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Old 2009-09-18, 16:53   Link #9881
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Can we agree that it's distasteful to draw pre pubescent's in a sexualized manner?
I fully agree on this one.

About how to differnecy a drawed 17 year of a 18 year, there only one way: their situation. For example there's littel chance than a 1st year will be 18 but the probability are much higher if she is at few day to graduate highschool.

BTW, is BeanBag only following the ''genderbend related'' threads?
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Old 2009-09-18, 16:56   Link #9882
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About how to differnecy a drawed 17 year of a 18 year, there only one way: their situation.
Well that doesn't really have anything to do with their specific character design.
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Old 2009-09-18, 16:57   Link #9883
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Can we agree that it's distasteful to draw pre pubescent's in a sexualized manner?
...This really depends, honestly.

I don't find it that tasteful but then again, it's just a drawing. People are overreacting a bit.

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About how to differnecy a drawed 17 year of a 18 year, there only one way: their situation. For example there's littel chance than a 1st year will be 18 but the probability are much higher if she is at few day to graduate highschool.
I CANT LOOK AT THIS DRAWING, ITS NOT 18.


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Old 2009-09-18, 17:09   Link #9884
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I CANT LOOK AT THIS DRAWING, ITS NOT 18.


...Do you realize how you sound when you say that?
I am sorry if you misunderstanded me or than I didn't explaim me correctly.

I am not discuting the correctness of looking at a ecchi/hentai pic of girl than could be anywhere betweem 15 and 20 or if it'S correct or not because it's a drawing , what I am saying is than it's impossible to know their supposed age only by the character design, nothing more.
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Old 2009-09-18, 17:14   Link #9885
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Can we please get off this topic? It's not going anywhere, and this isn't a thread for discussing moral issues regarding underage girls in provocative outfits.
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Old 2009-09-18, 17:15   Link #9886
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...This really depends, honestly.

I don't find it that tasteful but then again, it's just a drawing. People are overreacting a bit.
There are allot of things I find distasteful. Like scatological works.

Doesn't mean It's any of my buisness if people wanna draw that stuff.

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this isn't a thread for discussing moral issues regarding underage girls in provocative outfits.
Correct. This is a thread regarding posting of images of underage girls in provocative outfits!

...wait.


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Old 2009-09-18, 17:24   Link #9887
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Hey look! Kyon's between Haruhi's legs!

And that was my random outburst of the whatever.
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Old 2009-09-18, 17:39   Link #9888
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Kyon's definitely checking out her butt....again.

I feel awkward just looking at that xD
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Old 2009-09-18, 17:45   Link #9889
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I think they all are, to be honest. Except Koizumi, his eyes are closed.
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Old 2009-09-18, 17:51   Link #9890
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Kaisos - I strongly disagree with you on this issue. There should be, in my view, a character age cut-off point for where the sexulization of a character is acceptable. I would agree that most of the teenage years are a matter of personal preference, but once you're into explicitly pre-teen characters, you're into an area where this sexualization shouldn't be going on. It really is bordering on pedophilia at a pre-teen point... at the point of Kyon's little sister.

Obviously I'm not a prude, or I would not have made the comments I did about Rambo's most recent Haruhi pics. But Haruhi is at least a teenager, whereas Kyon's sister is a pre-teen. You don't have to be a prude to recognize that pre-teen characters shouldn't be sexualized, imo.

Does pre-teen sexual lolicon exist in anime? Sure it does... and it's one of the things that holds anime back from being more popular, imo. This is very sketchy stuff for most people, Kaisos, and for good reason. Sexualizing legal (in many places) teenagers is one thing... pre-teens (illegal pretty much everywhere) is a bit worse than that.

While it does exist, it's not so prevalent that a person who dislikes it can't be an anime fan. I dislike it when Shaft goes too far with being Shaft, but I still like Bakemonogatari.


I expect to take a rep status hit for this, but it's worth it, I feel. It's worth it to stand up against something that I think is really holding anime back badly.
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Old 2009-09-18, 17:53   Link #9891
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I think they all are, to be honest. Except Koizumi, his eyes are closed.
Well, that's what he uses his esper powers for, whatever they are.

They grant him the ability to discreetly check out any girl's ass.

(Oh god I just clicked the preview button and there was a serious and useful post that will now be followed by this)
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Old 2009-09-18, 18:01   Link #9892
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And... I can't give rep points to either of you... what a shame.
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Old 2009-09-18, 18:09   Link #9893
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I think they all are, to be honest. Except Koizumi, his eyes are closed.
It could be her back insted of her ass but it's something catiching their attention ( and given Mikuru's expression, maybe not in a good way )
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Old 2009-09-18, 18:16   Link #9894
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It could be her back insted of her ass but it's something catiching their attention ( and given Mikuru's expression, maybe not in a good way )
My guess is that Koizumi was staring at Haruhi's ass, using said esper powers.

Those esper powers malfunctioned (possibly due to Haruhi's ass just being too great), and this photo was taken in the split second before Haruhi realized her back was on fire. The other four just reacted first.
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Old 2009-09-18, 18:19   Link #9895
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And of course, Kyon gets blamed for it. Somehow.
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Old 2009-09-18, 18:34   Link #9896
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Well obviously. It'll be like "Kyon! Why didn't you tell me my back was on fire? Penalty! You have to pay for my medical bill."
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Old 2009-09-18, 18:41   Link #9897
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Was actually referring to something like this:
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"Why did you light me on fire?! Pervert, your gaze probably did this to me!"

How is that even possible?
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Old 2009-09-18, 18:59   Link #9898
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LINES. ON A PIECE. OF PAPER.

I'm all about freedom of speech and expression, so there's no way we're going to agree on this. Just let people draw what they want to draw, it is no way harmful to real people and if a drawing can offend you that much, well, uh, I can't understand you at all then.

...And loli doesn't have to mean underage, either. It's all in the context.

Would you ban a sexualized drawing of a character who looks like a pre-teen but has been previously established not to be? Where is the line drawn?

This kind of obscurity is why politicians can't make proper laws out of it and why there's really no point in discussing this. (Also because artistic depictions don't harm real children.)

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Well, that's what he uses his esper powers for, whatever they are.

They grant him the ability to discreetly check out any girl's ass.
I want these powers.

...Anyone have any HaruhiXKoizumi images, actually?

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Was actually referring to something like this:
Hilarious. Must use somehow...
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Old 2009-09-18, 19:08   Link #9899
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Now that I think of it, have there been any HaruhiXItsuki images? I can't recall any.
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I'm sure there's something...
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