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View Poll Results: Gundam Reconguista in G - Episode 11 Rating
Perfect 10 2 10.53%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 3 15.79%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 6 31.58%
7 out of 10 : Good 3 15.79%
6 out of 10 : Average 5 26.32%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 0 0%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 0 0%
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Old 2014-12-04, 19:08   Link #1
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Old 2014-12-04, 19:17   Link #2
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Another week, another battle to keep Aida from getting herself killed . I really can't help laughing at this point how everyone keeps trying to keep her from getting into trouble. She just needs the most OP unit of all time to break even. Another good showing by the G-Self in keeping her safe and managing to repel the enemy.

Pretty solid episode. The political situation continues to build and to some degree things are getting to a point where they can't be stopped. Will see how this conflict in space starts to unfold.

Klim having fun as well fighting in a battle without Luin there to bust up his unit .
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Old 2014-12-05, 00:53   Link #3
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The conflict is finally starting between Ameria and the Captial army. Ameria won this time but that was mostly due to having more experience in space. Aida must really want to get shot down doesn't she?

It looks like Luin actually does know that it is Belri piloting the G self.
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Old 2014-12-05, 01:42   Link #4
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I am torn. I am both bothered by how Bellri has yet to truly have a difficult fight, and impressed at just how damn skilled and clever the lad is. He's the most competent Gundam pilot protagonist I've seen since Kira.
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Old 2014-12-05, 04:22   Link #5
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Best part of the episode imo is where Klim Nick is fighting. "Fly like a butterfly, sting like a bee"!
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Old 2014-12-05, 04:47   Link #6
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It looks like Luin actually does know that it is Belri piloting the G self.
And yet, Barara calls him a klutz as his Mack Knife got kicked in the junk!

Meanwhile, Manny-chan is sad that Barara is hanging out with Luin- I mean Mask!
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Old 2014-12-05, 10:16   Link #7
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Best fight so far? Best fight so far.
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Old 2014-12-05, 21:27   Link #8
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I'm actually pretty confused by some of the dialogues in this episode. During the conversation between General and the president, what did the general meant that he has to abide by military commands? First he was against the attack, then directly after he mentioned that he is obligated to abide by military commands , he just acknowledged the order from the president asking him to bring an end to the monopoly. This seems really confusing as to what he wanted and was trying to do.

And I can't believe Kerbes raised his Recksnow's hand when Mask approached. I was like "really?". At this stage I find it really hard to root for any side. On megafauna's side Raraiya and Aida aren't very interesting ,while G-Self is starting to annoy me with its random special attacks . On capital army's side, Mask seems a little undeveloped and bland.
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Probably because Ameria is still based off of its predecessor, America, and thus the President is still the Commander in Chief. He's clearly a hotheaded fool, much like his son, but the order to launch would still be well within his power if he is indeed Commander in Chief.
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Old 2014-12-06, 00:26   Link #10
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Judging by the next episode preview, crap hits the fan. Good news though, we see the fourth backpack in the ED in action.
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Old 2014-12-06, 17:40   Link #11
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Best fight so far? Best fight so far.
Meh. To be honest, all the action has molded into one big blur for me. It's still of considerable and consistent quality but there's just been so much of it that at this point I've just gotten tired of it. And it doesn't help when the action is hampered by characters inexplicably doing stupid things like getting out of the cockpit when you have the advantage (I'd like to think that Mask recognised Bellri which made him act stupid but that's only marginally better). And this was after Klim Nick's debacle with Raraiya followed by Aida being...well...Aida...

