to English.

Spoiler for not anything plot related, but AFKs translation:



As an aside, can't get enough of Nayuki in the prelude. The way her VA delivers her lines seems so unique; maybe it's the way she speeds up then pauses, and uses high and low pitches? Can't seem to pinpoint it...
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Old 2006-09-09, 00:53   Link #735
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A threesome ala Fate/stay night perhaps?

Details, need details. (Was it a dream or a real event?)

Please spoil us.

Looking more yuri by the second....
It never actually happened in the game...

There is only Yuichi's little "dream" pic and then the rest is just Mai and Yuuichi for the actual game. Also can't girl's be fricken friends anymore ......

On another note will we get any of Sayuri's back story? They do show her in the ending credits like she was more important this time.

Site updated the charcters so we have the main 5 and yuuichi so far, not new art but an update anyway

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Old 2006-09-09, 02:09   Link #736
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Well, this is potentially significant. A.F.K. has subbed the Prelude.
Hopefully this will shu^H^H^Hconvince the rest of the random subbers to take on other, more useful, projects <_< >_>
Meanwhile, uguuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu will wander on to brainstorm more wacky parody ideas...
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Old 2006-09-09, 03:09   Link #737
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OP lyrics were good, afk rule, their video quality isn't brilliant, and Nayuki's voice rules
Second pretty much everything in this post Though the video quality suggests we're not going to be getting any fancy HD h264 mkv versions or anything, at least the translation and editing will be top notch. I was hoping Kanon wouldn't be left with a bunch of slow groups and/or low quality speedsubbers, so this is a dream come true.
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Old 2006-09-09, 03:46   Link #738
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I don't think Kanon's translation would be too difficult a feat comparing to other animes. Source material exists and unlike AIR you don't have to deal with to the more formal and archaic Japanese form. Most of the translators probabilly already know of the story... I just hope that they pay attention to detail really, like A.F.K's case for example.
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Old 2006-09-09, 03:48   Link #739
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I don't care about the other projects, Kanon will be my only new series for the next nine months^^ (thx to my civil service in Germany..)
I hope they'll also do h264 cause the video quality is so damn good in comparison.
The problem is you need a fast computer for it.
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Old 2006-09-09, 04:00   Link #740
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(either that or you don't run anything while playing back the video, or if you can use hardware acceleration wmv).
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