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Old 2012-08-29, 06:53   Link #10721
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Well at least now we are getting somewhere. ^.^ It was the tone of earlier posts from both you guys that put me in that mindframe and made me mad. I am a person that cares about people and maybe in saying what I said I was looking for ways to make my friend feel better. No one was dictating anything in my real life but things happen that make you think. What if that happens? What if one day I end up in her situation spending several years with someone expecting that we will be together for ever. They talked about marriage and family. They had their life planned then he suddenly ran off with some other girl. Not everything is black and white. And thanks I hope that she comes out of it too soon. I cant even get her to come out with my other girlfriends for a girls night out with no boys. I told her that she is time enough dating again and to take her time but she must find a way to be happy again with herself. It is frustrating when you cant do anything but speak empty words.

I know we dont have forver and it would be stupid to think so. Leo, thats not old or weird in my opinion. I guess us UK people have different standards for what is weird, not weird because I know more married couples who married in their late 20's up than younger ones. Late 30's and 40s is old. My grandmother had her children when she was 32 and 38 by the time she had her last one and she is in her 70's now and still very much alive and kicking. (not ignoring stats. just saying ^.^) I may have her age wrong when I said 74 but I know she is no more than 78. She may not see great grandchildren but that is not a priority for me or for her. Life is unpredicable and who knows what will happen.
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Old 2012-08-29, 07:56   Link #10722
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The statistics apply to men, too. The numbers are just the numbers that indicate trends; they don't dictate anything. I apologize if you felt that I was using them to try and dictate anything about your life; I don't think that I wrote anything like that, and if you interpreted anything that I wrote as such, please realize that it wasn't the intent.
But stats only say so much about anything, and they're proven fallible especially if sample sizes aren't big enough to represent the whole population. And don't forget weightings. Those are really important. Stats can be used to formulate a general opinion, but they're not an absolute.

Oh, and stats say nothing about love :S

@ Tigress: I hope your friend will get better. As you say, that guy was a douche and she deserves better. I'm guessing they were getting along well? Hopefully she'll be able to meet someone who is honest in time.
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Old 2012-08-29, 08:01   Link #10723
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Some of you are horribly twisting Ledgem's words here. The basic statement, since it's flying over some heads, is "The sooner the better" for having kids. Does that mean you can't later? No, it merely means that there are more risks to consider if you do. Does it mean you should rush in now? No. Does it mean you should start considering it now? Again, no. It merely means exactly what it says. There are less health risks with younger parents, that's all.
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Old 2012-08-29, 08:03   Link #10724
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Seems legit. All I'm saying is don't rely only on statistics too much.
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Old 2012-08-29, 09:08   Link #10725
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Some of you are horribly twisting Ledgem's words here. The basic statement, since it's flying over some heads, is "The sooner the better" for having kids. Does that mean you can't later? No, it merely means that there are more risks to consider if you do. Does it mean you should rush in now? No. Does it mean you should start considering it now? Again, no. It merely means exactly what it says. There are less health risks with younger parents, that's all.
I like your thinking. Actually in my situation (single since birth, huhuhu), though many of my friends in highschool has kids now... I don't feel being behind... I feel lucky instead coz I still have time to enjoy myself... getting married and having kids could wait.. what matters is "Are you stable to have one and support a family?"

That's why I worked hard to make myself stable financially so I will not face problems that most couples faced after rushing things up!!
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Old 2012-08-29, 09:16   Link #10726
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I like your thinking. Actually in my situation (single since birth, huhuhu), though many of my friends in highschool has kids now... I don't feel being behind... I feel lucky instead coz I still have time to enjoy myself... getting married and having kids could wait.. what matters is "Are you stable to have one and support a family?"

