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Old 2009-09-13, 07:18   Link #1261
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Tornadium - That's a very good, well-reasoned reply.
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In the interest of full disclosure, I'm going to say that at this time I'm a KyonYuki shipper. So... I'm not entirely unbiased here. Like many other KyonYuki shippers, though, I'll admit that my preference goes against the current for this anime franchise, particularly its fandom. I don't expect to "win" this any more than I expected my Ryoga/Akane preference in the Ranma 1/2 anime to emerge victorious.
Heh, Well there really is no win or lose here. Both are great. I personally would like Haruhi x Kyon more than Anything (Because that's what strikes me as being prominent) but it's not like i'd be upset with somthing else. That's just my reasoning and interpretation.

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All I'll say is that a lot of the Kyon/Haruhi relationship moments strike me as possibly being close platonic friendship moments. They tend to be viewed through a romantic lens, but... friendship alone can explain most of them, I think. Just my opinion.

Anyway... I'm going to let the shipping debate go for now, because this really isn't the thread for it, lol.
Heh True,

For the most part everything in Haruhi could be explained through friendship. I guess it's just down to the individual interpretation of the fanbase. I think the thing which puts Haruhi and Kyon into the romantic view point is the kiss from the very first book. Without that it would be much easier to dismiss it as just friendship, The kiss in my opinion signifies their relationship but again that's just me.
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Old 2009-09-13, 13:07   Link #1262
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Does a VN based on Haruhi exist?
I recently bumped into a video on youtube that looked like an opening for a VN.
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Old 2009-09-13, 13:21   Link #1263
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There are a few Haruhi VNs. (At least, that's what I'm assuming the various video games are.) However, you might have ended up seeing the fake OP for the last Haruhi-chan episode.
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... well at least it's consistent...
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Old 2009-09-13, 13:38   Link #1264
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Yeah, right, that was the fake OP.
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Old 2009-09-13, 15:46   Link #1265
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Does a VN based on Haruhi exist?
I recently bumped into a video on youtube that looked like an opening for a VN.
As far as i know there are no VNs for Haruhi yet.
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Old 2009-09-13, 16:20   Link #1266
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There are some games that I think play like visual novels, but none that are actually visual novels.
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Old 2009-09-14, 07:31   Link #1267
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As far as i know there are no VNs for Haruhi yet.
There are...

There's one for the PSP I think.
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Old 2009-09-14, 12:11   Link #1268
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There are...

There's one for the PSP I think.
Really?

Must have missed that one.
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Old 2009-09-14, 20:17   Link #1269
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As far as i know there are no VNs for Haruhi yet.
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There are some games that I think play like visual novels, but none that are actually visual novels.
What are you two on?

There are quite a few Haruhi games, most of which I'd consider visual novels. Most of them have some -actual- gameplay, however, so I'd consider the PSP and DS games to be the most visual novels out of the visual novels.
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Old 2009-09-16, 14:58   Link #1270
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ok im VERY confused about this series. I was going to check it out on DVD because i noticed it was out, but i went online to see if there were other seasons for fansub as well and then the confusion began... the american dvd release i think is only about 14 episodes. Then i see fansubs for something 'new' but im not clear on if its season 2 or something i see refered to as a re-airing with added episodes?

i really dont understand. Wiki doesn't really help.. how does this series break down? whats the american release and whats this 2009 release, and whats season 2? And what the hell is all this stuff about it not even being aired in the right order?? this thing seems like a giant mess

if i goto mazui they list it very oddly
http://mazuisubs.com/?torrents

from episode 8-24.. why the heck is it only numbered from 8-24? did they skip the first 7? they dont have forums i can ask about

but if i look here they only list episodes 1-14..
http://www.animesuki.com/series.php/1448.html

isn't that the original run? and why is the mazui stuff listed as 1-14 there.. Im very confused, i just want to know what i should d.load to see the whole thing, and what the heck the american dvd release is'

hopefully someone can clarify this because the series looks kinda interesting but im starting to wonder if its even worth the headache this screwed up release is giving me. some sites list it as 28 episodes total, others dont, i dont know whats going on
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Old 2009-09-16, 15:10   Link #1271
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Season 1 was rerun in Japan. New epsiodes were shown in the correct order during the rerun. The new episodes are the 2009 episodes 1-14. Mazui numbered them as they were shown and they were renumbered on Animesuki to correspond to the 2009 numbering.