On the plus side, I no longer find Bellri annoying anymore. I can not emphasis how important that is.
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Old 2014-12-06, 18:31   Link #12
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I'm actually pretty confused by some of the dialogues in this episode. During the conversation between General and the president, what did the general meant that he has to abide by military commands? First he was against the attack, then directly after he mentioned that he is obligated to abide by military commands , he just acknowledged the order from the president asking him to bring an end to the monopoly. This seems really confusing as to what he wanted and was trying to do.
I'm thinking Guison took advantage of the president's order. He knew it was a lost battle to stop the fleet from being launched so he accepted it and took advantage of the situation to take direct command of the fleet. He ordered the fleet to head to Sankt Porto instead of supporting Klim to the surprise of the captain of the ship so he's obviously trying to find out more about the "threat from space" rather than taking over Capital tower.
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Old 2014-12-06, 18:58   Link #13
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Dear god, Mask is like the most incompetent Char clone ever.......

Just from this episode:
- He captures a hostage, then promptly leaves his MS
- He does not shoot Bell (note the orders no longer specify bell, just Raraiya and the G-Self)
- Almost Zero team coordination aside from the chick
- Gets wrecked in a new MS, one that seems superior in performance to his previous one
- Pretty sure that Mask is NOT helping him, everything points to the contrary



Mask plz........
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I'm thinking Guison took advantage of the president's order. He knew it was a lost battle to stop the fleet from being launched so he accepted it and took advantage of the situation to take direct command of the fleet. He ordered the fleet to head to Sankt Porto instead of supporting Klim to the surprise of the captain of the ship so he's obviously trying to find out more about the "threat from space" rather than taking over Capital tower.
But then you get the next episode title.
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Old 2014-12-07, 01:16   Link #15
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Dear god, Mask is like the most incompetent Char clone ever.......

Just from this episode:
- He captures a hostage, then promptly leaves his MS
- He does not shoot Bell (note the orders no longer specify bell, just Raraiya and the G-Self)
- Almost Zero team coordination aside from the chick
- Gets wrecked in a new MS, one that seems superior in performance to his previous one
- Pretty sure that Mask is NOT helping him, everything points to the contrary

Mask plz........
So far, I agree. But it's not really surprising considering Victory Gundam (which written by Tomino too) also has one of the most incompetent Char-clone ever (I'm looking at you, Cronicle). At least Mask is far more hilarious.
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Dear god, Mask is like the most incompetent Char clone ever.......

Just from this episode:
- He captures a hostage, then promptly leaves his MS
- He does not shoot Bell (note the orders no longer specify bell, just Raraiya and the G-Self)
- Almost Zero team coordination aside from the chick
- Gets wrecked in a new MS, one that seems superior in performance to his previous one
- Pretty sure that Mask is NOT helping him, everything points to the contrary



Mask plz........
You just described most Char clones. Even the actual Char wasn't successful in his encounters with the RX78-2 but made up for it with his other ventures, others just seem to do inane things at any given moment and not really accomplish anything. Mask was given a bad hand this episode (he was suppose to capture the G-Self and Raraiya without damaging either the ship or the MS) something he pointed out himself.

Mask getting out of the Mack Knife may seem stupid at first, but think about it: it was actually kind of a good idea. No matter how strong a MS is, if it doesn't have a pilot, it's as good as useless, and since Mask knew the pilot of the G-Self was Bellri/someone who refused to kill in battle, he knew that by leaving the cockpit when asked to identify himself, Bellri would do the same. Even if Mask failed to physically subdue Bellri, just preventing him from getting back to the G-Self would have been enough.

His mistake was a failure to communicate his plan with his subordinates, who just sort of sat around watching when they should have been securing the G-Self/making sure the Megafauna's other MS didn't try anything.

"Charclone" is a retarded joke/term that should be done away with because carries with it the connotation that every character who fills that trope/archetype IS an exact copy of Char/Quattro, and that only holds true for Full Frontal and for the most part, Zechs. All the other masked aces do their own thing to varying degrees (and the best ones are the least like Char*). "____, HE IS A CHAR" is probably more annoying than "Kamille's a man's name!" at this point.

