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Old 2009-10-15, 22:47   Link #1901
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And another piece of advice...that first girl you will meet will most likely not be the one.

To be specific...if things were not to work out...it is not the end of the world. You'll meet many, many people in your lifetime and each subsequent girl you meet will be better than the last.

It's a big world...don't think there is only one other girl literally.
I never said there was only ONE right person, lolz.

I just said, I'm waiting for someone who has similar interests to me and stuff.
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Old 2009-10-16, 04:23   Link #1902
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I never said there was only ONE right person, lolz.

I just said, I'm waiting for someone who has similar interests to me and stuff.
Some mentor figure in your life has probably already said this to you before, but you seem like a sweet-natured guy with a lot of optimism so I feel compelled to say it: don't ever lower your standards for anyone or anything. It's good that you're open, but if you're waiting for a specific connection, keep on waiting. Most likely, what you truly desire will change as you learn and experience more, but whatever that may become, never settle for any less. Not even once.

Settling in the love department never did anyone any good.
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Old 2009-10-16, 07:39   Link #1903
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Seems like you guys have agreed that my current approach remains the best one, so far. Now I just have to wait and see what the married man or oneechan has to say....
Aaah, this would explain the sudden rise on my profile page.
6 pages in 6 days with some pretty heavy stuff, sorry i've not been able to keep on top of this (or even the other threads I mingle around in GC tbh),

I see Ledgem and a few others have all been equally dispensing some pretty danm good advice out there, so since everyone is tossing their 2 pence around, seems I can lurk and try to continue from the last page at present.
(aaaanyone wanna write me a 'summary' of each person's current issue and their progress?)

On Splitpersonality's note, your issue was the girl who wanted to experiment and we had a few peeps in here more or less tell you to tell her 'gtfo'? xD
- Seems you've 'parted' on a mutual note, congrats for being an adult bout it and keeping it civil
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Old 2009-10-16, 08:31   Link #1904
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I'm waiting for the right person.

I would want to be with someone who shares my interests (Anime or video games, preferably anime) and gives loads and loads of hugs.

And someone who is nice.

Looks dun matter.

But I have been kissed before ^ _ ^
Interests are important, but less so than values. Sometimes the lines are blurred a bit. For example, a very popular thing to do these days is to go out and get drunk. It's prevalent at the undergraduate student level, but surprisingly it's pervasive even in at the graduate level (although perhaps not as much, as people don't have as much free time). If you're not into the drinking scene and perhaps have a dislike of alcohol and drunkenness in general, obviously your compatibility would be lowered with someone who loves getting drunk. I think of that as a value (dislike of using drugs to alter mental state) and an activity (not going out and drinking).

Hobbies and interests can and will change over time. My fiancee was never into anime, but we've now watched quite a few series together. She isn't a raging anime fan, though. Actually I wouldn't even classify her as an anime fan, she just enjoys watching some of them. To be honest, these days I guess people wouldn't classify me as an anime fan, either. Ah, I remember back when I was 15 or so, I used to watch every single series that was listed on AnimeSuki and managed to keep up with all of them. These days I'm lucky if I can stick with even one... change of interests, change of lifestyle.

The big reason I'm replying was just to say that looks do matter. You have the right idea that they're not the most important thing to look for, but don't tell yourself that they don't matter at all. It isn't shallow to say that. You want to be with someone who is attractive to you. You want to be proud of them in all aspects, you want to feel good walking next to them and bringing them out to social functions, and you want to be able to look over at them and think to yourself "wow, she (or he) is so beautiful/handsome, what an amazing person, I'm so lucky." It matters. If your sole connection is based on hobby then you might as well just be good friends and nothing more, and once hobbies change then the relationship might be in jeopardy.

I'll just clarify (partly to keep Narona at bay ) that the beauty aspect should be based on your opinion. If the whole school (or the whole office, for you adults) feels that one girl/guy is the absolute best-looking human on the face of the planet, that shouldn't have anything to do with your desire for him/her. If you find him/her attractive (or unattractive) that is all that needs to be considered.

