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View Poll Results: Fate/stay Night Episode 14 Rating
Perfect 10 170 62.96%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 69 25.56%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 14 5.19%
7 out of 10 : Good 10 3.70%
6 out of 10 : Average 1 0.37%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 2 0.74%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 1 0.37%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 1 0.37%
1 out of 10 : Painful 2 0.74%
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Old 2006-04-10, 03:13   Link #241
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i thought it mentioned his body was made of steel or something
it looked like archer took alot more abuse than from beserker than saber
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Old 2006-04-10, 03:35   Link #242
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Other then dramatic effect, what makes the moon spotlighting Archer ?
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Old 2006-04-10, 03:39   Link #243
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Yeah seriously that was confusing, neva knew the world (or maybe the moon moved)
could suddenly spin so fast and exactly pinpoint archer's position.. =P
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Old 2006-04-10, 03:44   Link #244
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since he turned everything dark and the loli girl couldnt sense him he was prob buying time while he was chanting his thing to create that UBW
idk but who cares it looked cool.
maybe it was needed for his UBW to work..
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Old 2006-04-10, 04:17   Link #245
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The Einzberg wanted the strongest Servant to win the war, so it's not surprisingly they summoned a Demi God. It's logical that if you want to win a war, you'll naturally go for the best in weapons.

Besides deing a Demi God, Heracles is also a master of all weaponaries, so he's suited to be any class of Servants with the exception of being a Caster. The Einzberg figured that to bring out all of Heracles' talents, they made him a Berserker, sacrificing other things that he is well known for.
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Old 2006-04-10, 04:23   Link #246
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lol poor rin wanted something strong too. but ended up getting archer
who was strong also..(can prob own all the other servants besides saber maybe)
too bad he wasnt "best of the best" as he put it since heracles killed him in the end
although archer did kill him 5 times
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Old 2006-04-10, 04:40   Link #247
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Well, the Einzbergs did target at making Heracles their Servant in this Grail War. They cheated by digging out one of the weapons Heracles had possessed in his life and used it in their summoning ritual.
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Old 2006-04-10, 04:46   Link #248
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Well, the Einzbergs did target at making Heracles their Servant in this Grail War. They cheated by digging out one of the weapons Heracles had possessed in his life and used it in their summoning ritual.
If you want to put that way, then both
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Old 2006-04-10, 04:47   Link #249
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Old 2006-04-10, 04:49   Link #250
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You hit the nail on the head.

More discussion regarding that in the identity speculation thread...might wanna go there to discuss it instead.
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Old 2006-04-10, 04:51   Link #251
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So the 5 times you guys mention about Archer killing Berserker was all in UBW? What about outside? He delivered 3 strikes that I would call 'finishing blows' to anyone. So he died 8 times?
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Old 2006-04-10, 04:52   Link #252
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Well, the Einzbergs did target at making Heracles their Servant in this Grail War. They cheated by digging out one of the weapons Heracles had possessed in his life and used it in their summoning ritual.
lol that wasnt in the anime..but it doesnt spoil anything
damn what about the SUPERVISORS!!!
shes breaking the rules..she shouldnt be able to participate in the game..
the supervisors should do something about it.
i dont think cheating is allowed or elese everyone else would do it.

in that case..then ARCHER may truely be the strongest of the strongest
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Old 2006-04-10, 04:54   Link #253
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So the 5 times you guys mention about Archer killing Berserker was all in UBW? What about outside? He delivered 3 strikes that I would call 'finishing blows' to anyone. So he died 8 times?
Well...apparently those other "finishing attacks" outside UBW didnt count as kills, considering Berserker's defensive capabilities...

Hence, it remains that Berserker only got killed 5 times by Archer, through UBW alone.
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Old 2006-04-10, 05:13   Link #254
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wow. killed 5 times from 1 move..
those earlier moves were pretty cool too...and they did nothing. wow
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Old 2006-04-10, 05:15   Link #255
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Funny thing. Archer class and only 1 arrow fired! The rest were melee attacks!
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Old 2006-04-10, 05:22   Link #256
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You hit the nail on the head.

More discussion regarding that in the identity speculation thread...might wanna go there to discuss it instead.
Well, I'm just going add my last response on the subject so I must as well do it here.

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Old 2006-04-10, 05:44   Link #257
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Funny thing. Archer class and only 1 arrow fired! The rest were melee attacks!
Actually, he did another "ranged" attack, but not with bow and arrows. Remember the scene at the roof? Where Berserker got stuck in that hole? Archer threw his 2 swords (followed by imaging another pair of it and throwing them as well) which resulted in a 4-blade attack, and thats considered a ranged attack.

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Well, I'm just going add my last response on the subject so I must as well do it here.

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Yes, pretty much. I dont remember him saying that he wants to stop the Holy Grail War's endless cycle, but the current war, yes. He can prevent other people (*evil masters*, so to speak) from attaining the Holy Grail if he was the winner of the particular war.

However:
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Old 2006-04-10, 06:24   Link #258
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Yes, pretty much. I dont remember him saying that he wants to stop the Holy Grail War's endless cycle, but the current war, yes. He can prevent other people (*evil masters*, so to speak) from attaining the Holy Grail if he was the winner of the particular war.

However:
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Wow, that just...sucks totally. I smell more tragedy on the horizon because becoming a servant is worse than death.
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Old 2006-04-10, 06:50   Link #259
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I don't think the five deaths of Berserker were done in UBW alone.

IMO, there was one with the arrow, one with the four-blades attack, one with the 2 blades looking like angel wings.

And then, Archer mentioned something about putting 2 more blades in Berserker's chest (just before activating UBW and then, he may have done it in UBW) which would amount to 5.

I'm maybe wrong but that's the most logical thing I figured out.
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Old 2006-04-10, 07:15   Link #260
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Actually, he did another "ranged" attack, but not with bow and arrows. Remember the scene at the roof? Where Berserker got stuck in that hole? Archer threw his 2 swords (followed by imaging another pair of it and throwing them as well) which resulted in a 4-blade attack, and thats considered a ranged attack.

I think I should said it in another way. Most of his attacks were the usage of swords. In the whole series those twin swords was his main weapon. I mean... you look at the word archer and you think "Ah! Bow and arrow".
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