*And then there's Chronicle... Had so much potential in the beginning, and then Katejina came into his life. Although it seemed like it was that mysterious "Newtype conditioning" towards the end that really did him in.
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You just described most Char clones. Even the actual Char wasn't successful in his encounters with the RX78-2 but made up for it with his other ventures, others just seem to do inane things at any given moment and not really accomplish anything. Mask was given a bad hand this episode (he was suppose to capture the G-Self and Raraiya without damaging either the ship or the MS) something he pointed out himself.

Yeah, but so far every encounter they had Mask had come away looking utterly pathetic, handicaps or not

Mask getting out of the Mack Knife may seem stupid at first, but think about it: it was actually kind of a good idea. No matter how strong a MS is, if it doesn't have a pilot, it's as good as useless, and since Mask knew the pilot of the G-Self was Bellri/someone who refused to kill in battle, he knew that by leaving the cockpit when asked to identify himself, Bellri would do the same. Even if Mask failed to physically subdue Bellri, just preventing him from getting back to the G-Self would have been enough.

He could have just as easily played on Bell's weakness and threatened to kill the Capital Guard guy or destroy the ship

His mistake was a failure to communicate his plan with his subordinates, who just sort of sat around watching when they should have been securing the G-Self/making sure the Megafauna's other MS didn't try anything.

Which is failure teamwork/irresponsible leadership, on my above response I noted they could have threatened the ship right? They could have easily have been used for that. And if the subordinates had doubts about the plans, they could have easily asked too. Everything screams "Were gonna go in and capture the G-self and Raraiya! Lets go!", then they just head off without fully thinking of how they are going to do it

"Charclone" is a retarded joke/term that should be done away with because carries with it the connotation that every character who fills that trope/archetype IS an exact copy of Char/Quattro, and that only holds true for Full Frontal and for the most part, Zechs. All the other masked aces do their own thing to varying degrees (and the best ones are the least like Char*). "____, HE IS A CHAR" is probably more annoying than "Kamille's a man's name!" at this point.

Opinion, and while your point is valid that a true clone would be FF or Zechs, the term is more generically meant to point out any masked villain/antagonist in Gundam for simplicity's sake. And if you are that much against the term, don't use it either

*And then there's Chronicle... Had so much potential in the beginning, and then Katejina came into his life. Although it seemed like it was that mysterious "Newtype conditioning" towards the end that really did him in.

Im in the middle of Victory actually, so far he's a pretty dang good character, being a mostly competent leader, having some morals/code of conduct, providing comic relief, having plot relevance due to his family, etc.

Utterly hating Katejina too lol........
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Threatening the life of his hostage would've ended poorly, I think, and Mask likely knew it. Both times his enemy came close to killing someone, Bellri ended up killing them in return. Cahill actively endangered Aida's life, and was killed. Dellensen nearly killed Klim, and was killed. That Wuxia pilot didn't make an actual attempt at endangering Aida (gun never fired at her, MS never tried to destroy the mobile suit she was on), and was only incapacitated. If Mask actually tried to kill that CG pilot, he probably would've ended up as Bellri's third kill.

Also looking back, both times Bellri killed, it seemed like the G-Self was acting of its own accord. Which might have something to do with it.
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Threatening the life of his hostage would've ended poorly, I think, and Mask likely knew it. Both times his enemy came close to killing someone, Bellri ended up killing them in return. Cahill actively endangered Aida's life, and was killed. Dellensen nearly killed Klim, and was killed. That Wuxia pilot didn't make an actual attempt at endangering Aida (gun never fired at her, MS never tried to destroy the mobile suit she was on), and was only incapacitated. If Mask actually tried to kill that CG pilot, he probably would've ended up as Bellri's third kill.

Also looking back, both times Bellri killed, it seemed like the G-Self was acting of its own accord. Which might have something to do with it.
Perhaps, but at the same time, unlike the previous occurrences, Mask had his full team with him at the time to back him up
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And no way of actively communicating with them during the fight thanks to the Minovsky Particles. Which seems to be the biggest theme in all of Gundam: poor communication kills. I don't deny that Mask has had a poor showing through G-Reco so far, but I can see that some of his actions have justification.
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