How much does it matter overall? I'd subjectively rank it third, with similar life values being #1 and similar relationship goals being #2. A girl doesn't have to be into anime and videogames for you to get along great with her and find other, potentially new shared interests.
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Old 2009-10-16, 09:23   Link #1905
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The big reason I'm replying was just to say that looks do matter. You have the right idea that they're not the most important thing to look for, but don't tell yourself that they don't matter at all. It isn't shallow to say that. You want to be with someone who is attractive to you. You want to be proud of them in all aspects, you want to feel good walking next to them and bringing them out to social functions, and you want to be able to look over at them and think to yourself "wow, she (or he) is so beautiful/handsome, what an amazing person, I'm so lucky." It matters. If your sole connection is based on hobby then you might as well just be good friends and nothing more, and once hobbies change then the relationship might be in jeopardy.

I'll just clarify (partly to keep Narona at bay ) that the beauty aspect should be based on your opinion. If the whole school (or the whole office, for you adults) feels that one girl/guy is the absolute best-looking human on the face of the planet, that shouldn't have anything to do with your desire for him/her. If you find him/her attractive (or unattractive) that is all that needs to be considered.
This about looks reminded me of some stuff I've either encountered or experienced. Just recently, one of the teachers in the school where I work, who is divorced and has two kids like 'moi', was convinced about going on a blind date set by other colleagues. She rejected the guy when she saw he had some black teeth. Other colleagues tried to tell her that she could fix that by bringing him to a good dentist, but she was not persuaded, even though the guy looked okay otherwise.

On another note, when I was an undergraduate, I went out a few times with a guy who was about 8 years older than I. The age gap didn't matter to me, but sometimes I wonder if I was too shallow because I never wanted to really date him because he had some fake teeth he would remove whenever we were going to eat, making me cringe.

In that sense, sometimes it's not just the looks, but other things too that can affect, unless one is able to overlook them somehow.
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Old 2009-10-16, 09:42   Link #1906
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@Mystique,

LOL, a summary of what I've been up to will still take a looooooong while......

That said, update on my situation:

We're heading into the crunch time period of the term. She's starting to get real busy, and I'm facing the prospect of having a bunch of stuff to do myself. Things look like they're gonna be this way for the next couple or three weeks, and this is the first week in recent memory that we haven't been able to go on a date, although that's mostly because we just haven't been able to meet in campus. Considering the work we're having to deal with at this stage, I'd say it's for the better anyway; so the question I have is actually fairly minor. How do I strike a balance between not jeopardizing her grades and mine as well, and not letting what we have cool down from neglect?

Otherwise, everything is going good; we're still talking quite a bit despite the schoolwork, and we're going to see the MJ movie on the 30th (....what? She liked MJ. ), so there's no real trouble brewing actually. I just need to figure out how to strike that balance between now and until then; heck, I'll probably need to do that again when it comes time for the exam period. So yeah, to reiterate, how do I do that? Is finding opportunities to snuggle her for brief periods sufficient? Or anything else I can consider trying?

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Old 2009-10-16, 09:55   Link #1907
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Looks can say an aweful lot about lifestyle, it's not a completely superficial aspect of dating. You want to date someone who looks healthy and vibrant, not a zombie who's clearly been up all night for several nights in a row, or who's been eating junk. Again, it reflects their chosen lifestyle, and when a person puts in effort to do all the right things (like GO to the dentist), they want...or expect a similar level of mindfulness from a partner. It ties in to life values in a way.
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Old 2009-10-16, 15:25   Link #1908
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@Ascaloth:

You're still talking quite a bit, it seems, which is a good thing. That, in itself, may be enough to keep what you have going strong, without jeopardizing each others grades. By the same token (forgive me for being unable to recall if we've moved past this bit), this may be a good opportunity to give her the time to sort out her feelings without the whole physical aspect of the relationship have an affect on her decision.