That's why I worked hard to make myself stable financially so I will not face problems that most couples faced after rushing things up!!
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Old 2012-09-01, 05:13   Link #10727
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oi oi..... wait up a minute.....you all blabber about (sometimes) useless things but take 1 thing in consideration....

it is 1 thing to have more chances of complications when you are older and having a pregnancy... but rushing in to make children while you yourself are pretty much a child too is something i do not approve of. i am not trying to say that at 24 you are a child or something but think that if you have a child at a young age when you hardly experienced life, will only bring unnecessary burdens to you and to the child too....

think of it this way.... you are still in college and you have a GF/BF and you hardly finish it and get married and 9 months later a kid comes.....
first today's job market is so unstable that you easily can become unemployed overnight and it is very hard to find a job nowadays, so would you risk having a child under these circumstances.....i think no.....
i am speaking of my own opinion... even though i have the necessary means to maintain a family if i got married and had kids now.. i still not think that i can give the best of things to my children if they were born next year (this is theoretical). that is why i try to make a more stable environment where i can raise a child without taking any risks.

and anyway think about the fact that the majority of people who are 18-25 are living so carefree these days that i still don't think they have the suitable skill to raise a kid....
honestly do you want a healthy kid in body but who has to spare every moment in his/her life just because his/her parents were hurrying to make a child or to make a stable envoronment where you can give all the necessary thing to the child, but you have to risk a slightly bigger chance for a birth complication. (there are many women in their early 20's who have kids with birth defects)
and i also think that 30-35 for a woman is not exxageratingly late to make a child but after 35-37 comes the real problem, and theoretically if a girl finishes college she 21-22-max 23 until she is 30 she has like 9-7 years to make a stable living for herself and not risk any complications bearing a child, so i think with this we might as well call this case CLOSED. END of discussion.

any other topic?... i am hungry for something good, and also sorry but i have been busy and sick lately so i haven't had the chance to check up on all of you but since i saw this topic of kids dragged on for two weeks already i thought this should be over with....it generates unnecessary tension.....
this should be a dating thread, about dating and relationships not a "raising kids early or late" thread

thanks for your consideration

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Old 2012-09-08, 00:26   Link #10728
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Need some advice on what my fellow animesukians would do. I have this friend at university who i've known for around a year now. After getting to know her I sorta developed feelings for her and so I made a move. Shes never had a bf and so is really shy when it comes to relationship stuff so I took my time with her. I asked her out 2 months ago and we became closer and closer. We would see each other everyday yet we never really past 1st base (physical affection). After a week or two she told me that she wasn't sure what she felt. She knew she liked me but didn't know if she liked me for me or simply because she found someone who liked her (I don't understand girls). Yet she left it at that, not really accepting me or rejecting me.

After a week of awkwardness I decided enough was enough and poured my soul out to her (rookie mistake). I told her I've never felt this way about anyone blah blah blah but also that i'll be perfectly fine if she rejected me as I had a feeling that she was only pity liking me. She ended up crying in my car for an hour not looking up from her arms before we finally spoke. Yet she ended up joking about random things without rejecting or accepting me...sigh...

We just had uni break and after not speaking to her for a week we saw each other at a friends gathering. She still speaks and acts towards me in that -more than friends, but less than romance- manner and it drives me batshit. I've already prepared myself for being inducted into the dreaded friend zone but the way she acts towards me honestly builds me up time and time again. I know that confronting her about it will be bad because she enjoys 'the simple things in life' and doesn't like too much drama...go figure. Most of my friends tell me to give up on her but I can't let her go if I feel somewhere inside of her she shares the same feelings.
So there's my cool story. Now throw a brother a bone please. Any advice will be noted and appreciated
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Old 2012-09-08, 04:43   Link #10729
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now i don't want to break your spirit... but this situation looks like you are getting friend-zoned., and she thinks about going romantic or to go back being just friends....
At this point you really have almost no say in the matter....she will decide mostly based on your past actions....if you want to be romantic with her... i suggest going out a few times get real physical with her.. to the point you can almost "lay" her (third base), but restrain yourself at the last point and get playful.. tickle her and such games(no fourth base)... but don't sleep with her YET...teasing her is a great way to make her addicted to you.

this should help her "decide" to go for the romantic route... and by being playful and stopping when you have to , you earn both her respect and her curiosity(because girls are hungry for excitement and mystery - why did you not go all the way? this will be her question)

i hope my advice can help you in the matter and you should hurry it up a bit cause girls are sometimes unpredictable....

Get real romantic and physical but hold back too and she will come back to you like a moth to the flame...

