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View Poll Results: Fate/stay Night Episode 16 Rating
Perfect 10 27 15.98%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 49 28.99%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 45 26.63%
7 out of 10 : Good 34 20.12%
6 out of 10 : Average 9 5.33%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 1 0.59%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 4 2.37%
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Old 2006-04-26, 12:58   Link #301
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Rider would be a rogue if you ask me. Mostly sneak attack, agile, but can't really take damage and is more agi based then strengh.
Archer would be a fighter, wouldn't he? With some weapon specialisation, focusing on rather light and fast weapons.
BTW, what is this class thing all about?
With Archer and his dual wielding, I am thinking Ranger Class with some sort of prestige class.

With Rider the best i can come up with is a Rogue with Exotic weapons feats and a Outsider Template on top of her Gorgan Template.
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Old 2006-04-26, 15:36   Link #302
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Nothing, we just started arguing about if and how Saber could dual-wield, and then moved on to what could Saber be in D&D.

Well, a Half-Celestial template could justify the high stats, but it's still +4 LA, which is not very easy to play. It seems great when you think about it, but in actual play it has drawbacks that you didn't think about, more so if you are a magic-wielding character.

Standard Celestial template it just +2 LA, but the ability gain is low, and the MR is low, too, from what I recall.
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Old 2006-04-26, 18:29   Link #303
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and yet another girl joins Shirou's ever expanding harem house. IF i were him i would just keep winning all the girls over shack them up in my house and live the good life untill the war is over i mean he has enough rooms. Seem like ilya really did like berserker. I want to why she wants to stay with shirou does she seem him like of onii-chan and wants to remain by his side. she said she would have any other servant except for Berserker so i dont think we have to worry about her trying to kill Shirou and take Saber. My Rin Rin still providing support i hope they dont reduce her role with Archer gone
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Old 2006-04-26, 18:56   Link #304
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Rider would be a rogue if you ask me. Mostly sneak attack, agile, but can't really take damage and is more agi based then strengh.
Archer would be a fighter, wouldn't he? With some weapon specialisation, focusing on rather light and fast weapons.
BTW, what is this class thing all about?
I think apart from the weapon the servents actually use in their human form(I use human form because past, history and life are all inappropiate words...), their personality and tales does make a difference. For example Archer. He only used his bow once and even though he's not using one properly?!(He shot a sword not an arrow!) Weapon wise, he's really unfit to be one, saber class would fit him if you look at his weapon only. However the way Archer acts...self centered, unwilling to co-operate, cool minded all fits the way of an archer acts. And thus making him one.

btw Archer doesn't focus on light and fast weapons. (in fact all his weapons don't weight...)He doesn't have pros and cons when using a weapon. All weapons he summons are famous ones, and once he grabs one he automatically gain the skill needed to wield them. That's a bonus from UBW...

If you have done some basic research you'll know there're 7 types of servents who participate in the Holy Grail War...and we distinguish them in classes:

Saber
Lancer
Archer
Beserker
Rider
Caster
Assassin

And Saber is of the saber class(...really...*sweats*)
Of all classes Saber has the best basic affinity: Great magic resistance and instinct with high mana, swift and have no significant weakness, and the most royal servent out of all(least being Caster, who can even kill their own master...)

Anyways...to talk about whoose classes doesn't make sense...It's rider...She doesn't use a lance or knight sword like a cavalry/knight do, follows no code of conduct, and worse of all...
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Old 2006-04-26, 21:34   Link #305
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Anyways...to talk about whoose classes doesn't make sense...It's rider...She doesn't use a lance or knight sword like a cavalry/knight do, follows no code of conduct, and worse of all...
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lol frikking good point
how'd that happen
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Old 2006-04-26, 22:46   Link #306
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Anyways...to talk about whoose classes doesn't make sense...It's rider...She doesn't use a lance or knight sword like a cavalry/knight do, follows no code of conduct, and worse of all...
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I joined JUST to respond to this

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Old 2006-04-26, 22:56   Link #307
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I joined JUST to respond to this

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wow that would work too
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Old 2006-04-26, 23:07   Link #308
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Yeah, at first I didn't know what the heck was going on ... but after I spoiled myself and saw the phantasm, it made more sense o__O
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Old 2006-04-27, 02:12   Link #309
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Yeah, it makes more sense now...