2009 1 = episode 8
2009 2 = episode 12
2009 3 = episode 13
2009 4 = episode 14
2009 5 = episode 15
2009 6 = episode 16
2009 7 = episode 17
2009 8 = episode 18
2009 9 = episode 19
2009 10 = episode 20
2009 11= episode 21
2009 12 = episode 22
2009 13 = episode 23
2009 14 = episode 24

episodes 1-7, 9-11, and 25-28 are currently on DVD
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Old 2009-09-16, 15:33   Link #1272
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Season 1 was rerun in Japan. New epsiodes were shown in the correct order during the rerun. The new episodes are the 2009 episodes 1-14. Mazui numbered them as they were shown and they were renumbered on Animesuki to correspond to the 2009 numbering.

2009 1 = episode 8
2009 2 = episode 12
2009 3 = episode 13
2009 4 = episode 14
2009 5 = episode 15
2009 6 = episode 16
2009 7 = episode 17
2009 8 = episode 18
2009 9 = episode 19
2009 10 = episode 20
2009 11= episode 21
2009 12 = episode 22
2009 13 = episode 23
2009 14 = episode 24

episodes 1-7, 9-11, and 25-28 are currently on DVD
thanks a lot.. yowza thats kinda confusing. so let me get this straight

the 2009 episodes were just spliced in with a re-airing of the original 14 episodes, correct?

so if thats right.. the easiest way would be to just d.load the mazui ones since theyre numbered where they should apear.. and then either get the season 1 d.loaded and splice them in or get the dvds and stop and watch the season 2 mixed in right?

If i understand this properly then this should be, from season 1 (AKA american dvd release) with season 2 mixed in the proper order

01 season 1 [1]
02 season 1 [2]
03 season 1 [3]
04 season 1 [4]
05 season 1 [5]
06 season 1 [6]
07 season 1 [7]
08 season 2 (1)
09 season 1 [8]
10 season 1 [9]
11 season 1 [10]
12 season 2 (2)
13 season 2 (3)
14 season 2 (4)
15 season 2 (5)
16 season 2 (6)
17 season 2 (7)
18 season 2 (8)
19 season 2 (9)
20 season 2 (10)
21 season 2 (11)
22 season 2 (12)
23 season 2 (13)
24 season 2 (14)
25 season 1 [11]
26 season 1 [12]
27 season 1 [13]
28 season 1 [14]

is that correct?

looking for some clarification before i get going on it. honestly i was going to get the dvds but if i understand this right with the screwed up way this was released it would be far easier to just d.load the first season and splice the mazui eps in

why did they do this? if the original had the chronological real ending, then why even bother with a second season? is the whole 2nd season just throw away filler? i dont think ive ever seen a series just mix up episodes like that with a 2nd season

tnx for the info

*EDIT* looking at the list over on bakabt for season 1, its actually numbered 0-13.. how does that change my numbering above, is zero just considered 01?
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Old 2009-09-16, 15:47   Link #1273
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It's probably better to view the 2009 season as the completed version of the 2006 season now aired in chronological order. This version adds in the stories from the novels that take place chronologically during the episodes that originally aired in 2006, which aired the episodes anachronically.

So it's not really two seasons in the sense that the 2006 season takes place before the 2009 season. It's more along the lines of two different seasons of the same series.

Also, I guess we should know what order the 2006 episodes you have are in. Broadcast, DVD, or Chronological?
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Old 2009-09-16, 15:55   Link #1274
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0 is actually 11...or 25 now. It is the episode that should be reairing this week.
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Nearly correct: DVD order still placed episode 00 at the beginning. 2009 places it where it was suppose to go...or at least it should...we'll find out tomorrow.