Learn from my mistakes.. i said to myself that ok i will be friends with a girl and then get closer.....it is the other way around... go for it like it is the only chance....

another thing by the way you described the situation there is still hope......so the first thing you do when reading this.. call her talk to her and casually arrange a date ASAP. you need to make your intentions clear to her....now she is thinking about how serious you might be.. so show her what she wants....this is a so called shit-test.....if you do nothing or let yourself get friendzoned you fail and never be able to get romantic again....only if a great trauma "hits" her and you are there but this is unlikely...

so i hope the best for you....
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Old 2012-09-08, 05:20   Link #10730
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Thanks for your reply, appreciate it. I don't really mind getting friend zoned if thats what she sees me as. I mean we were friends before this happened so meh. What would kill me if she ended up being the one that got away... I kinda noticed your idea of teasing works. She is a jealous person so maybe show her that she isn't the be all end all of me by flirting with other girls? I know this is a fine line between showing her you're not a total man slut and keeping her on her toes so maybe I just need to find this balance? I've reached the point where I'm the reacher in the relationship and she's the settler. Some other advice i've gotten was to let her go and if she comes back then she's keen...

This shit is complicated
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Old 2012-09-08, 06:24   Link #10731
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First of all we have to understand that we cannot force or make people show romantic interest in you. Now I am not saying you are forcing the issue, or even that you are being too aggressive, I just want you to be aware that on many occasions there is no way of making her like you. That decision ultimately belongs to her.

I think two months is enough time for a girl to know if there is a potential for a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship. If she remains undecided about her feelings after two months then quite likely she does not have feelings for you. I would also say that explaining your feelings was the right thing to do and was not a rookie mistake. Perhaps you can question the manner of the execution but the act itself was a good one. In the future if you are ever in a position you do need to make a move the only question is how but really saying something, anything is better than nothing because at least you can hold your hand and say you tried. I mean if you did nothing then your thoughts about the one that got away will be stronger which is something you want to avoid. If you tried and failed at least you could say it did not work out but not through lack of trying.

As for what to do, from the tone of your posts it seems you really do want to make this work so I suppose my advice would be to take things slowly and perhaps bring up the topic in a light-hearted manner and try your best not to place too much pressure on her giving the answer you want, suggest that it is okay to say no if she is lacking in confidence to be upfront (from the sound of things she does sound rather nervous of the whole thing so hold her so to speak to be honest with herself). From the sound of things however I think it is a bit of long shot and you should not have high hopes on a favourable outcome upon asking her. Ironically those low expectations could work on your favour as you will be less nervous as you are expecting less from her. If she says anything other than a firm yes then I would move on or at the very very least abandon any hope of having a romantic relationship with one her.
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Old 2012-09-08, 13:35   Link #10732
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whoops... i thought this might get here....

don't take it slowly.....you know her for like 1 year... this was very slow.....now it is the time to speed up things... cause the slow pace causes her to be unsure.....

flirting with other girls usually backfires.....don't do it.....tease her.....by teasing her....no underhanded tactics.....i say it from experience.....
if you start making her jealous she will get angry and when you get back to her she will think of you as a womanizer and you blow the chances you had until now.

and another thing about you friends....i had a thing 4 a hottie in high school... in 4 years time...i grew closer to her.. in the last year i made my move.....in a slow pace and my friend told me to give up on her.....i gave up on her and....3 weeks later my friend hooked up with her....

so i don't wanna say your friends are like that....but if you get permanently friend zoned and 1 friend of yours hooks up with her it will be like a living hell.....

make your move now.....don't waste time... she likes simple things you say.......
get it simple to her.....be my girl....if you are in this semi-friend-lover relationship....that is not simple at all....and friendship between man and women do not exist.....or love or nothing...

if she rejects you... don't become her friend....minimize contact as much as you can, cause even the most kind-hearted girl gets somehow a lackey involuntarily and it will give you false hope and everything....

not saying that she is one of those.. but i had 10 years worth of experience of being friend-zoned by a ton of girls almost every kind of them, and i was such a good friend that i helped them nevertheless and gave myself false hopes by doing so.....

do what i wrote you in my last post.. it will make things crystal clear.. and heck you might even get her....focus on her for now and you will get the result for your question....

you have to evolve from friend material to dating material. the only way is to make advances. she might think of it as a joke first but be decisive and show some poker-face at certain situations... and it will be in the bag.....in no time
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Old 2012-09-08, 14:55   Link #10733
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I'll agree with monsta666 here. I think being too aggressive at this point would actually turn her off. There is already tension between the two of you. But, her indecision seems to point more towards nervousness, rather than a sense of pity. It is really up to her to decide what happens next but you can nudge it along. You could go on a small date and do little things like leaning on her or what not. Just to tread along yours and her thin physical boundaries. You really just want to make her aware that you are serious and you are being honest about your feelings. It's up to her to find out if she wants to be as honest with her feelings too.