You could always suggest a specific day and time where the two of you decide to meet up for a short period; a coffee or something of that nature. I'm sure the opportunity to get away from your studies, if only for a brief time, would be of benefit to both of you, so that your brains don't burn out from staring at text books and classroom material for umpteen consecutive hours.
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Old 2009-10-16, 16:26   Link #1909
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Interests are important, but less so than values. Sometimes the lines are blurred a bit. For example, a very popular thing to do these days is to go out and get drunk. It's prevalent at the undergraduate student level, but surprisingly it's pervasive even in at the graduate level (although perhaps not as much, as people don't have as much free time). If you're not into the drinking scene and perhaps have a dislike of alcohol and drunkenness in general, obviously your compatibility would be lowered with someone who loves getting drunk. I think of that as a value (dislike of using drugs to alter mental state) and an activity (not going out and drinking).

Hobbies and interests can and will change over time. My fiancee was never into anime, but we've now watched quite a few series together. She isn't a raging anime fan, though. Actually I wouldn't even classify her as an anime fan, she just enjoys watching some of them. To be honest, these days I guess people wouldn't classify me as an anime fan, either. Ah, I remember back when I was 15 or so, I used to watch every single series that was listed on AnimeSuki and managed to keep up with all of them. These days I'm lucky if I can stick with even one... change of interests, change of lifestyle.

The big reason I'm replying was just to say that looks do matter. You have the right idea that they're not the most important thing to look for, but don't tell yourself that they don't matter at all. It isn't shallow to say that. You want to be with someone who is attractive to you. You want to be proud of them in all aspects, you want to feel good walking next to them and bringing them out to social functions, and you want to be able to look over at them and think to yourself "wow, she (or he) is so beautiful/handsome, what an amazing person, I'm so lucky." It matters. If your sole connection is based on hobby then you might as well just be good friends and nothing more, and once hobbies change then the relationship might be in jeopardy.

I'll just clarify (partly to keep Narona at bay ) that the beauty aspect should be based on your opinion. If the whole school (or the whole office, for you adults) feels that one girl/guy is the absolute best-looking human on the face of the planet, that shouldn't have anything to do with your desire for him/her. If you find him/her attractive (or unattractive) that is all that needs to be considered.

How much does it matter overall? I'd subjectively rank it third, with similar life values being #1 and similar relationship goals being #2. A girl doesn't have to be into anime and videogames for you to get along great with her and find other, potentially new shared interests.
But I dun care much about looks anyway.

I would still rather be with someone with similar interests then a good looking girl.

I dun wanna think of the girl I'm with as a prize, I want to think of her as someone I can enjoy sharing my hobbies with.

I'm not lowing my standeds, no no no, I just dun actually care much about looks.

Otaku's and gamers Pwn looks, (IMO)

And besides, I'm still young, sooo, I can't really think of what else I would be getting into besides playing video games and watching anime and going to movies ^ _ ^ (And hugs and kisses)

Anyway, and as for social fluctu-something, I've never been extremely social with many people ^ _ ^ (More then 4 people makes me feel crowded) And I've never liked partys, and never put tooo many efforts to act the same as the group. Lolz. So how I look socially dun matter to me, I just be a nice person and see where it takes me.
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Old 2009-10-16, 17:39   Link #1910
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I'll just clarify (partly to keep Narona at bay ) that the beauty aspect should be based on your opinion. If the whole school (or the whole office, for you adults) feels that one girl/guy is the absolute best-looking human on the face of the planet, that shouldn't have anything to do with your desire for him/her. If you find him/her attractive (or unattractive) that is all that needs to be considered.

How much does it matter overall? I'd subjectively rank it third, with similar life values being #1 and similar relationship goals being #2. A girl doesn't have to be into anime and videogames for you to get along great with her and find other, potentially new shared interests.
What did you expect me to reply?

