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Old 2010-05-24, 18:09   Link #3481
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I just started the first novel, after seeing all of the anime, and I'm starting to wonder if Kyon isn't as normal as he says he is. Haruhi is supposed to be omnipotent, without realizing it, but what if Kyon has power and doesn't realize it? He says he doesn't like being dragged around by Haruhi, but he was disappointed with the mundane world at the beginning of the story, and Haruhi conveniently fixed that problem and Kyon doesn't try to escape. Kyon is also coincidentally the only supposedly normal person Haruhi takes much interest in, though she doesn't know that the others aren't normal.
Congrats for coming up with the theory about a million people have already come up with.

Also, Kyon does have something that interests Haruhi – being John Smith. “Have I met you before?”
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Old 2010-05-24, 23:10   Link #3482
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Aw man! Read that excerpt from thw 10th book. It's frikin crazy!!! I can't wait for the whole thing to be out!
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Old 2010-05-25, 02:31   Link #3483
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Congrats for coming up with the theory about a million people have already come up with.

Also, Kyon does have something that interests Haruhi – being John Smith. “Have I met you before?”
To quote tvtropes' Wild Man Guessing page for Haruhi:
Spoiler for (an unforgivable dive into speculation which, I will have you know, disqualifies this post from providing solid evidence of anything):
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Old 2010-05-25, 05:20   Link #3484
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To quote tvtropes' Wild Man Guessing page for Haruhi:
Spoiler for (an unforgivable dive into speculation which, I will have you know, disqualifies this post from providing solid evidence of anything):
All this theory doesn't change one major fact; if Kyon is the real god, then he ceased to be Kyon.
He will no longer be one of US, someone we can relate to. Someone who thinks like us, talks like us, and have nothing but his wits to beat back those more powerful than he... and succeeding.

If he has god powers the story would be ruined. KYON would be ruined.

Everything he did would be a lie. All his triumphs would just be mere games. Nothing he did up to this point would have mattered. He didn't earn any of his victory's at all.

The story is more important, above all. And for the story to work, Kyon needs to be a normal human.
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Old 2010-05-25, 07:24   Link #3485
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All this theory doesn't change one major fact; if Kyon is the real god, then he ceased to be Kyon.
He will no longer be one of US, someone we can relate to. Someone who thinks like us, talks like us, and have nothing but his wits to beat back those more powerful than he... and succeeding.

If he has god powers the story would be ruined. KYON would be ruined.

Everything he did would be a lie. All his triumphs would just be mere games. Nothing he did up to this point would have mattered. He didn't earn any of his victory's at all.

The story is more important, above all. And for the story to work, Kyon needs to be a normal human.
Whole Heartedly Agreed. I'm don't believe Kyon's a God.
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Old 2010-05-25, 09:02   Link #3486
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Whole Heartedly Agreed. I'm don't believe Kyon's a God.
To make my view more clear, it is certainly possible Kyon is a God. The same way it is possible for Haruhi to decapitate Mikuru and split-roast her corpse over a fire in book 10.

But in both cases, it will completely screw with the entire setup of the franchise.

You could say I believe in the author?
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Old 2010-05-25, 09:08   Link #3487
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Does anyone else think that Kyon is the Tanigawa Nagaru? If the events, like shown in the video of the security camera (commercial for season 2) take place in 2007/7/7 and he had a three year hiatus...
Oh Haruhi, I may have just lost my music mind.
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Old 2010-05-25, 09:25   Link #3488
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Whole Heartedly Agreed. I'm don't believe Kyon's a God.
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To make my view more clear, it is certainly possible Kyon is a God. The same way it is possible for Haruhi to decapitate Mikuru and split-roast her corpse over a fire in book 10.

But in both cases, it will completely screw with the entire setup of the franchise.

You could say I believe in the author?
If I had to chose the most likely prospect, other than Haruhi, as God, I would pick Tsuruya. She is obviously not as normal as she claims. She sets on the sidelines, enjoying the action, and egging Haruhi on when things get too slow. She seems to know what is really happening and she is entirely to quick to claim that she, like Kyon, is a normal human.
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Old 2010-05-25, 10:17   Link #3489
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Does anyone else think that Kyon is the Tanigawa Nagaru? If the events, like shown in the video of the security camera (commercial for season 2) take place in 2007/7/7 and he had a three year hiatus...
Oh Haruhi, I may have just lost my music mind.
Not too long ago, this was actually suspected because of the seating arrangement when they just started their first year. Given Kyon's location at the time, his name should either start with 'Ta' or something else...
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Old 2010-05-25, 11:29   Link #3490
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To quote tvtropes' Wild Man Guessing page for Haruhi:
Spoiler for (an unforgivable dive into speculation which, I will have you know, disqualifies this post from providing solid evidence of anything):
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Old 2010-05-25, 13:15   Link #3491
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Well, I'm new to this part of the forums. So please have mercy on me. I've been lurking here since 2006. But whatever, here goes my first post.