If that does fail and things seem to dull out, I do think you should move on. You sound like you like her, but you wouldn't be so hung up to figure out that it wouldn't work out. At the end of the day, if you feel that you did all you could to reach out to her and she doesn't respond, perhaps it just wasn't meant to be. But you'll at least leave with the sense of action rather than inaction. If that makes sense.
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Old 2012-09-08, 22:49   Link #10734
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Thanks guys. I think I'll give her abit more space to think it out before I confront her again. It's as you all said, as long as I tried then I can walk away with my head held high. Cheers
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Old 2012-09-09, 02:11   Link #10735
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You should probably shower her with chocolate and somehow touch or brush her shoulder or hand to see her response. If she gives this awkward look then your chances isn't good.
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Old 2012-09-10, 10:47   Link #10736
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So before I say much else, I'm just going to outright ask, how old are you and she? Are you guys close to graduation at all? Career prospects? Socio-economic status?

I'm just curious cause in highschool and college/university .. I dated. A LOT. Since then, I've been with the same girl for 8 years and we got engaged in April.

Without getting too much into it, when you're younger.. people play games, lots of them.. and they mess with your mind if you think about them too much. I played them too. And not all of them are intentional, it's because everyone is so inexperienced and indecisive. People expect a pop and sparkle, even though sometimes it might not be there in the beginning..
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Old 2012-09-11, 02:51   Link #10737
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So before I say much else, I'm just going to outright ask, how old are you and she? Are you guys close to graduation at all? Career prospects? Socio-economic status?

I'm just curious cause in highschool and college/university .. I dated. A LOT. Since then, I've been with the same girl for 8 years and we got engaged in April.

Without getting too much into it, when you're younger.. people play games, lots of them.. and they mess with your mind if you think about them too much. I played them too. And not all of them are intentional, it's because everyone is so inexperienced and indecisive. People expect a pop and sparkle, even though sometimes it might not be there in the beginning..
Im nearly 20 and she's 19. This is my second year of uni yet it still feels like high school tbh. Haha yeah I've played quite alot of games but idk she seems too innocent to be playing those, its kinda what made me attracted to her in the first place. I totally get what you mean with failed expectations, things NEVER ever went as how I imagined... I learnt lessons about myself and 'how to play the game' regardless. I'm one of the worst people to get mind messed (if thats a thing) because I often tend to over think every single thing that happens. It's just so confusing trying to find a girlfriend, I'd much rather prefer the more 'bachelor' life style I was living before I fell for her. And maybe I will end up going back to that, but I'm not giving up just yet.

By the way congrats on your engagement. All the best with your future wife
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Old 2012-09-11, 10:07   Link #10738
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Im nearly 20 and she's 19. This is my second year of uni yet it still feels like high school tbh. Haha yeah I've played quite alot of games but idk she seems too innocent to be playing those, its kinda what made me attracted to her in the first place. I totally get what you mean with failed expectations, things NEVER ever went as how I imagined... I learnt lessons about myself and 'how to play the game' regardless. I'm one of the worst people to get mind messed (if thats a thing) because I often tend to over think every single thing that happens. It's just so confusing trying to find a girlfriend, I'd much rather prefer the more 'bachelor' life style I was living before I fell for her. And maybe I will end up going back to that, but I'm not giving up just yet.

By the way congrats on your engagement. All the best with your future wife
Thanks. We're relatively happy..

In all seriousness, thinking back to how I was at your age and in your place in life, any and all of the words any of us says will be: "Ah, that makes sense, now I'm going to go back to being emotional about it!"