But still, Rider remains strange to me. I mean "unfit" for this class.

However, I won't complain on the other class.

Where are you, my golden clad friend?
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Old 2006-04-27, 07:29   Link #310
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I fully agree. I was just referring to the sword you have to fight with. Otherwise, you are completely right.
Ah, I see. Well, blame my sleep deprived state for being just a tad slow at that point.

I wonder, somewhat, how we managed to move from episode 16 to D&D so effortlessly. Amusing, though. ^_^


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you seem pretty aware of French and European culture (somewhat more than I am, which is a shame since I'm French), is that what you study or is it just an interest?

Not in any formal sense, no. I'm technically a geneticist-in-waiting, and a writer-in-training. Basically, I've spent a large part of the past few years studying both genetic engineering and creative writing/literature. I've pretty much finished the genetics (just wrapping up some molecular bio), and will finish the writing degree next year.

History, especially ancient and religious history, has indeed always been an interest of mine - as has the history of the crusades and medieval Europe. And when you write a lot of varied stuff, you tend to build up a relatively... big... grounding in a lot of varied subjects. And studying literature and context of a lot of classical literature helps a lot too. As does (for other things) being a Graeco-Roman history/mythology nut. ^_^


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Old 2006-04-27, 08:15   Link #311
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I joined JUST to respond to this

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*Sweats*
I see...I thought she's using her blood as a prize to play in order to summon the power needed to hold back Saber so they can escape...
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Old 2006-04-27, 09:40   Link #312
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Not in any formal sense, no. I'm technically a geneticist-in-waiting, and a writer-in-training. Basically, I've spent a large part of the past few years studying both genetic engineering and creative writing/literature. I've pretty much finished the genetics (just wrapping up some molecular bio), and will finish the writing degree next year.

History, especially ancient and religious history, has indeed always been an interest of mine - as has the history of the crusades and medieval Europe. And when you write a lot of varied stuff, you tend to build up a relatively... big... grounding in a lot of varied subjects. And studying literature and context of a lot of classical literature helps a lot too. As does (for other things) being a Graeco-Roman history/mythology nut. ^_^
Good luck for your degree then I'm myself still studying economics and management.

I do admire your culture. I read quite a lot of classic litterature myself, but not really the medieval litterature which is not so studied even in French class (or some myths/folkloric songs, like "La chanson de Roland" ~ the song of Roland). But I clearly do not know enough about chivalry (I do know more about samurai lol).

I see that you're also a Graeco-Roman mythology nut . Good to see. I love this mythology of course (but I always use the Greek names, I'm sure you can guess why). Also, I've read Gilgamesh Epic a month ago. It's pretty much like Homer's Iliad, but older, and from Babylon. I'm sure you'll like this. If you haven't read it already.
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Old 2006-04-27, 21:58   Link #313
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thats alot of in-dept anaysis..
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Old 2006-04-27, 23:20   Link #314
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Old 2006-04-27, 23:58   Link #315
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The Golden Clad guy has yet to appear.., Archer and Shirou haven't fought yet either.., that's all you need to know.. :P
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Old 2006-04-28, 00:02   Link #316
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The Golden Clad guy has yet to appear.., Archer and Shirou haven't fought yet either.., that's all you need to know.. :P
We haven't seen Darth Vader either or Caster cute elven ears.
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Old 2006-04-28, 00:08   Link #317
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We haven't seen Darth Vader either or Caster cute elven ears.
I still have my doubts if "Darth Vader" will appear..., with so much yet left to be shown.., I think it will probably be cut out..

Caster will definitly show her ears though.., probably in the next episode or when she has to deal with a more challenging fight then when she fought Rider.
Either way.., I just want my Archer vs Shirou fight and I will be happy
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Old 2006-04-28, 01:11   Link #318
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i'd be happy if they made a season 2 or lots of ovas
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Old 2006-04-28, 06:57   Link #319
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i'd be happy if they made a season 2 or lots of ovas
I'll prefer OVA
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Old 2006-04-28, 07:36   Link #320
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