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Old 2009-06-04, 16:22   Link #201
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No, because now Mikuru has gone back to the future, so there's only one Mikuru. Kinda.
But presumably there would still be instances when the time travelers would have to take an action that the Mikuru in the present couldn't know about, so they'd send another, older version of Mikuru back in time...
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Old 2009-06-04, 16:25   Link #202
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But presumably there would still be instances when the time travelers would have to take an action that the Mikuru in the present couldn't know about, so they'd send another, older version of Mikuru back in time...
How? They'd have to contact her and I'm pretty sure there's rules against going into the future unless they know that they went into the future.

Why not just send back someone else?
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Old 2009-06-04, 16:39   Link #203
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This would assume Mikuru(small) returns to her own present after graduation, and Mikuru(BIG) takes on the role of a teacher/advisor for the SOS-dan in Haruhi's third year.

Thus Mikuru wouldn't have seen Kyon in a long time because she went back to the future, but Kyon would still be seeing Mikuru, but the older (hotter) version. Having Haruhi still use Mikuru is this case might be even weirder since Haruhi may or may not know that this is still Mikuru, and this would be even more a senior/elder since she would be classified as a teacher.

The question is...who would come back to give Mikuru(BIG) or Kyon instructions during that third year if Mikuru(BIG) no longer has a memory of these events because she wasn't there when she was Mikuru(small)?

(Actually, thinking about it...this is suppose to be based on how the author met his wife in high school. We (I guess) don't know anything about his wife really. What's to say that she isn't older than him? Or was a teacher?)
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Old 2009-06-04, 16:42   Link #204
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The question is...who would come back to give Mikuru(BIG) or Kyon instructions during that third year if Mikuru(BIG) no longer has a memory of these events because she wasn't there when she was Mikuru(small)?
Fujiwara (BIG), of course.
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Old 2009-06-04, 17:37   Link #205
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How? They'd have to contact her and I'm pretty sure there's rules against going into the future unless they know that they went into the future.

Why not just send back someone else?
What, and miss out on the delicious, delicious irony in having Mikuru(big) being knocked out and Mikuru(MILF) showing up to tell Kyon something that he needs to remember not to tell Mikuru(big), only to be knocked unconscious as she leaves and then Mikura(obaachan) waddles up with her walker and tells Kyon something else he needs to remember not to tell either of the other Mikurus...?
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Old 2009-06-04, 17:46   Link #206
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What, and miss out on the delicious, delicious irony in having Mikuru(big) being knocked out and Mikuru(MILF) showing up to tell Kyon something that he needs to remember not to tell Mikuru(big), only to be knocked unconscious as she leaves and then Mikura(obaachan) waddles up with her walker and tells Kyon something else he needs to remember not to tell either of the other Mikurus...?
Well, Haruhi IS a comedy series... >_>
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Old 2009-06-04, 19:02   Link #207
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only to be knocked unconscious as she leaves and then Mikura(obaachan) waddles up with her walker and tells Kyon something else he needs to remember not to tell either of the other Mikurus...?
Now that's just taking things too far. Still... the thought of that is priceless.
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Old 2009-06-04, 19:18   Link #208
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Just stopping at Mikuru(MILF) would be making some sort of statement. Basically...who's the father of this woman's child(ren)? Is it Kyon? Is she coming back to setup the situation so Kyon and Mikuru(BIG) have some alone time?
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Old 2009-06-04, 19:21   Link #209
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Just stopping at Mikuru(MILF) would be making some sort of statement. Basically...who's the father of this woman's child(ren)? Is it Kyon? Is she coming back to setup the situation so Kyon and Mikuru(BIG) have some alone time?
Kinda awkward, as Mikuru (BIG) has like 8-10 years on him easily...
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Old 2009-06-04, 19:27   Link #210
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That would make her 25 years old or so. Mikuru(MILF) would have some 20-30 years on him at least if things follow Key logic. Slightly awkward, but not outside of reason.