But .. believe it or not, but this isn't the most important thing in your life, neither in the future nor right now.. It might be hard to believe but it's true.

I've just turned 29 recently, I'm happily engaged, have a very nice pot of savings and was in Japan in April touring the cherry blossoms in Tokyo & Kyoto and enjoying the hot springs in Hakone. I proposed to my fiance in Japan, amidst the cherry blossoms and strolled about hand-in-hand. We dated for 7.5 years before we got engaged .. and here's the clincher .. she wasn't the girl I was in love with 10 years ago.

Let me tell you a story about myself to put things into perspective, albeit this story doesn't have a "fairy tale" ending because it's real life -- I've hidden it in a spoiler tag so as not to bombard people with a "wall of text"
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Hopefully this helps you put a bit of your life into a larger perspective.
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Old 2012-09-11, 14:22   Link #10739
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you might be right that love evolves and changes and you might end up with someone very different from our original dream.....
this is life... you might date someone for years on end and in a sweep you break up and not a year passes and you marry another one..

it is true that we all make mistakes at one time... we are humans after all.

i too have a bit of a problem....you might have read it a few pages before.. i have a fairly long post history here... but the thing is in extra-thin version......

i think i have a phobia.....after trying to overcome my limitations and objectively speaking of myself i went to a party at the week-end and tried to socialize a bit.....but i failed miserably and at the first sign of a route... i escaped.......


this might be my fear of people and i am really sorry to have this kind of attitude but i want to become a more social guy.....i'm not saying i want to be popular.. but i don't want to be the lowest rank underdog in every circle i enter....

i actually thought of going to a shrink.. but this is a long term thing and getting close to 25 i feel a pressure to get my act together and have my first girlfriend, and the other firsts i have to before i settle down.......

but the most peculiar thing is that i know very much about relationships and all but it is only theory i don't have a shred of experience. (Time spent having a girlfriend: 0 seconds; Times kissed: 0; i think this tells it all)

and i say it with all my heart....i want to find happiness......i already hate my life as it is now....totally grey....no change... i go home and nobody awaits....i have no one dear to me to talk to... nobody to say how cute she is.. or how i love her.....and i feel so empty that even the things i used to love don't fill me with happiness......

honestly at this moment i could win the lottery and not be very happy about it at all...that is how i would describe myself now.

i come usually here looking for advice, but in recent times the thread went off-topic and the people disappeared....

it might have been of my more or less aggressive comments.....i have a tendency to scare or chase away people....

I'm sorry Guys.....i'm still immature, socially....

I think i start to lose the grip on my life....like it is slipping away and i am helpless to watch it from the sidelines.
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Old 2012-09-11, 15:58   Link #10740
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I'm sorry that you're unhappy with your life and I genuinely hope that things get better for you, but it's unlikely (but not impossible) that any advice you receive here could truly be that helpful - ultimately almost anything I or anyone else says is generally common sense and/or knowledge that you already know. That being said, I'd like to offer two simple pieces of advice that you can take or leave lying on the road:

1) You seem to be focusing a lot on social interaction and relationships. These things are very important .. true .. but what about the rest of your life and the rest of your goals? Job? Education? Hobbies? Interests? A person's social life doesn't come from a vacuum. It gets developed as you pursue your interests and meet those with the same. Going to a party with music that you don't like and alcohol that you don't drink isn't likely going to help anything. Volunteering for a cause you believe in and going to workshops or activities that you enjoy are more likely to make you a more interesting person and introduce you to people that share the same interests.

2) Confidence / Attitude - This may sound a bit contradictory to my comment above, but bear with me .. this is one fact that I've found to be very true in life in general. With regards to work, life and simply growing up ..

"Pretend until it's true" -- That's right. Act confident. Act grown up. Act mature. I'm not telling you to lie, because while you're "acting" you're learning through both research and osmosis. You'll also fail sometimes. No one's good at their job right when they start, but no one's going to hire you unless you act confident that you WILL be able to learn and be good at it later. No one starts as a grown up, but you start "acting" more mature and eventually you "become" it.

Sounds silly, but if you read "14-sai no Koi" and think back to how you were when you were 13/14 and how you "grew up" it's a lesson people need to sometimes re-learn.
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