In my first post, I have some things to address:
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Old 2010-05-25, 20:00   Link #3492
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I would read the novel of Suzumiya Haruhi. No doubt about it but the covers I would hide...you know why? Because I don't like it..haha..
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Old 2010-05-25, 21:39   Link #3493
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I would read the novel of Suzumiya Haruhi. No doubt about it but the covers I would hide...you know why? Because I don't like it..haha..
You don't like the Noizi Ito covers, you mean?


(I'm not entirely sure I understand what "I don't like it" is referring to, which is why I ask. I'm not a big fan of the illustrated covers myself - I like her illustrations, but the covers are kind of boring while simultaneously feeling gaudy to me.)
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Old 2010-05-26, 00:27   Link #3494
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Personally, I love Noizi Ito's covers, but if you do't like them, you can always get the paperback instead.
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Old 2010-05-26, 16:30   Link #3495
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Well, I'm new to this part of the forums. So please have mercy on me. I've been lurking here since 2006. But whatever, here goes my first post.

In my first post, I have some things to address:
Spoiler for Haruhi:


Thanks for listening to my drivel.
Holy crap. I've never thought about the
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situation like that..But now that you mention it I'm kind of in agreement with you.
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Old 2010-05-27, 01:02   Link #3496
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Not too long ago, this was actually suspected because of the seating arrangement when they just started their first year. Given Kyon's location at the time, his name should either start with 'Ta' or something else...
IIRC, the students were being seated in order of their names. Since Kyon was seated in front of Haruhi, that implies that his name comes before her in the alphabetical or Kana order. In Japanese, T comes right after S, which comes right after K, and the vowels are in the order A, I, U, E, O, so Kyon's surname very likely starts with a K or with Sa/Shi/Su.
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Old 2010-05-27, 02:19   Link #3497
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IIRC, the students were being seated in order of their names. Since Kyon was seated in front of Haruhi, that implies that his name comes before her in the alphabetical or Kana order. In Japanese, T comes right after S, which comes right after K, and the vowels are in the order A, I, U, E, O, so Kyon's surname very likely starts with a K or with Sa/Shi/Su.
I remember a line in disappearance said by Kyon when he was looking Haruhi's name in the student register (in the Baka Tsuki translation, before they took it down.) that went something along the line of "Between Senou and Suzuki". I'm not exactly sure if that was the exact wording though.
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Old 2010-05-27, 04:26   Link #3498
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I remember a line in disappearance said by Kyon when he was looking Haruhi's name in the student register (in the Baka Tsuki translation, before they took it down.) that went something along the line of "Between Senou and Suzuki". I'm not exactly sure if that was the exact wording though.
Hmm... this point again.

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IIRC, the students were being seated in order of their names. Since Kyon was seated in front of Haruhi, that implies that his name comes before her in the alphabetical or Kana order. In Japanese, T comes right after S, which comes right after K, and the vowels are in the order A, I, U, E, O, so Kyon's surname very likely starts with a K or with Sa/Shi/Su.
From the description I gave in the above spoiler tag, the surnames of the girls who sit in front of and behind Kyon do not affect Kyon's seating position. It is the boys' surnames before and after Kyon that matter (namely, Sakaki in front and Taniguchi behind him). Like I discussed in the space-saving spoiler box above, Kyon's surname can be anything like Sato, Sugiyama, Tachibana, Takahashi, Tanaka, or Tanigawa (as long as his name fits between "Sakaki" and "Taniguchi")
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Old 2010-05-27, 14:09   Link #3499
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Hmm... this point again.

Spoiler for Detailed explanation of Japanese alphabetical ordering:




From the description I gave in the above spoiler tag, the surnames of the girls who sit in front of and behind Kyon do not affect Kyon's seating position. It is the boys' surnames before and after Kyon that matter (namely, Sakaki in front and Taniguchi behind him). Like I discussed in the space-saving spoiler box above, Kyon's surname can be anything like Sato, Sugiyama, Tachibana, Takahashi, Tanaka, or Tanigawa (as long as his name fits between "Sakaki" and "Taniguchi")
Oh, thanks for explaining that scene, I see your point there.
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