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View Poll Results: Fate/stay Night Episode 16 Rating
Perfect 10 27 15.98%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 49 28.99%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 45 26.63%
7 out of 10 : Good 34 20.12%
6 out of 10 : Average 9 5.33%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 1 0.59%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 4 2.37%
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Old 2006-04-25, 01:05   Link #241
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Ok on how beserker was defeated was... He just was.. Life goes on ^^

On the other hand is ilyasviel actually knew then why would she bring it up to them on the first place... Of course it'll help shirou with a lot of victories but... Shes still a master ^^. Just kill shirou when hes sleeping by some evil way like "Look into my eyes again" and dies... Doubt it...
y would she want to kill shirou if she cant win anymore anyways
she supposenly wont take any other servant besides beserker
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Old 2006-04-25, 01:30   Link #242
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Seems like Illya really likes Beserker...
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Old 2006-04-25, 01:40   Link #243
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Well, I can always be Illya's new Berserker A sad loli is a sorry sight
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Old 2006-04-25, 01:56   Link #244
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Seems like Illya really likes Beserker...
ya they had their blood pact and all.
would be kind've hard to replace
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Old 2006-04-25, 01:58   Link #245
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The lolicon's are coming back !

That aside, good points from iamandragon on how Berserker's lives were drained by Caliburn.
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Old 2006-04-25, 02:44   Link #246
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wonder y archer cant use golden trace..
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Old 2006-04-25, 06:57   Link #247
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Short question (brain is overflowing with info as I got into F/SN by watching all 16 eps yesterday and read all this http://www.geocities.com/max3075/fate/index.htm)

What's the difference between Caliburn and Excalibur?
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Old 2006-04-25, 07:12   Link #248
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Well, to answer briefly your question.

Depending on the legend, Caliburn and Excalibur are either one and the same sword or two different swords.

In the latter case, Caliburn was the sword of selection, the one King Arthur pulled out of the stone. Excalibur was, on the other hand, given to Arthur by the Lady of the Lake after he had lost Caliburn IIRC.
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Old 2006-04-25, 07:22   Link #249
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Well, I can always be Illya's new Berserker A sad loli is a sorry sight
And I can be Rin's new Archer...and my noble phantasm is UAW, Unlimited Archer Workshop
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Old 2006-04-25, 07:41   Link #250
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Seems like Illya really likes Beserker...
Yeah, she really does love him to pieces - all Berserker ever wanted was for Illya's happiness.
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Old 2006-04-25, 08:15   Link #251
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Hum hum... talking about UBW path I see...
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Old 2006-04-25, 09:20   Link #252
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In the latter case, Caliburn was the sword of selection, the one King Arthur pulled out of the stone. Excalibur was, on the other hand, given to Arthur by the Lady of the Lake after he had lost Caliburn IIRC.
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I guess here, in FSN, it's 2 different swords then.
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Old 2006-04-25, 09:39   Link #253
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No doubt about this, or there wouldn't be any point in Shirou imaging that sword.
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Old 2006-04-25, 13:43   Link #254
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Yes there is. Dual sword Saber...(who says you can't wield greatswords with one hand?)
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Old 2006-04-25, 14:08   Link #255
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Yes there is. Dual sword Saber...(who says you can't wield greatswords with one hand?)
Yes, if you're macho, extremely talented in wielding one sword and ambidextrous
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Old 2006-04-25, 14:41   Link #256
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(a berseker class?)
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Old 2006-04-25, 14:46   Link #257
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A All YURI cast would have been great.

So it will be Fate Stay Night Slumber Party
Get out of my head Xellos!



I was calling this and the last episode, fanservice episodes (eg: bathtime with Saber, etc..), earlier on, but they're not really.
Now that I think about it, fanservice is when you add something to the story solely to pander to the shows fanbase; but the FSN story line already had these elements written in, albeit in a far more erotic portrayal. So there really is no fanservice in the toned down anime as long as they stick to a previously existing story line.
Now if after the last episodes "magic circuit sharing" scene they showed Rin packing away her camcorder and Saber enjoying a cigarette, that would have been fanservice.
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Old 2006-04-25, 15:08   Link #258
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Lol, great post philip.

I do agree on your definition of fanservice although the fact that they emphasize these scenes can fall into fanservice. But I ain't complaining of course, since Fate path is my fav scenario.

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Yes, if you're macho, extremely talented in wielding one sword and ambidextrous
You forgot to mention : wielding two-hand swords with one hand...

I'm ambidextrous, not so macho, but pretty untalented with two-handed swords... damn, gotta work on that .
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Old 2006-04-25, 15:24   Link #259
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Yes, if you're macho, extremely talented in wielding one sword and ambidextrous
Saber has Dual Wield, One-Handed Specialisation, Longsword Specialisation and Ambitexterity feats.
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Old 2006-04-25, 15:32   Link #260
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Saber has Dual Wield, One-Handed Specialisation, Longsword Specialisation and Ambitexterity feats.
Well, since she doesn't use it one handed, I take it both her swords are two-handed, or a bastard sword. To wield a two-handed sword in one hand, you have to be some sort of giant, or have a feat that allows that, but imposes a -2 penalty on attack. If you want to wield a bastard sword in one hand, you need an exotic feat. To dual-wield you need all the line of Two-Weapon Fighting feats and insane dexterity. In D&D, the muscle is not required, but it is essential, if you want to negate all those dual-wielding penalties.
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