Actually I entirely approve what you said (that happens quite a lot lately ).

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Looks can say an aweful lot about lifestyle, it's not a completely superficial aspect of dating. You want to date someone who looks healthy and vibrant, not a zombie who's clearly been up all night for several nights in a row, or who's been eating junk. Again, it reflects their chosen lifestyle, and when a person puts in effort to do all the right things (like GO to the dentist), they want...or expect a similar level of mindfulness from a partner. It ties in to life values in a way.
Good look is not only physical appearance like nice face, long hair etc. For example, when I look at the boys clothes at my university, I can deduce those who might iron their clothes themselves. It seems rather not important at first, but I consider that as a good quality that can be reflected on one's appearance.



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And another piece of advice...that first girl you will meet will most likely not be the one.

To be specific...if things were not to work out...it is not the end of the world. You'll meet many, many people in your lifetime and each subsequent girl you meet will be better than the last.

It's a big world...don't think there is only one other girl literally.
I might be too blunt, but why are you already trying to "comfort" somebody who has not failed yet?

I'll be honest, I dislike bitter people. I don't know if it's your case, but I heard so many bitter people saying things like that, that I feel like posting about it. I apologize in advance if you're not part of those people.

I dislike the ones who failed something (whatever the goal) and so hang around spreading the words that the other people will most likely fail too (actually, from my pov, that should not stop them to actually cheer for those who have still the chance to achieve what they failed to achieve, instead of already syaing to them that "it is ok to fail").

I hope I will not bring misfortune on Ledgem's couple (I sincerely wish you and your GF a lot of happiness, Ledgem.), but so far, and to give an example of people we know a bit here on AS (so I hope i'll not be neg repped this time by Mister/Miss I hate Narona's examples) it seems that his soon-to-become wife did wait a bit for the right guy, and actually met him. I'll not say that such things happens often, but for those who seek such goal (so not everyone obviously), I think it's good to say to them that it can definitely happen, and I think that's not something "bad" to not experience failed relationships (again I hope i'll not bring misfortune on your couple, Ledgem >.< ). I don't see the point of crushing people hopes.

So, my opinion is, and I believe that it's true for a lot of goals you could have (well, I talk about realistic goals, like not expecting to be the first RL Sayajin)), till everything is not over, continue to fight. Don't start doing something while thinking that "it will probably fail so let's alreday start comforting myself that it will be ok to fail", that will only slow you, and put even more obstacles on your way. Instead, do your best, abd work harder than hard.

This way, imo, you'll give yourself more chances of success, and you'll have no, or at least less regrets if it fails.
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Old 2009-10-16, 18:12   Link #1911
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But I dun care much about looks anyway.

I would still rather be with someone with similar interests then a good looking girl.

I dun wanna think of the girl I'm with as a prize, I want to think of her as someone I can enjoy sharing my hobbies with.

I'm not lowing my standeds, no no no, I just dun actually care much about looks.
I'm sorry but unless your deliberatly saying hey look over there is the epitomy of ugly, I shall date them then your probably deciding if their attractive or not, which you do on instinct (we are animals after all).

Now thats not to say your going after super models because your probably not but in a very, very rapid amount of time you've decided if another person is attractive or not based purely on apperence.

Of course theres a distinct possibility that personality wise or life stylewise they might not be a match but thats why you talk to a person and fliter with them, both of you are trying to decide if each other is a good match.

Like it or not there have been extensive studies into sexual attraction, its a pretty interesting subject, I just skim read this article and its probably worth checking out.

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Old 2009-10-16, 18:38   Link #1912
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I'm sorry but unless your deliberatly saying hey look over there is the epitomy of ugly, I shall date them then your probably deciding if their attractive or not, which you do on instinct (we are animals after all).

Now thats not to say your going after super models because your probably not but in a very, very rapid amount of time you've decided if another person is attractive or not based purely on apperence.