Corrected 2006 order:

The.Melancholy.of.Haruhi.Suzumiya.01.-.The.Melancholy.of.Haruhi.Suzumiya.I
The.Melancholy.of.Haruhi.Suzumiya.02.-.The.Melancholy.of.Haruhi.Suzumiya.II
The.Melancholy.of.Haruhi.Suzumiya.03.-.The.Melancholy.of.Haruhi.Suzumiya.III
The.Melancholy.of.Haruhi.Suzumiya.04.-.The.Melancholy.of.Haruhi.Suzumiya.IV
The.Melancholy.of.Haruhi.Suzumiya.05.-.The.Melancholy.of.Haruhi.Suzumiya.V
The.Melancholy.of.Haruhi.Suzumiya.06.-.The.Melancholy.of.Haruhi.Suzumiya.VI
The.Melancholy.of.Haruhi.Suzumiya.07.-.The.Boredom.of.Haruhi.Suzumiya
The.Melancholy.of.Haruhi.Suzumiya.08.-.Mysterique.Sign
The.Melancholy.of.Haruhi.Suzumiya.09.-.Remote.Island.Syndrome.Part.One
The.Melancholy.of.Haruhi.Suzumiya.10.-.Remote.Island.Syndrome.Part.Two

The.Melancholy.of.Haruhi.Suzumiya.00.-.The.Adventures.of.Mikuru.Asahina.Episode.00

The.Melancholy.of.Haruhi.Suzumiya.11.-.Live.Alive
The.Melancholy.of.Haruhi.Suzumiya.12.-.The.Day.of.Sagittarius
The.Melancholy.of.Haruhi.Suzumiya.13.-.Someday.in.the.Rain


Corrected for 2009 included:

01 (01).-.The.Melancholy.of.Haruhi.Suzumiya.I.
02 (02).-.The.Melancholy.of.Haruhi.Suzumiya.II.
03 (03).-.The.Melancholy.of.Haruhi.Suzumiya.III.
04 (04).-.The.Melancholy.of.Haruhi.Suzumiya.IV.
05 (05).-.The.Melancholy.of.Haruhi.Suzumiya.V.
06 (06).-.The.Melancholy.of.Haruhi.Suzumiya.VI.
07 (07).-.The.Boredom.of.Haruhi.Suzumiya.

08 season 2 (1) Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody

09 (08).-.Mysterique.Sign.
10 (09).-.Remote.Island.Syndrome.Part.One.
11 (10).-.Remote.Island.Syndrome.Part.Two.

12 season 2 (2) Endless Eight
13 season 2 (3) Endless Eight
14 season 2 (4) Endless Eight
15 season 2 (5) Endless Eight
16 season 2 (6) Endless Eight
17 season 2 (7) Endless Eight
18 season 2 (8) Endless Eight
19 season 2 (9) Endless Eight
20 season 2 (10) The.Sigh.of.Haruhi.Suzumiya.I
21 season 2 (11) The.Sigh.of.Haruhi.Suzumiya.II
22 season 2 (12) The.Sigh.of.Haruhi.Suzumiya.III
23 season 2 (13) The.Sigh.of.Haruhi.Suzumiya.IV
24 season 2 (14) The.Sigh.of.Haruhi.Suzumiya.V

25 (00).-.The.Adventures.of.Mikuru.Asahina.Episode.00.
26 (11).-.Live.Alive.
27 (12).-.The.Day.of.Sagittarius.
28 (13).-.Someday.in.the.Rain.
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Old 2009-09-16, 22:22   Link #1276
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Thought this might help.
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Old 2009-09-16, 23:44   Link #1277
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tnx so much itherko that clarifies it for me. PHEW what a convoluded mess. I generally like supporting releases stateside but in this case im just d.loading the whole shebang because its so mixed up. If they release a complete compilation down the road ill snag that. Looks like my message with the link to the first season got deleted, didn't think about that, sorry. But at least you got the episode numbers of the filename for the list before that.

i can figure it out from that thanks again
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Old 2009-09-17, 10:58   Link #1278
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To make this simple.

This was a rerun to put everything in order Chronologically before they proceed.
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Old 2009-09-20, 09:40   Link #1279
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Again, please remember the purpose of this thread. From the opening post...
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Old 2009-09-20, 19:59   Link #1280
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Okay I was doing some reading around and I found something that seem interesting and I was wondering if you can help me find this? I can't find anything this.


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""In the Suzumiya Haruhi novels Itsuki claims he acts Ambiguously Gay and seems to almost be flirting with Kyon because he thinks that if he didn't act that way on his own, Haruhi would unconsciously use her power to make him. Think about that for a minute.
  • In Haruhi-Chan, her movie script in episode 9 is centered around a Meidotournament, with Kyon and Itsuki winning and becoming a couple, which causes Mikuru to become confused and stop thinking.""
I found this here

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/YaoiFangirl
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