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Old 2011-02-19, 23:44   Link #1301
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Definitely agree with those changes... as for the famitsu link, probably don't need to link the article itself, as in the future it'll probably become outdated... I vote for just the pictures (hosted externally) so that people have something to see when they go into the thread.

As for voice acting... definitely if we say people like Asakawa Yuu (list some popular work she's done) and Ueda Kana (list here too) are in it, that should get some people who are into voice actresses/anime into it as well.
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Old 2011-02-20, 01:26   Link #1302
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Amalgamation of everything said so far, plus some additions

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A remastered VN: Ever17, from the creators of 999 and Myself;Yourself
(Need a more poll-ish title for a poll topic)

Poll canditate
Would you like to see an Aksys localization of Ever17?
*Yes
*No
*Not fussed, either way

Body candidate
One of the classics by Uchikoshi (999) and his colleage Nakazawa (Myself;Yourself) is getting a remake: 5pb is set to revamp Ever17, a story about 6 people trapped in a collapsing underwater theme park, and their fight to save their lives and to bring down the powers behind the 'accident'.

Fans can expect to see new features such as:
* New scenarios and endings
* Redesigned backgrounds
* 3-D animated characters
* New CGs and clothing designs

For the newcomers, Ever17 has been consistently voted by many Visual Novel fans as the greatest VN of all time, both in Japan and in the West. Almost all who played it have been blown away by the story, which is of a similar style to 999, but but with even more twists. Fans frequently argue over whether Ever17 or 999 is better.

Ever17 has earned rank #3 out of all VNs on vndb.org, with an average score of 9.05/10

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voted as one of the best in the infinity series as well as an ADV in general.
explain (with as much few details as possible) why it's considered so great
explain its reputation
mention the general positive reaction to the Infinity series in general, and how all of the Infinity series has been popular.
why we're so interested in this version, and why it's in their interests to localize it.
Screenshots
Voice actors, e.g. Asakawa Yuu (list works), Ueda Kana (list)

The teaser site is at http://5pb.jp/games/ever17/. Stay tuned for updates!

So what do you guys think? Existing E17 fans, would you buy the remake? Newcomers, would you be interested in playing this VN if it were available in English?
Hmm... Is this too much like an advertisement? I know if I were to read something like this (without prior exposure to the game), I'd take the claims with a grain of salt.

I have an ImageShack account; will upload screenshots to it. Which ones should we take? I vote for one of Tsugumi in action ('cause she looks awesome), and either Sora or You (for the bishoujo fans). The new LeMU corridor looks great, but 3D Sara's face looks... blank. :-/ Should we throw in a bus advert for good measure? I later found out that it's common practice for games in Japan, but as a gaijin, I was floored when I first saw it.
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Old 2011-02-20, 02:07   Link #1303
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Well...if they're going to add something new into the game and answer some of the mystery left then I would definitely buy it

....it's too bad that it's for X360 though.
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Old 2011-02-20, 04:37   Link #1304
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Ever17 has earned rank #3 out of all VNs on vndb.org, with an average score of 9.05/10
It was ranked 1# for some time (as did Fate/Stay Night) - that stuff is changing often. I would suggest something like "constantly holding its place in top3 on vndb.com".
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Old 2011-02-20, 08:47   Link #1305
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Amalgamation of everything said so far, plus some additions



Hmm... Is this too much like an advertisement? I know if I were to read something like this (without prior exposure to the game), I'd take the claims with a grain of salt.

I have an ImageShack account; will upload screenshots to it. Which ones should we take? I vote for one of Tsugumi in action ('cause she looks awesome), and either Sora or You (for the bishoujo fans). The new LeMU corridor looks great, but 3D Sara's face looks... blank. :-/ Should we throw in a bus advert for good measure? I later found out that it's common practice for games in Japan, but as a gaijin, I was floored when I first saw it.
Hmm... it does sound a bit ad-like, you're right... perhaps we need more facts or statistics? Mention the series' devoted fanbase, possibly, or how much gameplay time this game has (it's almost twice as long as 999), the sheer number of endings, two protagonists, the number of paths, its release history, stuff like that.

I vote for the Tsugumi image, the You image, and the bird's-eye-view of LeMU. Bus advert sounds like a great idea.

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Old 2011-02-20, 09:18   Link #1306
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I would suggest something like "constantly holding its place in top3 on vndb.com".
I like the sound of that better as well.