Of course theres a distinct possibility that personality wise or life stylewise they might not be a match but thats why you talk to a person and fliter with them, both of you are trying to decide if each other is a good match.

Like it or not there have been extensive studies into sexual attraction, its a pretty interesting subject, I just skim read this article and its probably worth checking out.
Well, I always find it funny when some people don't fit what the scientists see as norm.

There were many debates in France about that. Men who are [sexually] attracted by fat or older women exist (and there were some quite good looking guys among those who were shown. IIRC, It was in a "Ca se Discute" debate) Women who fell in love with quite poor guys (so they don't fit the "women only go after the men with big wallet" <<< in the case of these, the society itself plays a big role imo, much more than genetics. When i compare how it is said to be in some asian countries in comparison to France, I can see that.) etc.

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Old 2009-10-16, 18:51   Link #1913
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I'm sorry but unless your deliberatly saying hey look over there is the epitomy of ugly, I shall date them then your probably deciding if their attractive or not, which you do on instinct (we are animals after all).

Now thats not to say your going after super models because your probably not but in a very, very rapid amount of time you've decided if another person is attractive or not based purely on apperence.

Of course theres a distinct possibility that personality wise or life stylewise they might not be a match but thats why you talk to a person and fliter with them, both of you are trying to decide if each other is a good match.

Like it or not there have been extensive studies into sexual attraction, its a pretty interesting subject, I just skim read this article and its probably worth checking out.

sexual attraction
I'm pretty immune to most human instincts (I'm completey eccentric)

Thing is, my wires are like this.

I don't notice looks much at all, but if a girl says she plays video games, or watches anime, I get attracted to her.

I know, I just don't see the fundamental perpous of looks, (I'm too logical in that area) Looks in my opinion just seem like a useless addon.

It's like when you buy a car, and it looks awsome, but it works like shit >.<

It's the same in how I just grab random clothes to wear.

It's not that I'm lowering my standed's, It's that I really honestly don't get why people like looks so much. I just don't understand the great thing about them.

It's alot like how I see people beating each other up, I never have got a urge to beat anyone up (But thats more because I'm a girly, so that's probably completely irrelevant to this topic.)
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Old 2009-10-16, 19:27   Link #1914
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Well, I always find it funny when some people don't fit what the scientists see as norm.

There were many debates in France about that. Men who are [sexually] attracted by fat or older women exist (and there were some quite good looking guys among those who were shown. IIRC, It was in a "Ca se Discute" debate) Women who fell in love with quite poor guys (so they don't fit the "women only go after the men with big wallet" <<< in the case of these, the society itself plays a big role imo, much more than genetics. When i compare how it is said to be in some asian countries in comparison to France, I can see that.) etc.
Well the problem with the science of sexual attraction is that biology is competeing with enviromental factors, fat women used to be considered attractive because it was a sign of wealth, or another example would be polgyamy its arguable that the fact we see having more than one wife/husband as a bad thing is a social construct.

There have been many societies where polygamy was accetable (native american tribes come to mind) because some of them found they had more women than men, polygamy was a practical solution.

Of course theres alot of biological evidence to suggest that were not suited to polygamy but you get my point.

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I'm pretty immune to most human instincts (I'm completey eccentric)

Thing is, my wires are like this.

I don't notice looks much at all, but if a girl says she plays video games, or watches anime, I get attracted to her.

I know, I just don't see the fundamental perpous of looks, (I'm too logical in that area) Looks in my opinion just seem like a useless addon.
Are you autistic? if not then your probably not immune to most human instincts.

As for looks being useless? looks are bloody important from a biological stand point because their an indication of A fertility and B a good genetic match.

Lets just completely ignore plastic sugery for a moment because it kind of complicates what I'm getting at.

Large breasts are an indication that the woman in question probably produces quite alot of milk and wide hips suggest that they give birth to children fairly easily (something that would of been a big issue before the days of hospitals).

Having a healthy apperance also suggests that your not hiding any gentic disorders (its far from precise but but up until very recently its all we've had) that you will pass on to your child.

