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Old 2009-08-15, 21:20   Link #921
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They already did it with Melancholy and Sigh, why stop now?
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... well at least it's consistent...
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Old 2009-08-16, 15:49   Link #922
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They already did it with Melancholy and Sigh, why stop now?
Actually, this isn't TOO bad, mostly because Diss. is well suited for a climax rather than a begining. We probably will begin with Diss, flash forward to later stories, and then flash back to finish it.

Personally, I'd like Diss. to run the entire second season, with all the... new... characters being fleshed out more than in the novels and the entire... new... setting being more thoroughly explored, also more than in the novels. Sorta like how that one manga, Diss of Yuki, I think it's called, is doing; though not in the same fashion or THAT detailed.

If KyoAni would like to make up for E8 AND make a boatload of money off merch and DVDs, I'd say going above and beyond with a full season of Diss. is a great way to do it. And it'd please the fans and give 'em more than the novels did.
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Old 2009-08-16, 16:11   Link #923
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There's not really all that much room to fill out, though. That five day time period kinda kills it.
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Old 2009-08-16, 23:21   Link #924
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So...is this the point where we're pretty much just waiting for what's to come after TMoHS (2009)? Seems like things have died down quite a bit now that Sigh's started and we [think] we know what the rest of the season has in store.
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Old 2009-08-16, 23:52   Link #925
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Yep... Sigh is a bit of a mood killer, isn't it?
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Old 2009-08-17, 00:00   Link #926
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There's not really all that much room to fill out, though. That five day time period kinda kills it.
Well...

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Of course, the above would require levels of creativity that KyoAni may not be capable of (not the simple concepts, of course - even I could come up with them, as I just did - but rather actually writing them/animating them).

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Yep... Sigh is a bit of a mood killer, isn't it?
The problem with Sighs is that we've already seen the funnest parts of it - the actual finished movie product, and Live a Live.
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Old 2009-08-17, 00:38   Link #927
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We probably will begin with Diss, flash forward to later stories, and then flash back to finish it.
Well, actual conclusion to Disappearance is set after Snow Mountauin Syndrome, isn't it.

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The problem with Sighs is that we've already seen the funnest parts of it - the actual finished movie product, and Live a Live.
Objection! Both aren't parts of Sighs, but separate stories even in novels.
Livealive has nothing to do with Sighs at all.
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Old 2009-08-17, 00:47   Link #928
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Well, actual conclusion to Disappearance is set after Snow Mountauin Syndrome, isn't it.


Objection! Both aren't parts of Sighs, but separate stories even in novels.
Livealive has nothing to do with Sighs at all.
Well, they're both part of the same cultural festival narrative, though. If you want to get this technical... we've already seen the best parts of the culture festival; Sighs is just showing us the lead-up to it.
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Old 2009-08-17, 01:47   Link #929
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we've already seen the best parts of the culture festival; Sighs is just showing us the lead-up to it.
Again, Sighs isn't about culture festival. Its highlights lie elsewhere.
In Haruhi's reality-changing powers, for example.
Or MIKURUBIIIMU.
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Old 2009-08-17, 02:10   Link #930
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Yep... Sigh is a bit of a mood killer, isn't it?
Which mood? The 'Screw KyoAni for wasting 8 episodes on Endless Eight mood!'?
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Old 2009-08-17, 02:11   Link #931
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The "I want to post" mood. As horrible as people claim Endless Eight was, at least there was activity here.
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Old 2009-08-17, 04:42   Link #932
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The "I want to post bitch" mood. As horrible as people claim Endless Eight was, at least there was activity here.
Corrected. Frankly, I don't miss the extra "activity".

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There's not really all that much room to fill out, though. That five day time period kinda kills it.
And even then, the "new characters" are only in the story less than three of those days.

That said, there are ways to extend the length of the story. A little fleshing out of what there is of the "new characters" could do it, but someone has an Itsuki-esque infodump around the middle of the story that is glossed over in the novel, but could be interesting to actually hear spelled out. I agree that a straight retelling would net 5 episodes, putting it almost on level with Melancholy, but looking at what else would need to fit into a true second season (whether one cour or two), 6 works out better, and Disappearance really is the best full-volume story in the series (even if Intrigues is my favorite for the time travel lulz and Tsuruya-san) and deserves as much time as Melancholy got.

There also happen to be a number of excellent "go to commercial" and "end the episode" moments in Disappearance, which is one of the reasons why I'd rather they didn't turn it into a movie. Not that I have seen any evidence whatsoever that they would, but there's been a lot of talk about the possibility, and we've seen what can happen to this fanbase when expectations and actuality collide...
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Old 2009-08-17, 04:45   Link #933
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While they didn't announce a renewed airing of the first season per se, they did announce the renewed airing of "Melacnholy".
I give a yes to that, though it's like a play of words.

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ANN never referred to it as the renewed airing until they announced the staff listing (which was in the March Newtype). The articles before that were just related to the cover and commercial promoting the magazine before release, which is when the rep said it was a 'rebroadcast' because they wouldn't say anything else about it (probably because the issue wasn't out yet and they couldn't).
As I said, the representative have never said such a thing.
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Old 2009-08-17, 06:08   Link #934
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Again, Sighs isn't about culture festival. Its highlights lie elsewhere.
In Haruhi's reality-changing powers, for example.
Or MIKURUBIIIMU.
Those highlights, though somewhat understated, where in Episode00 too.

I'll say this - as it pertains to Sighs, it'll be interesting to see...

1) Which scenes they decide to keep, and which ones they don't.

2) Of the scenes they keep, what (if any) editing/censorship there is.
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Those highlights, though somewhat understated, where in Episode00 too.
I've responded to this in the spoiler thread.
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Old 2009-08-17, 09:28   Link #936
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2) Of the scenes they keep, what (if any) editing/censorship there is.
From what I'm hearing, the minimal censorship is going to be the best adaptation. They can probably get away with a lot since it has a time slot in the wee hours of the morning.
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2) Of the scenes they keep, what (if any) editing/censorship there is.
Having read through over half the novel so far, I don't see why you think there is going to be anything censored or edited. There is nothing objectionable.
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From what I'm hearing, the minimal censorship is going to be the best adaptation. They can probably get away with a lot since it has a time slot in the wee hours of the morning.
That's true.

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Having read through over half the novel so far, I don't see why you think there is going to be anything censored or edited. There is nothing objectionable.
In Season 1, they
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Beyond that, I get the impression that KyoAni wants to present Haruhi as the always likable Genki Girl, downplaying (if not removing entirely) her darker side. Such a goal clashes with the 2nd half of Chapter 4 of Novel 2...

You're right, though, in that there's nothing truly objectionable in the novel when it comes to, say, what teenagers can watch.
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As I said, the representative have never said such a thing.
It seems like ANN got that wording from Newtype after they learned what was in it. I can't read Newtype myself, but they started using that term after the information from the article was out. I would imagine 'renewed' appears in the March 2009 Newtype, but obviously can't say for sure. The rep probably wasn't allowed to say anything else until that issue was released (and they asked him before it was).
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Beyond that, I get the impression that KyoAni wants to present Haruhi as the always likable Genki Girl, downplaying (if not removing entirely) her darker side. Such a goal clashes with the 2nd half of Chapter 4 of Novel 2...
Why do you think it? Except for that Lone Island scene(it is spoiler, having being aired already?) all her "evil" deeds are portraied feithfully. While this particular Sighs scen might be played down, she will probably be a compleate bitch here, or the scene will not make sense.
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