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Title candidate
Ever17: A remastered VN from the creators of 999 and Myself;Yourself
(Need a more poll-ish title for a poll topic)

Poll candidate
Would you like to see an Aksys localization of Ever17?
*Yes
*No
*Not fussed, either way

Body candidate
One of the classics by Uchikoshi (999) and his colleague Nakazawa (Myself;Yourself) is getting a remake: 5pb is set to revamp Ever17, a story about 6 people trapped in a collapsing underwater theme park, and their fight to save their lives and to bring down the powers behind the 'accident.'

Fans can expect to see new features such as:
* New scenarios and endings
* Redesigned backgrounds
* 3-D animated characters
* New CGs and clothing designs

For the newcomers, Ever17 has been consistently voted by many Visual Novel fans as the greatest VN of all time, both in Japan and in the West. Almost all who played it have been blown away by the story, which is of a similar style to 999, but but with even more twists. Fans frequently argue over whether Ever17 or 999 is better.

Ever17 has constantly held its place in the Top 3 on vndb.org, with a current average score of 9.05/10





The teaser site is at http://5pb.jp/games/ever17/. Stay tuned for updates!

So what do you guys think? Existing E17 fans, would you buy the remake? Newcomers, would you be interested in playing this VN if it were available in English?
Made a few suggested changes here and there.

As for it sounding advertisy... I feel that's a good thing. We are trying to sell the game after all, not only to users, but to the Aksys people reading as well.

And for the pictures, you should probably resize them to 400px width when you rehost them, so that they fit comfortably on the Aksys boards.

I too put up a vote for those 3 pictures.

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Voice actors, e.g. Asakawa Yuu (list works), Ueda Kana (list)
I suppose we can pick and choose from ANN. Yuu and Kana. Anyone got any favorites?
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Old 2011-02-20, 09:26   Link #1307
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Soichiro Hoshi? I know I may be biased because he's my favorite voice actor, but he's done some famous stuff (like Higurashi and Gundam Seed)
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Old 2011-02-20, 11:23   Link #1308
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I heard that this is an open ended game that never actually "ends" is this true or just trolling?
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Old 2011-02-20, 11:28   Link #1309
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I heard that this is an open ended game that never actually "ends" is this true or just trolling?
That would be Remember11. Ever17 is the exact opposite of that.
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Old 2011-02-20, 11:29   Link #1310
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Oh, alright thanks.
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Old 2011-02-20, 14:53   Link #1311
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That would be Remember11. Ever17 is the exact opposite of that.
Is that a big spoiler for Remember11?
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Old 2011-02-20, 15:39   Link #1312
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Other than the link itself and the list of new features, it doesn't mention clearly to me that it's a new version for Xbox360 of the old Ever17. In fact, it doesn't really mention the 360 at all.

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Soichiro Hoshi? I know I may be biased because he's my favorite voice actor, but he's done some famous stuff (like Higurashi and Gundam Seed)
I vote yes on that as well. Try to lure the fangirls in.
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Old 2011-02-20, 16:13   Link #1313
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Soichiro Hoshi? I know I may be biased because he's my favorite voice actor, but he's done some famous stuff (like Higurashi and Gundam Seed)
Oh yes! He is one of my favorites too.

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Fans frequently argue over whether Ever17 or 999 is better
Now that I think about it, I dont like this. Maybe Im biased because I think Ever17>>>999 ;p but I would just say that Ever17 is spiritual father to 999, but with no puzzles and more story and just leave it at that.
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Old 2011-02-20, 18:26   Link #1314
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The problem with 999 is that it stole some things from Ever17, and as a result, Ever17 became much more predictable to people who read 999 first. If one were to read Ever17 first and 999 second, the same decrease in enjoyment would apply to 999 (I personally thought some of the twists were lame because I'd seen them before in Ever17).
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Old 2011-02-21, 04:55   Link #1315
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Is that a big spoiler for Remember11?
Not at all, since that line told me nothing about the story!
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Old 2011-02-21, 04:56   Link #1316
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Title candidate
Ever17: A remastered VN from the creators of 999 and Myself;Yourself
(Need a more poll-ish title for a poll topic)

Poll candidate
Would you like to see an Aksys localization of Ever17?
  • Yes
  • No
  • Not fussed, either way

Body candidate
One of the classics by Uchikoshi (999) and his colleague Nakazawa (Myself;Yourself) is getting a remake for the XBox 360: 5pb is set to revamp Ever17, a story about 6 people trapped in a collapsing underwater theme park, and their fight to save their lives and to bring down the powers behind the 'accident.'