So yes, looks are very important.
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Old 2009-10-16, 19:29   Link #1915
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Well the problem with the science of sexual attraction is that biology is competeing with enviromental factors, fat women used to be considered attractive because it was a sign of wealth, or another example would be polgyamy its arguable that the fact we see having more than one wife/husband as a bad thing is a social construct.

There have been many societies where polygamy was accetable (native american tribes come to mind) because some of them found they had more women than men, polygamy was a practical solution.

Of course theres alot of biological evidence to suggest that were not suited to polygamy but you get my point.



Are you autistic? if not then your probably not immune to most human instincts.

As for looks being useless? looks are bloody important from a biological stand point because their an indication of A fertility and B a good genetic match.

Lets just completely ignore plastic sugery for a moment because it kind of complicates what I'm getting at.

Large breasts are an indication that the woman in question probably produces quite alot of milk and wide hips suggest that they give birth to children fairly easily (something that would of been a big issue before the days of hospitals).

Having a healthy apperance also suggests that your not hiding any gentic disorders (its far from precise but but up until very recently its all we've had) that you will pass on to your child.

So yes, looks are very important.
Mkay then ^ _ ^

I still don't see the important's of them (Well I see the biological perpouses, but not the reason in theory to why I would care), but I know you have a right to your own opinion, so I'll respect that ^ _ ^

Also, I'm not autism, (I dun think) I'm a eccentric girly ^ _ ^

I guess I still do not understand human's though...
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Old 2009-10-16, 19:36   Link #1916
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Large breasts are an indication that the woman in question probably produces quite alot of milk
French scientists says that this is not true at all.

One link among many others: http://sante-medecine.commentcamarch...laitement.php3

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So yes, looks are very important.
Given the numbers of people who would then be considered to look bad, but continue to happily reproduce, I think a lot of people don't see it as "very" important. Not as important as many other things. Ledgem wrote a nice post about it.
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French scientists says that this is not true at all.

One link among many others: http://sante-medecine.commentcamarch...laitement.php3



Given the numbers of people who would then be considered to look bad, but continue to happily reproduce, I think a lot of people don't see it as "very" important. Not as important as many other things. Ledgem wrote a nice post about it.
Ummmm, Lolz, thats in French >.<

English linkeys?
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I actually understood a great deal of that, which isn't so bad for someone who knows as little French as myself haha!


That girl I mentioned seems to be biting, and it looks as if another girl I know might like me too!

Crazy how as soon as I turn single this stuff pops up. I haven't even spoken to this girl since about last year, now she talks with me every day and she's always flirting a little haha.

This is an excellent boost of my self-esteem :P
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Ummmm, Lolz, thats in French >.<

English linkeys?
I don't know the sources of english studies. That's why I linked a french site, because this is a common question that is raised often by girls, and because french doctors and scientists often reply to it.

But I found that in 5 sec on google:

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It is the amount of fatty tissue that makes some breasts bigger than others. In other words, the milk producing apparatus is about the same in both small and big breasts. Therefore breast size is not linked to the ability to produce breast milk and breastfeed per se. Even flat-chested women, who don't have practically any fat cells in their breasts, can breastfeed. Besides, you really don't know your final breast size until after your first pregnancy, because the milk-producing cells and milk ducts grow and branch out a lot during the third trimester.
http://www.007b.com/breast_size_breastfeeding.php
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Large breasts are an indication that the woman in question probably produces quite alot of milk and wide hips suggest that they give birth to children fairly easily (something that would of been a big issue before the days of hospitals).
I hate quoting wikipedia but:
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The breasts of primates are flat, yet are able to produce sufficient milk for feeding their young. The breasts of non-lactating human females are filled with fatty tissue and not milk. Thus it has been suggested the rounded female breasts are signals of fertility.
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Ummmm, Lolz, thats in French >.<

English linkeys?
Google translate ftw :P.
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