That is assuming that Mikuru(small) is a normally aging human. She could be some form of quick aging clone or something (which would be another reason to not give her age, since she might actually only be three years old or something like that...though the traditionals "women don't talk about their age" is good enough...since she's playful on that question.)
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Old 2009-06-04, 19:35   Link #211
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she might actually only be three years old or something like that
Please leave the "possibly only three years old" thing to Nagato. I'd rather not think of Kyon as a pedo
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Old 2009-06-04, 19:37   Link #212
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Please leave the "possibly only three years old" thing to Nagato. I'd rather not think of Kyon as a pedo
(What's more, Kimidori might be even younger.)

For that matter, Kyon IS a pedo, as we will discover if and when any REAL second season emerges, heh.
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Old 2009-06-04, 19:43   Link #213
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For that matter, Kyon IS a pedo, as we will discover if and when any REAL second season emerges, heh.
You leave her out of this
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Old 2009-06-04, 21:04   Link #214
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[MOD NOTE: This post and resulting conversation thread are carried over from another thread.]

Oh, yeah, good idea (sorry for the off-topic).

So, by "Second Season" we are talking about the "Second First Season" or the "Real Second Season (TBA)"?

If the latter, I guess how many episodes will have. 14 or 28? I don't know if 4 novels (assuming that the new one will stop on the volume 6) are enough to 28 episodes, but 14 are too few. Well, maybe the Volume 11 wouldn't be as delayed as Volume 10.

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Vol. 8 needs 4 episodes, Vol. 7 needs 7 episodes, and Vol. 9 needs about 3 or 4, probably 3. There's a LOT of internal monologue they could cut through.

So, heh, about 14 episodes for the rest of the novels released so far.

Speaking of new novel content... isn't the July Sneaker out soon?
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14 is probably a safe bet. Even if Volume 11 is released by then, I don't think there will be enough material for 28 episodes if they decided to keep it a mostly straight adaptation.

*e* I'm gonna have to disagree that Intrigues needs seven episodes, unless you're adding Melancholy of Mikuru into it.
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Old 2009-06-04, 21:12   Link #217
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14 is probably a safe bet. Even if Volume 11 is released by then, I don't think there will be enough material for 28 episodes if they decided to keep it a mostly straight adaptation.
That'd be a huge cliffhanger though.

Just like for the novel readers.

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*e* I'm gonna have to disagree that Intrigues needs seven episodes, unless you're adding Melancholy of Mikuru into it.
Intrigues is very long for a light novel. And yes, I would be.
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Old 2009-06-04, 21:19   Link #218
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But if they use volume 9 they will have to use the (unreleased) Volume 10 right? If so, 14 are realy too few.

But the Volume 9 is realy that short?

EDIT:

Lets hope that they ar not going to end in a cliffhanger. I read somewhere that the Volume 10 was supposed to be realeased short after Volume 9, so the cliffhanger was not intentional

I agree that Volume 7 is realy that big.
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But if they use volume 9 they will have to use the (unreleased) Volume 10 right? If so, 14 are realy too few.

But the Volume 9 is realy that short?
Vol. 9 is three chapters and this ridiculously massive prologue.

Given it's still about the length of a normal book (even if there is little actual content), I'd suspect that one reason the two books were split up was due to length...

I may be underestimating/misremembering the amount of real content in Vol. 9, but I remember a lot of internal monologue. Like, more than usual.

Which is why it could fit into about 3 episodes.

Hmm. Assuming Vol. 10 is about 6-7 episodes in length and Vol. 11 is another short story book, they could definitely make another 28-episode season out of Vols. 7-11.
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The real content in Vol. 9 is realy small, but it is probably because it has too much conversation and the estory split.

The prologue is realy huge, but is hard to split in 2 episodes because it is basically a big conversation between Itsuki and Kyon. However, since most is a narration of a narration, maybe would be easy to cut.

If we follow the 3 episodes would be like this right?:

Dissociation Part I - Prologue
Dissociation Part II - Chapter 1 and 2
Dissociation Part III - Chapter 2 and 3

I think that chapter 3 deserve a full episode. But I guess that Astonishment Part I could include chapter 3. Is the same estory after all.
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