Fans can expect to see new features such as:
  • New scenarios and endings
  • Redesigned backgrounds
  • 3-D animated characters
  • New CGs and clothing designs

For the newcomers, Ever17 is the spiritual predecessor of 999, and has been consistently voted by many both Japanese and Western fans as the greatest visual novel of all time. Almost all who played it have been blown away by the story, which is of a similar style to 999 (albeit without the strong puzzle component), but with even more twists and an intricate storyline that's almost twice the length of 999's.



Ever17 has a devoted fanbase, allowing it to constantly hold its place in the Top 3 on vndb.org, despite being nearly 10 years old. It currently has an average score of 9.05/10.

The teaser site is at http://5pb.jp/games/ever17/. Stay tuned for updates!



So what do you guys think? Existing E17 fans, would you buy the remake? Newcomers, would you be interested in playing this VN if it were available in English? If not, which aspects of the game are holding you back?

(Images from Famitsu)



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*more facts or statistics
  • its release history

*explain (with as much few details as possible) why it's considered so great; its reputation
  • the sheer number of endings/the number of paths?
  • two protagonists?

*About the Infinity series in general
  • voted as one of the best in the infinity series as well as an ADV in general.
  • mention the general positive reaction to the Infinity series in general, and how all of the Infinity series has been popular.

*Image captions

*Voice actors, e.g. Asakawa Yuu (list), Ueda Kana (list), Soichiro Hoshi (Higurashi, Gundam Seed)

*why we're so interested in this version, and why it's in their interests to localize it.

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I'm not familiar with seiyuu culture; could someone else write that part?


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The problem with 999 is that it stole some things from Ever17, and as a result, Ever17 became much more predictable to people who read 999 first. If one were to read Ever17 first and 999 second, the same decrease in enjoyment would apply to 999 (I personally thought some of the twists were lame because I'd seen them before in Ever17).
Mmm... that would be an issue. Replacing "collapsing underwater theme park" with "sinking cruise ship" could make the opening paragraph sound like a spiel for 999... What does E17 have, that 999 does not? (I haven't played 999 myself)
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Old 2011-02-21, 05:37   Link #1317
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This is looking great. Some info about the seiyuus and Id say its done.
Maybe something like: contrary to 999, Ever17 is fully voiced by famous seiyuus and singers including: Asakawa Yuu (Sakaki in Azumanga Daioh, Rider in Fate/Stay Night), Ueda Kana (Toosaka Rin in Fate/Stay Night, Fukuzawa Yumi in Maria-sama ga Miteru) and Hoshi Souichirou (Kira Yamato in Gundam SEED, Maebara Keiichi in Higurashi no Naku Koro ni).

Oh and Ever17 is easily 3 times longer than 999 (999 is around 20 hours, while Ever17 is around 60).
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Old 2011-02-21, 10:10   Link #1318
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So what do you guys think? Existing E17 fans, would you buy the remake? Newcomers, would you be interested in playing this VN if it were available in English? If not, which aspects of the game are holding you back?
Newcomer here. I might buy it if it gets decent reviews since i've been planning to read a new VN anyway.
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Old 2011-02-21, 17:05   Link #1319
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I played Ever17 some years ago, it was one of my first VNs and I'm also interested in how 5pb. will do the remake.

I've some suggestions to make to the request:

1. Put the new logo in the body.


2. Remove the "Not fussed, either way". It's better to keep it as a simple yes and no, and not having an ambiguous answer that Aksys won't be looking. And most if not all votes that would vote for that answer will go to "Yes".
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Old 2011-02-21, 17:55   Link #1320
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I played Ever17 some years ago, it was one of my first VNs and I'm also interested in how 5pb. will do the remake.

I've some suggestions to make to the request:

1. Put the new logo in the body.


2. Remove the "Not fussed, either way". It's better to keep it as a simple yes and no, and not having an ambiguous answer that Aksys won't be looking. And most if not all votes that would vote for that answer will go to "Yes".
I agree here.

**Release history candidate**

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Ever17 was originally released on the PS2 and Dreamcast in Japan in 2002, then was later ported onto the PC in 2003 as "Ever17- Premium Edition". It was translated and released into English in 2005 by the now defunct Hirameki International. The game has been ported onto several other consoles in Japan, but this is the first time it's receiving a remake.
**Infinity series candidate**

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Ever17 is part of the well reknowned Infinity series. Lauded for their interesting plots and seamless blending of science fiction with mystery and suspense along with colorful casts and unique set ups, the Infinity series is one of the most popular Visual Novel series of all time, both in Japan and in English speaking circles. Ever17 is the most popular in this series, heavily acclaimed for its fascinating characters and stunning twists, featuring a plot so complicated that it keeps you guessing until the very end.

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